IJN Agano

[Aldramelech]

Just wondering why this one didn't make the Tech tree? 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agano-class_cruiser

 

Maybe she'd make a good premium ship?

[Deathmaw]

I would imagine they are saving her for the future cruiser line split. Personally I would rather she was the tier 5 cruiser instead of Furutaka.

 

But then I also want the Tone class heavy cruisers that are missing lol.

[Andreevson]

The current IJN cruiser line focuses on heavier cruisers after tier 4. I'd expect a second IJN cruiser line with lighter cruisers coming out of the Kuma.

[mr3awsome]

Agano will appear later.

[_x_Acheron_x_]

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[Aldramelech]

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Oh dear, is this the best you can come up with? Not very adult is it? 

[Historynerd]

I guess that eventually it will come.

[LooneyBin]

 

Oh dear, is this the best you can come up with? Not very adult is it?

 

just ignore the obvious whiner/troll, makes it much more enjoyable...

[zFireWyvern]

Maybe at some point in the future the cruiser lies will be divided into light and heavy cruisers

[EsaTuunanen]

But then I also want the Tone class heavy cruisers that are missing lol.

There's equally much or really more missing in US side.

Like Alaska class "large" cruiser, which wasn't any never made paper ship like Zao...

And had 12" guns more powerfull than in Wyoming BB because of lot heavier shell shot at faster speed whith penetration roughly matching 14" guns of New Mexico.

 

US also had Mogami "countering" cruiser with same number of 6" guns.

 

[Historynerd]

There's equally much or really more missing in US side.

Like Alaska class "large" cruiser, which wasn't any never made paper ship like Zao...

And had 12" guns more powerfull than in Wyoming BB because of lot heavier shell shot at faster speed whith penetration roughly matching 14" guns of New Mexico.

 

US also had Mogami "countering" cruiser with same number of 6" guns.

 

 

In my opinion, the Alaska-class sits rather awkwardly between the cruiser and battlecruiser definitions... these 305 mm guns were rather powerful for their caliber, its protection was on a higher scale than anything ever achieved on a heavy cruiser, and its speed was a bit higher than almost all the fast battleship of the era.

 

I'd rather see it classified as a battlecruiser, but if it comes as a cruiser... well, if they manage to balance it out, who am I to complain?

[Luchs1978]

The Alaska was considered a battlecruiser in older naval games.

[Takeda92]

She shouldn't be a premium. Ooyodo would be better premium. because she has 2 triple 155mm guns mounted forward, 4 dual 10cm dual purpose guns, and no torpedoes!

[goodman528]

I'm guessing there will be another Japanese cruiser line including Tone. Also another Japanese CV line including Kaga and Akagi and ending in Shinano.

[Battledragon]

I would say the main reason this did not make the cut is it's main armament is only 6 152mm guns, so inadequate for a cruiser above tier 4, while it's AA and torpedoes would be OP bellow tier 6.  It'd be almost impossible to balence it by the current standards of ships in game.

[xCaptainObviousx]

I would say the main reason this did not make the cut is it's main armament is only 6 152mm guns, so inadequate for a cruiser above tier 4, while it's AA and torpedoes would be OP bellow tier 6.  It'd be almost impossible to balence it by the current standards of ships in game.

 

the AA isn't really that much better than the Yubari's and the torpedoes are a case of "gameplay trumps realism". 6x152 mm guns isn't that weak for tier 5, the Murmansk only have 7 per side and it's considered borderline OP.

 

Give the turrets 22 sec turn time, 10 RpM and 13.5 km range and it'll be fine in the firepower department.

[Unintentional_submarine]

She shouldn't be a premium. Ooyodo would be better premium. because she has 2 triple 155mm guns mounted forward, 4 dual 10cm dual purpose guns, and no torpedoes!

 

I believe WG mentioned something along the lines that these cruisers (Agano, Oyodo and Tone) and the Ise thingies, need to have their own place. Thus obviously they can't very well be in the game as it is. Who would love to have a cruiser whose reason for existence was that of having more scout planes... Obviously something special needs to be in place, something that is worthwhile.

 

I can easily see these cruisers branching off at Kuma, starting with the Sendai (for no better reason than to get her class in) at T4, Oyodo at T5, Agano at T6 and Tone at T7. But that depends on what their planes will give them. I really hope they won't just be ignored. But we will see.

[Comrad_StaIin]

NO ! ->IJN<- NO ! Agano...it would be cool to see the ship in game

 

[Battledragon]

I don't see Agano would make sense as "More spotting planes" as it's special trait since most Japanese cruisers had more than one catapult plane on board.  At one stage the Mogami carried 11 aircraft. What they mostly did not have was facilities to have all of them in the air at one time.

[Arakus]

Maybe it will be a premium ship?

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

I don't see Agano would make sense as "More spotting planes" as it's special trait since most Japanese cruisers had more than one catapult plane on board.  At one stage the Mogami carried 11 aircraft. What they mostly did not have was facilities to have all of them in the air at one time.

 

I knew I forgot about one of the scout plane tenders... The refitted Mogami. She could be T7 in my list and Tone be moved up to T8 (which if she gets something from the planes other than just regular scout fighters would be quite fitting).

[Takeda92]

There's been talks about Agano-kai.. adding an extra 152mm turret and extra secondaries.

[Unintentional_submarine]

There's been talks about Agano-kai.. adding an extra 152mm turret and extra secondaries.

 

Yes, there were apparently plans for such a ship. But it was probably just late war hopes, more than real plans. Anyway, you can find the outline of her here and there.

 

Third from the bottom. The others as far as I understand are Mogami, Tone, Zao (as we know her), Oyodo, Agano, Agano Kai and finally a very special AA cruiser with 24(!!!) 100mm DP guns in 12 double turrets, sort of like an IJN Atlanta without the torps.

 

But even the Agano Kai would be pretty weak with 8 150mm guns. But I suppose they could get the theoretical 10 rpm to make up for it.

[Takeda92]

 

Yes, there were apparently plans for such a ship. But it was probably just late war hopes, more than real plans. Anyway, you can find the outline of her here and there.

 

Third from the bottom. The others as far as I understand are Mogami, Tone, Zao (as we know her), Oyodo, Agano, Agano Kai and finally a very special AA cruiser with 24(!!!) 100mm DP guns in 12 double turrets, sort of like an IJN Atlanta without the torps.

 

But even the Agano Kai would be pretty weak with 8 150mm guns. But I suppose they could get the theoretical 10 rpm to make up for it.

 

yeah.. that 24 10cm guns cruiser would be so awesome in this game.. the true flamethrowership!

[Unintentional_submarine]

 

yeah.. that 24 10cm guns cruiser would be so awesome in this game.. the true flamethrowership!

 

Imagine the AA power when she pops Defensive Fire...