[S-V-G] Dragalf Beta Tester, Players 68 posts 19,143 battles Report post #1 Posted August 30, 2015 Ive read the Mogami got swapped with the Myoko regarding Tiers. What bothers me is the fact that the Myoko at T7 shoots farther (16.1km) than the Mogami (15.1) Are there any plans to change that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOFER] stryk33 Players 1,607 posts 9,928 battles Report post #2 Posted August 30, 2015 no, because mogami has 18km range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #3 Posted August 30, 2015 Ive read the Mogami got swapped with the Myoko regarding Tiers. What bothers me is the fact that the Myoko at T7 shoots farther (16.1km) than the Mogami (15.1) Are there any plans to change that? Range is farther then the Myoko when one takes into account captain skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-V-G] Dragalf Beta Tester, Players 68 posts 19,143 battles Report post #4 Posted August 30, 2015 Maybe Im doing something wrong, but mine is fully researched&upgraded, Type 7 Mod 1 shows 13.1 km and Type 7 Mod 2 shows 15.1 km So what am I missing? 155mm guns installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-V-G] Dragalf Beta Tester, Players 68 posts 19,143 battles Report post #5 Posted August 30, 2015 Range is farther then the Myoko when one takes into account captain skills. OK, had the wrong skill. Will give it a try, ty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-V-G] Dragalf Beta Tester, Players 68 posts 19,143 battles Report post #6 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) well ok, doesnt show up in harbor, doesnt show up in battle at mouseover but it works thanks guys. Edited August 30, 2015 by Dragnir666 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #7 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Doesn't that only work with the stock 155mm guns? The 203s don't get the commander range bonus, so you're still outranged by the Myoko. Edited August 30, 2015 by Diminios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-V-G] Dragalf Beta Tester, Players 68 posts 19,143 battles Report post #8 Posted August 30, 2015 Doesn't that only work with the stock 155mm guns? The 203s don't get the commander range bonus, so you're still outranged by the Myoko. Yes. that. Most use 155mm tho because of 15 guns instead of 10 vs the 203mm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[0031] Frank_F_B [0031] Beta Tester 354 posts Report post #9 Posted August 30, 2015 Yes. that. Most use 155mm tho because of 15 guns instead of 10 vs the 203mm. I finally ground my way back to the Mogami and what? Swap? Why? And on that note, question: 155 mm 6 rounds/minute he damage 2600 = 15600 per/minute. 203 mm = 4 rounds per minute @3300 = 13200 damage So why should I upgrade to 203 mm. Your thoughts on that please. I wanted to ask that question in cbt, but was too lazy ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #10 Posted August 30, 2015 Do the Mogami's 155s shoot on a Cleveland-style arc? Or are they more or less as fast as the 203mm projectiles? I finally ground my way back to the Mogami and what? Swap? Why? And on that note, question: 155 mm 6 rounds/minute he damage 2600 = 15600 per/minute. 203 mm = 4 rounds per minute @3300 = 13200 damage So why should I upgrade to 203 mm. Your thoughts on that please. I wanted to ask that question in cbt, but was too lazy ;-)The point of 8" guns is to citadel your targets. That way the shells do their full damage, and with a good 203mm salvo you can take off half the hp of a cruiser. Trouble is hitting the citadels though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[0031] Frank_F_B [0031] Beta Tester 354 posts Report post #11 Posted August 30, 2015 Do the Mogami's 155s shoot on a Cleveland-style arc? Or are they more or less as fast as the 203mm projectiles? The point of 8" guns is to citadel your targets. That way the shells do their full damage, and with a good 203mm salvo you can take off half the hp of a cruiser. Trouble is hitting the citadels though. I know, but I citadel also with my 155 mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #12 Posted August 31, 2015 I know, but I citadel also with my 155 mm U can Citadel with any Gun. The question is the arc. If u are within 5km of any ship, AP is usually a good bet because the armour is flat seeing as your arc is flat. The difference in the 203mm guns and the 155mm guns is that the arc is different, where the 155mm has a higher trajectory making HE more attractive, the 203mm does not, and results in AP being more effective as u can shoot flat on the enemy's armour belt from a farther distance. One must also understand that a high travel arc can also result in AP plunging fire. Meaning in theorie, u can citadel a ship from miles away. I however found that HE is more reliable and results in 6-8k dmg hits per salvo. Do the Mogami's 155s shoot on a Cleveland-style arc? Or are they more or less as fast as the 203mm projectiles? The point of 8" guns is to citadel your targets. That way the shells do their full damage, and with a good 203mm salvo you can take off half the hp of a cruiser. Trouble is hitting the citadels though. Yes, Mogami's 155mm travel time and shell trajectory's are comparable to the Tier 6 USN cruiser Cleveland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapVogele Beta Tester 290 posts 3,590 battles Report post #13 Posted August 31, 2015 Yes, Mogami's 155mm travel time and shell trajectory's are comparable to the Tier 6 USN cruiser Cleveland. Not true, traveltime is faster, and the shell trajectory is alot flatter than the cleveland. Of course, shooting at targets 18km away, you will get 12 second traveltime and a rather high arc, but nowhere near the clevelands arc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eviltwin Players 1 post 1,561 battles Report post #14 Posted August 31, 2015 Shell travel time with Mogami is almost the same as Myoko. Mogami 155mm 10km=5.65s, 15km=10.16s, max 18km=13.77s Myoko 203mm 10km=5.7km, 15km=9.82s, max 16km=10.85s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,369 battles Report post #15 Posted August 31, 2015 Shell travel time with Mogami is almost the same as Myoko. Mogami 155mm 10km=5.65s, 15km=10.16s, max 18km=13.77s Myoko 203mm 10km=5.7km, 15km=9.82s, max 16km=10.85s It seems the 155km has higher initial velocity but losses much more speed as they go. Any expert can say if that is historical? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canuckster Players 150 posts 1,583 battles Report post #16 Posted September 1, 2015 It seems the 155km has higher initial velocity but losses much more speed as they go. Any expert can say if that is historical? Can't say if it's historical or not, but from a physics standpoint it makes sense, lighter shell more easily slowed by wind resistance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirCaitlynJenner ∞ Beta Tester 93 posts 7,098 battles Report post #17 Posted September 2, 2015 lately i have been having issues with turrets getting blown up on mogami, and seeing it's only gonna get worse with next patch i wonder if we're gonna have another atlanta on our hands in that regard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOFER] stryk33 Players 1,607 posts 9,928 battles Report post #18 Posted September 2, 2015 lately i have been having issues with turrets getting blown up on mogami, and seeing it's only gonna get worse with next patch i wonder if we're gonna have another atlanta on our hands in that regard yeah might be so, but playing atlanta you dont get the opportunity of shooting and actually hitting things at 18km Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konteradmiral_Tarpoon Players 11 posts 713 battles Report post #19 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I wonder why they don't just give the Mogami a range upgrade with the 203mm turrets. Max range of 15.x is nothing at that tier. I don't have many games in it yet, but I really hate the 155mm ones. Can't citadel at long range against equal / higher tier enemies, nor burn them fast enough at medium ranges before they get a chance to take out large chunks of my health. Also they get destroyed quite easily already, so I just hope I can upgrade, before the patch makes it even worse. -edit- too late, patch is downloading Edited September 3, 2015 by Konteradmiral_Tarpoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
