Soviet ships - Why before GB/Italy?

[Sir_Armand]

I wonder why WG decided to implement the Soviet tree before GB, Italy, germany or France, nations that had a fleet that fought actual naval actions during WWII. 

 

[FloRead]

Where did you get this news?

 

I am not surprised though. There's a large russian audience for this game, WG will naturally want to cater to them.

[N00b32]

Well, their main market are former SU states. 

[Admiral_noodle]

Where did you get this news?

 

I am not surprised though. There's a large russian audience for this game, WG will naturally want to cater to them.

 

Yes this. Population of Russia > UK + Italy...

[ilhilh]

German Navy is arriving in October, as announced (http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/gc-announcements/).  Are you thinking they will sneak in the Soviet Navy before then? No, I don't think so either...

[Vulpes79]

It has been stated by WG back on the CBT days, however they might have changed their mind.

The reasoning behind it was/ is purely a economic one - They have a large playerbase on the former USSR countries, that enjoy playing national ships. Was the same thing with WoT and probably with WoWp also (never play it much, so know very litte about it)

That is also one of the reasons why soviet navy had, since most of the start of the beta process, premium ships available to them.

However, with the statement of the release of some part of the KM line, perhaps they changed their minds or will launch both lines (even if incomplete ones) together. The german line might just have been announced ahead due to Gamescon was situated on Cologne (I think - was a german city, nonetheless).

 

[Xevious_Red]

German Navy is arriving in October, as announced (http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/gc-announcements/).  Are you thinking they will sneak in the Soviet Navy before then? No, I don't think so either...

 

I remember there being talk of the soviets being released at the same time as the germans, sort of like a germans vs soviets campaign pack with maps appropriate to that area.

 

How much truth there is in that though I don't know

[MXDoener]

It has been stated by WG back on the CBT days, however they might have changed their mind.

The reasoning behind it was/ is purely a economic one - They have a large playerbase on the former USSR countries, that enjoy playing national ships. Was the same thing with WoT and probably with WoWp also (never play it much, so know very litte about it)

That is also one of the reasons why soviet navy had, since most of the start of the beta process, premium ships available to them.

However, with the statement of the release of some part of the KM line, perhaps they changed their minds or will launch both lines (even if incomplete ones) together. The german line might just have been announced ahead due to Gamescon was situated on Cologne (I think - was a german city, nonetheless).

 

 

The german line makes the most sense, because everyone knows famous ships like "Bismarck" and such. At least for me this is a big plus when it comes to decisions, which nation I take. I never knew much about ships, but I always knew Ships like "Bismarck, Graf Spee, Yamato and Hood", therefore I want to play them

 

Also I am german and I really want to check the german tree out, as it is also very educational if you don´t know much stuff about ships^^

[aboch]

While most arguments are reasonable most people forget that for being able to release ships WG first needs prints, info and modelling for them. I'am pretty sure that they have good connections and therefor like in WOT best access to soviet/russian blue prints and details.

[Hawker96]

Germany seems to be getting 1 or 2 lines which is logical in my opinion. Their Cruisers and BBs are historically significant and should be in game soon. Russia however I believe is only being done for money and the shear size/scale of the RU server and playerbase. Logically you would think after the backlash WoWP got for nearly launching without the RAF would have been taken on board. But it seems from the recent Q and A's we wont be getting even a single line of British ships (other than the single Warspite we have now) until some time in 2016. 

 

At one point it was said that RU and UK ships where both in the works and would be released around about the game time, the UK was pushed back until after Germany and then RU and Ger swapped in implementation order. 

 

With things like WoT and WoWP, I can understand Russia being one of the first as they had many real and famous designs like the T-34, T-54 and IS-3 as well as the Yak-3, Yak-9 and IL-2 just as a few examples. But literally the most famous and practically only known Russian warship Aurora is already in game. I just cant envisage how the RU playerbase is dying to get a hold of an RU branch that will likely be 80% paper and non existent designs over some of the most famous ships of the period like HMS Hood, HMS Belfast, HMS Prince of Wales, HMS Ark Royal, HMS Rodney, HMS Formidable and the King Gorge V Battleships to name but a few. 

