Holaadian Beta Tester 65 posts 9,520 battles Report post #1 Posted August 29, 2015 Been fighting against that Tirpitz most of the morning in my Iowa and i have notice few things. Its middle section where citadel is is very very hard to penetrate still no citadel hits on that ship. even though i shot 100 of AP from 23 KM to 3 KM away. and nothing. Is it bugged or is it actually that damn strong. I am shooting whit iowa guns FFS just this morning shot Yamato from 16 Km away and made 2 citadels. So i been starting to shoot Tirpitz under the rear and front turrets and every time i land hits there its mostly 10k -16k dmg and the angle won't matter much. No detonations again but very easy way to kill Tirpitz just takes longer time then getting 5 citadel hits. What ppl think of this ? Is it true or my RNG is just saying " BUY MORE GOLD". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slo_Mo_Shun Beta Tester 362 posts 826 battles Report post #2 Posted August 29, 2015 You may find that it may have slightly beefed up armour for the release. Lets face it, nothing would be worse for WGs release of the ship for people to be on here complaining that their new ship is receiving citadel strikes every salvo. I guess may see it adjusted lated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #3 Posted August 29, 2015 You may find that it may have slightly beefed up armour for the release. Lets face it, nothing would be worse for WGs release of the ship for people to be on here complaining that their new ship is receiving citadel strikes every salvo. I guess may see it adjusted lated. Nope if you watched community conrtibutor videos Tirpitz is a hard nut to crack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #4 Posted August 29, 2015 Tirpitz is weak to carriers, not to other battleships. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pogona2000 Players 1 post 366 battles Report post #5 Posted August 29, 2015 Tirpitz is weak to carriers, not to other battleships. ure right ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beani5003 Beta Tester 218 posts 4,196 battles Report post #6 Posted August 29, 2015 Tirpitz is weak to carriers, not to other battleships. Give her history with air attacks, it would be a good thing to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Interdiction Beta Tester 274 posts 13,524 battles Report post #7 Posted August 29, 2015 He will see this beast off good n proper .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holaadian Beta Tester 65 posts 9,520 battles Report post #8 Posted August 29, 2015 Had a match again whit many many tirpitz and yamato. Yamato sunk by 5 citadel hits, shot like 100 rounds to germans from full broad side noobs to little better angle ppl and guess what 0 citadel hits. 410 mm vs 315 mm hmmmmm yup that paper jap armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #9 Posted August 29, 2015 Had a match again whit many many tirpitz and yamato. Yamato sunk by 5 citadel hits, shot like 100 rounds to germans from full broad side noobs to little better angle ppl and guess what 0 citadel hits. 410 mm vs 315 mm hmmmmm yup that paper jap armor. its all about the citadel placement. Do you know how hard it is to citadel cleveland? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #10 Posted August 29, 2015 its all about the citadel placement. Do you know how hard it is to citadel cleveland? yes, not hard at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holaadian Beta Tester 65 posts 9,520 battles Report post #11 Posted August 29, 2015 Cleveland hard to hit citadels for there's 2 one is rear of smoke stack and other is front of smokestack but totally doable. Tirpitz citadel is right down the smokestack facing foward under the main tower. And unless WG has not but it other way then shooting there should have given me atleast 1 citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #12 Posted August 29, 2015 Cleveland hard to hit citadels for there's 2 one is rear of smoke stack and other is front of smokestack but totally doable. Tirpitz citadel is right down the smokestack facing foward under the main tower. And unless WG has not but it other way then shooting there should have given me atleast 1 citadel. again not every ship's placement is same. This is why ships get high modelling. To fit them into damage modelling. You guys will find a way to do it. In the videos i watched(5-6 times) Tirpitz did receive citadel hit(heavy damage) it isnt impossible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #13 Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Cleveland hard to hit citadels for there's 2 one is rear of smoke stack and other is front of smokestack but totally doable. Tirpitz citadel is right down the smokestack facing foward under the main tower. And unless WG has not but it other way then shooting there should have given me atleast 1 citadel. I remember IChase in his video talking about the belt armor of the Tirpiz being extraordinarily thick. He said it was designed as more of a close-range brawler, thus the heavy belt armor to stand up to flat trajectory fire. Edited August 29, 2015 by GulvkluderGuld Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SSS] malaquey Beta Tester 94 posts 9,644 battles Report post #14 Posted August 30, 2015 The Bismarck class of ships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) were designed in such a way that their citadel was impenetrable by contemporary guns. The interior citadel is angled at 68 degrees so that whilst it is possible to penetrate the main belt with most guns you will never penetrate the citadel. The only exception is VERY long range plunging fire but in terms of dpm you'll sink her faster at closer ranges. Someone made a post all about it if anyone wants to read it. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/29406-bismarck-citadel-unpenetrable-through-belt/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaeger_Bomb_Meister Players 377 posts 8,256 battles Report post #15 Posted August 30, 2015 You may find that it may have slightly beefed up armour for the release. Lets face it, nothing would be worse for WGs release of the ship for people to be on here complaining that their new ship is receiving citadel strikes every salvo. I guess may see it adjusted lated. you mean like the Atago.....lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmurfOpax Players 251 posts 4,105 battles Report post #16 Posted August 30, 2015 working as intended i would say ... when you close range to tirpitz her citadel gets stronger, thanks to her amour layout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #17 Posted August 30, 2015 Tirpitz is weak to carriers, not to other battleships. Was in a match yesterday where a New Mex vs Tirpitz both on full health at 3km closing to 2km engaged each other and the New Mexico won. Isn't the New Mexico tier 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDerp Beta Tester 659 posts Report post #18 Posted August 30, 2015 Was in a match yesterday where a New Mex vs Tirpitz both on full health at 3km closing to 2km engaged each other and the New Mexico won. Isn't the New Mexico tier 6. I'd say that's poor play by the Tirpitz captain. The torpedoes from the Tirpitz at that range should have been the deciding factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #19 Posted August 30, 2015 I'd say that's poor play by the Tirpitz captain. The torpedoes from the Tirpitz at that range should have been the deciding factor. His torpedoes missed, and I think the RNG was not with the Tirpitz. 3 salvos on a broadside to the New Mexico did nothing but a scratch. Not sure if it was bad play or bad RNG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDerp Beta Tester 659 posts Report post #20 Posted August 30, 2015 His torpedoes missed, and I think the RNG was not with the Tirpitz. 3 salvos on a broadside to the New Mexico did nothing but a scratch. Not sure if it was bad play or bad RNG. With World of Warships, it's probably all of the above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #21 Posted August 30, 2015 With World of Warships, it's probably all of the above Yeah . The funny thing also was they were both (islands of Ice map) down in around the Island where the DD should of been. You should see a Tirpitz trying to move around them Islands and I mean the very bottom where no one, not even DD go. So yeah bad play but they were both there so it was equal bad play by both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLUMR] ArtyIsWorseThanCorona Players, Players 321 posts 4,707 battles Report post #22 Posted August 30, 2015 It´s possible to hit her Citadell, hit it with my Tirpitz I think 4 times in 17 matches. Its very hard and you need the perfect angle otherwise you won´t pen it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thonar Beta Tester 626 posts Report post #23 Posted August 30, 2015 1. Tirpitz armor is fine as is... you can do a lot of heavy hits on her, but citadels on vertical is near impossible due to her armor 2. Tirpitz has really weak offensive capabilities that can't really hurt you (unless you make a mistake and even then it doesn't hurt as much as of other BBs)... the guns are only slightly better T6 guns except for the RoF 3. Tirpitz is the weakest T8 BB... it might take time to sink here, but she isn't a big threat either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RN] indycar Alpha Tester 921 posts Report post #24 Posted August 31, 2015 its all about the citadel placement. Do you know how hard it is to citadel cleveland? yes, not hard at all. yup piece of cake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iron_Gekko Beta Tester 497 posts 8,762 battles Report post #25 Posted August 31, 2015 Been fighting against that Tirpitz most of the morning in my Iowa and i have notice few things. Its middle section where citadel is is very very hard to penetrate still no citadel hits on that ship. even though i shot 100 of AP from 23 KM to 3 KM away. and nothing. Is it bugged or is it actually that damn strong. I am shooting whit iowa guns FFS just this morning shot Yamato from 16 Km away and made 2 citadels. So i been starting to shoot Tirpitz under the rear and front turrets and every time i land hits there its mostly 10k -16k dmg and the angle won't matter much. No detonations again but very easy way to kill Tirpitz just takes longer time then getting 5 citadel hits. What ppl think of this ? Is it true or my RNG is just saying " BUY MORE GOLD". Tirpitz is a CA killer. When I play it I normally avoid other BB's except if they are on a lower or the same tier. T9+ can really whoop an un-angeled Tirpiz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites