Kawachi, why is it so hard and can I skip it?

[katie111]

Ok I know i'm new but is there any good tips for how to play this ship or at least skip it? I found cruisers to be pretty good and I got up to T3 easily, then I switched to this thing and now I cant even get with gun range before someone else has taken half my health! Then I try to swerve and the rudder feels like its stuck, is there any way to get decent points with this ship or is it just broken??

[HaachamaShipping]

Try to use the only good points it has. The detection range and the guns that need not too much traverse to point anywhere around you. You can try use islands to make some approach and try get in range. Others may have more experience on this POS, but I found it worth investing the 3k free exp I got from achieving rank 7 or 8 on the Kawachi to Myogi grind.

 

Also, don't get too used to this ship, most ships after it are different. With good speed, long range (not great accuracy though) and thus greater flexibility.

[katie111]

Yes, I'm already keeping the freexp points to do that with for sure! However, I'm still only making a couple of hundred a match so its still going to take about 15 games at this rate, I dont know if I can do that, i'm so frustrated with the game because of this! 

 

Oh and to add insult to injury, a couple of games ago I was put int a match against 2 Tier SIX Clevelands!! Needless to say I didnt last long...

[HaachamaShipping]

Took me 23 battles. It's actually not that much. If need be, just throw in one match inbetween matches with more fun ships, like the Tenryu. Myogi to Kongo is far longer (though the ship is less frustrating, imo).

[Suranis1]

You kind of have to play to its strengths. The top speed is not bad at 20 knots for example, and it turns fairly well though it loses a lot of its speed on turns. It's biggest fault is its terrible top range on the guns, but if you lob AP that can be an advantage as you will be dropping your shots onto deck Armour and that will mean citadel hits while they are hitting your side armour. The guns are reasonably accurate too. Basically use its speed and islands to get within brawling distance.

 

But you are going to have games where stuff just lob shells at you out of your range and you cant do anything, and you just have to grin and hide and try to get within range.

 

Its certainly better than the US Tier 3 battleship which really is terrible.

[Stefan_von_Panzergeist]

If you are struggling with Kawachi, you are gonna commit suicide when you start playing with Myogi. Real fun starts at tier 5 with Kongo

 

If you can' free exp those 2 ships.

[Banelord]

If you are struggling with Kawachi, you are gonna commit suicide when you start playing with Myogi. Real fun starts at tier 5 with Kongo

 

If you can' free exp those 2 ships.

 

I really liked the Myogi and the grind through it, it was pretty smooth and decent

[katie111]

Well i'm pleased to say I got rid of the Kawachi!! 

 

I have managed to get the engine upgrade on the Myogi and love being able to do nearly 30 kts now and the gun range is amazing after being stuck with under 10kms on the last one. 

[HaachamaShipping]

You kind of have to play to its strengths. The top speed is not bad at 20 knots for example, and it turns fairly well though it loses a lot of its speed on turns.

I wouldn't consider 20 knots fast. It's at best passable, but with a ship that is as retarded in its gun range as Kawachi, 20 knots is just lame. There aren't many ships that are slower, except maybe stock USN BBs (by something like 3 knots) and ships that took one to the engine.

[Suranis1]

I said "Not bad" Not "screamingly fast." The T IV IJN Premium BB is only 3 knots faster afair

 

There is an old adage about "working with what you have not what you want" The Kawachi is good enough for its purposes and I had some good games with it in CBT, as opposed to the USN Tier III BB which made me want to slit my wrists on a consistent basis. It's capable of laying down the smack if given the change and that's what you are playing for at that tier. And its far less of a grind than later tiers so crying all over forums about it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference as you don't have to play it again when you are done.

[varis]

Hide behind an island, then charge gloriously. It's a nice ship, the myogi is quite a bit worse!

[PanzyBattalion]

I said "Not bad" Not "screamingly fast." The T IV IJN Premium BB is only 3 knots faster afair

 

There is an old adage about "working with what you have not what you want" The Kawachi is good enough for its purposes and I had some good games with it in CBT, as opposed to the USN Tier III BB which made me want to slit my wrists on a consistent basis. It's capable of laying down the smack if given the change and that's what you are playing for at that tier. And its far less of a grind than later tiers so crying all over forums about it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference as you don't have to play it again when you are done.

 

Though never played in CBT but in the current version, I prefer the SC over the Kawachi, while the Kawachi has some good points, the South Carolina is a much better intro to how BB's play.

[mirage77]

 

Though never played in CBT but in the current version, I prefer the SC over the Kawachi, while the Kawachi has some good points, the South Carolina is a much better intro to how BB's play.

 

I played both in CBT and,for me, the Kawachi has no good points. When i played tier 3 again, in OBT, its was a very easy target in any ship i played. I just keep the distance ( easy in any ship) and shot him to pieces. Now im playing tier 4 and 5 and i see one, i think poor Kawachi.

[Hyenaz]

Kawachi has poor range, so your best bet is to be a support ship. Follow a St.Louis crusier around for instance, you could wreck real hell togeather against tier II and IIIs. 