 

As I said, logicaly I can understand this approch as it works for WoT and WoWP, however for WoWS ships where just not the Russian thing. In my opinion if they do intend to launch an RU branch after the German navy it should release with at least 1 Royal Navy line at the same time. I think WG think people just cry because they want the whole branch before the RU one, however a single branch at the same time as the RU one would seriously be all that is required. 

 

It is however a real kick to the face and to history to see famous ships ignored for the simple estimates and predictions of specific playerbase appeasement with non existent ships. At the very least more British premiums and some more British camos would be greatly appreciated . 

[Sir_Armand]

Now, I don't know how the Russian playerbase feels about it, but in a semi-historical arcade game, I want to see the actual navies that fought much more than I'd want to see my own nation portrayed. Especially if will consist of lend-lease ships from other countries, or pure fantasy designs...

 

[byronicasian]

This again?

[xCaptainObviousx]

As a person with no real knowledge of IRL warships of any nation, I couldn't care less about a certain ship's pedigree. As long as a ship is interesting to play it could come straight out of SerB's [edited]for all I care.

 

The problem with introducing the famous ships is that they most likely won't preform like people expect them to, leading to mass whining and a general increase of toxicity because "WG evil insult X ship"

[Historynerd]

I'm afraid that asking about this topic is kind of like beating the proverbial dead horse... it's happening, period.

 

And, as the poet said:

 

 Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.

 

 

[DtXpwnz]

I wonder why WG decided to implement the Soviet tree before GB, Italy, germany or France, nations that had a fleet that fought actual naval actions during WWII. 

 

 

I think that Russians are like 70% of their players?

[cherry2blost]

On an earlier thread... WG came in and told us that it was honestly a financial decision... they are not hiding the fact... they stated that Former USSR residents are fiercely patriotic and want USSR ships to play... RU server biggest market so they are including RU ships for this reason.. no conspiracy, pure economics...

[mr3awsome]

This again?

 

Its one of those thinks that won't lie down until the French and Italians are both in, I'm afraid. 

 

 

[kiteohatto]

RU version is the main pretty much, then the North America version and then it's us it seems.

Playerbase numbers dictate what we get.

 

It just wouldn't make sense for them to give their smaller versions less attention than their main one, plus...they are Russian.

[Siagor]

A nice thing would be to give us Hood as a premium (battle)Cruiser.

 

Would make waiting for the Royal Navy easier.

[kiteohatto]

A nice thing would be to give us Hood as a premium (battle)Cruiser.

 

Would make waiting for the Royal Navy easier.

 

Would be cool of them to release it at the same time as Bismarck

[Siagor]

 

Would be cool of them to release it at the same time as Bismarck

 

Exactly!

[MarcusFuriusCamillus]

 

Exactly!

 

It should come with it's own special sinking animation!

[BlueMoon51]

RU version is the main pretty much, then the North America version and then it's us it seems.

Playerbase numbers dictate what we get.

 

It just wouldn't make sense for them to give their smaller versions less attention than their main one, plus...they are Russian.

 

I'm pretty sure playerbase wise EU is larger than the NA market and while I disagree with WG in regards to releasing the nations in the order that they are. The biggest issue looking at each server is that the EU doesn't have one dominant nation for inclusion you can make an overwhelming case for both the RN and the KM and a very strong case for Italy and France, indeed while I don't have the tonnage figures to hand I would guess the Dutch navy was larger and more active then the Russian one in WW2. The other servers are pretty much one realistic nation to add

[Aldramelech]

Germany and USSR are being developed side by side, so I would expect news on a Soviet line sooner rather then later.

[Hanszeehock]

 

I think that Russians are like 70% of their players?

 

Really ? I think on the first weekend after release there were more people on the EU server than the RU. Not sure what the figures are now, but my guess is that EU has the potential to be biggest server this time. Why ? Simply because most EU countries have a great naval heritage, Russia does not.