 

Finding yourself going against a Miyogi? Close in as fast as possible and try to goi in a turning-around match. You have turrents on both sides, he has to turn his. And pray to RNGesus while you are at it.

 

Sure, its a poor ship. But at this low tier, the grind relaly isn't that long if you ask me. I think I mkoved from my Kawachi to my Miyogi in one or two days (was also playing other ships alongside it btw).

[Getzamatic]

I much preferred playing the Kawachi to the Myogi and I still run it out regularly for giggles.  The thing to notice is that it's really stealthy for a battleship so once you've got the gunnery upgrade so it shoots 9.9km you can actually sneak into gun range.  If you equip it with camoflage and slink around in the islands you can even get surprise sucker punches in on cruisers.  It would help if the dispersion wasn't so god-awful, but there's still fun to be had there in lower tier games.

 

Of course, sometime you find yourself at the bottom end of the MM going up against tier 5 ships, which sucks pretty hard...

[dr_slump_]

If you are struggling with Kawachi, you are gonna commit suicide when you start playing with Myogi.

The Myogi with the Hull C upgrade isn't that bad. It's not terribly expensive and you're not wasting any points, since you have to research it anyway in order to get the Kongo.

 

In combination with the gun fire control system upgrade, it then easily out ranges every USN BB up to tier 8. Maybe also invest in the better engine, which gives you a speed of 29 knots, and you won't have problems to keep other BB and even some CA at distance.

 

With its three turrets it's definitely a bit lacking compared to USN BB, but the range is its advantage.

[Dateq]

It has no: speed, range, gun traverse and dpm. I get mostly tier 5 or even tier 6 games where the torpedo bombers are focusing me for some bizarre reason as if they know this thing is a turtle that can not dodge them. It is very torturing to play especially if you are the sole tier 3 in a tier 6 battle and its common.

 

[Comrad_StaIin]

took me about 14 battle I think it's a fun little ship to play besides the horribly MM this thing gets.

[Rich_B]

6 games, 5 wins, unlocked the Myogi. Seemed fairly straightforward... That's with prem account though. The range is the worst thing about it, but it's not bad for a tier 3 BB, I hated the SoCal far more...

 

(mind you, I knew what to expect as I played up to the Amagi in cbt)

[Torque1981]

Fought 3 battles - 3 wins with the kawatchi. I like it better than SC.

Yesterday though something grabed my attention - died pretty quick in my last battle and started another battle with my Omaha. When I came back to port - I found that I won the battle with the kawachi - x3 exp 1680 in the after battle screen but no exp on my ship in port - had only 48 exp.

Happend to anyone before?

[Getzamatic]

I'd say that within it's own tier it works pretty well.  The real problem is the burtal Matchmaking it gets which means you regularly have to go up against tier V and VI opponents.

 

Being top tier is my Kawachi is oine of those rare treats which reminds me why I like WoWs...

[bbihaah]

One word describes this ship. WORTHLESS. ABSOLUTELY [edited]WORTHLESS.

Low damage,

Long reload,

Low accuracy,

No armor,

Slow,

Low maneuverability,

Big,

Short range.

 

 

How the hell is this supposed to be enjoyable for anyone really? ITS A FREAKING PINATA.

[Torque1981]

One word describes this ship. WORTHLESS. ABSOLUTELY [edited]WORTHLESS.

Low damage,

Long reload,

Low accuracy,

No armor,

Slow,

Low maneuverability,

Big,

Short range.

 

 

How the hell is this supposed to be enjoyable for anyone really? ITS A FREAKING PINATA.

 

No it's not it's just a BB and you have to use its strenghts.

[Makoniel]

It was from a QA from Russian server: 

Specialkha, on 20 August 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

- cruisers are the most universal class without extremes (good or bad ones). That's intentional and they want 40% cruisers, 25% BBs and DDs, 10% CVs.

[...]

- Low tier BBs are bad (compared to cruisers) and that's intentional. They want to show the new players that BBs are specialized class while cruisers are for the mass and the avarage player will feel more comfortable in them.

 

So go ahead, skip it. I remember how much I struggled to get rid of this shi...p. And when I saw my stats, those were only ten games. But ten awful games where my only thought was "please make it end"

 

It was way better during alpha and bêta. IDK if it's because of HE buff or some kind of hidden nerf. 

 

Fun will begins at tier 5 for IJN line, and somewhat tier 4 for USN (but not everyone likes the Wyoming, even full)

[Torque1981]

It was from a QA from Russian server: 

 

So go ahead, skip it. I remember how much I struggled to get rid of this shi...p. And when I saw my stats, those were only ten games. But ten awful games where my only thought was "please make it end"

 

It was way better during alpha and bêta. IDK if it's because of HE buff or some kind of hidden nerf. 

 

Fun will begins at tier 5 for IJN line, and somewhat tier 4 for USN (but not everyone likes the Wyoming, even full)

 

The wyoming is a nice change after the god awfull SC. It's an easy grind to elite the wyoming.

Kawachi much better than South Carolina. Don't have the Myogi yet to compare with the Wyoming although I researched it because I need the silver to buy the Cleveland and enter the ranked battles.