what changes would i like to see to this game? alpha tester opinion

[Flavio1997]

 

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Guys I'm  so sad...why would you ask? Because wg keep earing to that idiot blob of noobs ( in his real term, newbies) that after 10 battles think they know everything  of the game and can start shouting  sentences everywhere. ...they are making this game too retard proof.

But is better than i present myself: I'm  an alpha tester since January  ( played both the beta weekends ) I had almost 800 battles in alpha, where i reached the yamato and the tier 9 of every  other available class and an overall 53% of win rate. During the cbt i played 1600 games, and i reached all the tier 10 but but cvs of both lines ( tier 9, where i had 10% more avg damage than sharana) and the ijn dds to tier 6, I ended up with 58% of win rate.

Now in obt i have all the lines to at least tier 5 and overall  wr of 61% ( it was 63 until 2 days ago..sigh)

Then, going back on topic: when i started playing  in alpha the game was a real challenge, and after good volleys and torpedo runs you where happy and it was a really satisfactorily. Right now, even if i still  love this game and on some degree wg is pointing in a good direction ( should i say sail?) it is not  as much fun to play as before, why? Because  i don't  feel that I'm  sailing in huge battleship or cruisers that weight thousands  of tons and because the game is becaming more a point and click shooter.

~End of the rant~

Now i would start my suggestion for wg: go back to the old days, with a bit of tweaking. I have better  to  explain  what I'm  saying, lets analyse  what changes i would  like to see:

CV ( with 4.0-4.1 lodout in mind)

-Nerf the  planes survivability  of 15-20%, i think that should be enough ( maybe 20 is too much) because in my opinion planes should go down a bit faster. I'm  sorry for the low tier, but we can't  buff low tier aa, we tried it ( someting like +40% aa power buff ) in early cbt, and it ended that low tier cvs hadn't  planes left after just 8-9 minutes and lost half of their planes before the drop, that is just too punishing for a ship with 30 planes

-buff planes speed of every plane of 15-20%, to balance the hp nerf, so good player with blitz action will have less losses tha slower and less skilled ones

-Scale torps damage, I'm  sorry guys, but i can't  admit that tbs  from tier 4 to 10 have the same torps damage, and they improve just in speed and keep up with aa in hp, i would like to see something like

 

Tier 4    4000-4500 damage/torp

 

Tier 5     same damage as tier 4, but with big improvement  in speed and hp

 

Tier 6    6000 damage/torp small improvement from tier 5 planes in terms of speed

 

Tier 7 like  tier  5 same damage as tier 6, but with big improvement  in speed and hp

 

Tier 8 8000 dmg/t like tier 6 small improvement from tier 7 planes in terms of speed

 

Tier 9 ( i think you get it) same damage as tier 8, but with big improvement  in speed and hp

 

Tier 10     10.000 d/t small improvement in everything  from tier 9 

 

-lower the flooding % from the current 50-60% to a more reasonable  20-25%

 

- having done that above, give us back the old ijn spread, so that skilled player can have a big edge over not so good player, but thanks to the scale damage a oneshot should be not possible anymore even for unicums

 

- buff Db damage, scaling it like Tbs, from 4k to 10k, and give U.S. planes the ap bombs 

 

- buff Db accuracy, especially with manual drop, like in alpha ( when i did manage to hit with 18 bombs with 21 dbs in one run to a non moving Yamato), it's  ridiculus that with manual drop i can't  hit a non moving and non armed Midway ( tried in training room) with more than half of dbs.

 

- give planes a proper turning radius, like you did with dbs ( just with them..I  don't  know why) in alpha. Get rid of those ufo like manouvers.

 

-give reward for shooting down planes, so that fighters lodout are a viable option

 

 

 

Thats should be all of cvs, in my opinion this would cut the damage output of cvs by about 20%, should give them more skill ceiling and more balance between them and other classes.

 

 

 

Next class BATTLESHIP 

 

- give them 15-20% more accuracy

 

- go back to alpha's rudder shift time: nerf them giving at least 50% slower rudder: the bbs should have between 24 and 36 secs shift time (so 12 and 18 secs from neutral to full port-starboard), not 14-22 like now, you should plan everything  ahead, you should feel the fact that you are driving a 50-60k thousands tonnes monster, in alpha ships like yamato and amagi had respectively 32 and 33.5  shift time, we would get  rid of those speedboat-like turning. You shouldn't  be able to  avoid torps if you have spotted them by yourself, that would  be a huge buff for dds and a more realistic  fact ( even if is an arcade game) and an advantage to aware players. Cvs should not be a big problem, if we take into account the changes to cvs i posted above. ( you should also work as a fleet)

 

- give us back  old shells fly time, where fuso's  shells at max range (21 kms) nedded 22.5 secs to land, not 16 as now, this, coupled  with the rudder nerf and accuracy buff, would give the real skill both for who fire long range, in leading targhets, and also for who dodge the incoming fire, because you have to watch  out  and start manouvering asap when you see the shells incoming.

 

- get back to old cbt 2ndaries accuracy ( the alpha ratio was too op imho), going close to a bb should be something scaring for everyone

 

 

 

Thats it, with that changes you  should feel the power of this mighty  monsters, but you should be very aware of your sorrounding and that would help  a lot the poor dds,  remeber  that as wg stated, bbs are now for everyone. 

 

 

 

Next: CRUISER

 

-  change the aa barrage ability: it  should last, like in cbt, 60 seconds and not 40 as now, 1 minute  wait time is a long  enough time span that usually a cv player will  give up targheting you, but on the other hand should be an ability that need 5-10 seconds to activate, so that if you are tunnel visioning and don't  see enemy planes incoming, you can't  ruin their drop with pressing a single button, also there you should be able to plan a bit ahead.

 

- we need to see a proper difference in power between 150 and 203 mms guns, both in penetration, power and flight  time, so that levelling  up has got a real sense, like we have with bbs guns

 

- nerf he fire chance of 30-40%

 

-give the sonar a proper usefulness, it should be a real choise between aa ability and sonar, the proximity  spot should go from 3.5 to 5 kms, and the torps spotting distance to 2.5 to 3 kms.

 

- nerf rudder shift time a bit ( 2 for CL-3 secs CA)

 

 

 

Last, but not the least, those little buggers that need a lot of love: DDS

 

- nerf the rudder shift time of 1 secs ( from 3 to 4 secs avg) to all the dds, like now it seems to play with motorboat

 

- buff torpedo reload time of hight tier (8+) of 10-15%

 

- nerf reload time of low tier (2-5)torps reload time of 10-20%

 

- the smoke screen should work for 30/40 secs for ijn-us respectively and last for other 60-100 secs depending on the tier

 

- buff smoke screen reload time form 160-240 secs ( premium/normal) to 120/180

 

- torpedo spotting range should be caliber based, not speed based, that is right  now BS. It should be something like 1 kms for 450mm torps, 1.5 for 533 and 1.8 for 610, so that having faster torps give you a real advantage other than less lead over the targhet. This will also help low tier player to avoid torps ( right now 450 mms torps are spotted at 0.7 kms)

 

- buff dds spottability from the air of 20% 

 

This should give a bigger chance to dds to survive, and more damage done thanks to the rudder nerf of bbs.

 

 

 

 

 

For all the classes :

 

-nerf full stop time required,  see a bbs that can go from 30 knots to 10 in just 3-4 secs is ridiculous 

 

- nerf turning radius of 

 

5% for dds an cvs

 

10% for bbs

 

15-20% for cl-ca respectively

 

 

 

So thats are my thoughts ...what do you think guys? 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry again for this wall, but i would talk about everything 

 

 

 

 

[x00Starki]

Like that, but I reached my + quota.

[Ishiro32]

Nice one. I would really love for this game to be more oriented around dedicated players like you suggest, but sadly we know how new players are underperforming and how hard it is to switch yourself to the correct mindset. IJN CVs on release I think had around 10-15k average score. I have seen people with lower than 7k average damage per game in them.
While I do hate changes which has happened to IJN carriers during that time (no one holds my hand when I have abysmal scores in any other class), there had to be something done to not scare people away from this class. 

Have a +1, but I don't believe we will see those changes, but I do think WG needs to focus more on rewarding the skilled players. 

 

I also want to mention that I agree with your vision of BBs. When I was playing them in CBT I loved that aspect of them, slow behemoths forcing their way through the map. I think game should compliment that feeling a bit more. It would also make even bigger distinction between Battleships and Battlecrusiers like Kongo.

 

 

[Flavio1997]

Nice one. I would really love for this game to be more oriented around dedicated players like you suggest, but sadly we know how new players are underperforming and how hard it is to switch yourself to the correct mindset. IJN CVs on release I think had around 10-15k average score. I have seen people with lower than 7k average damage per game in them.

While I do hate changes which has happened to IJN carriers during that time (no one holds my hand when I have abysmal scores in any other class), there had to be something done to not scare people away from this class. 

 

Have a +1, but I don't believe we will see those changes, but I do think WG needs to focus more on rewarding the skilled players. 

The main problem is that i still  see people with 8k of avg damage on tier 4 cvs, both langley  and hosho. In my opinion the other fact is that a game with low skill ceiling  will have a short life, while with my suggestions  you will always  keep learning and improving yourself. The main problem are the avg player of my age and younger ( but sadly also older) that don't  want to learn anithing. I can't  understand that, they say to me: i play for fun...how could  you  have fun if you suck so hard? What's  the  point of being useless?

[mtm78]

- Activation time for AAA ability? No thanks, it's hard enough already to time the ability at the exact right time when a carrier can no longer abort his attack.

 

- Buff dds spottability from the air of 20%  -> I hope you mean NERF and not buff, I don't want DD's spotted sooner than they are already.

 

The rest I don't have any counter arguments against, especially since your changes to mobility for instance are seemingly all interlocked. 

 

[Flavio1997]

- Buff dds spottability from the air of 20%  -> I hope you mean NERF and not buff, I don't want DD's spotted sooner than they are already.

 

The rest I don't have any counter arguments against, especially since your changes to mobility for instance are seemingly all interlocked. 

 

Buff dd spottability means that they should be more invisible from the air, this is a buff ( for ex, a reload time buff means decrease the reload time, is the same stuff here).

About the aa skill, you know that if you activate the aa ability when the cv can't  abort anymore, you are not going to change the spread of the planes right? If cv drop with aa barrage spread is only his fault, that don't  payed attention to his spread

[mtm78]

Buff dd spottability means that they should be more invisible from the air, this is a buff ( for ex, a reload time buff means decrease the reload time, is the same stuff here).

About the aa skill, you know that if you activate the aa ability when the cv can't  abort anymore, you are not going to change the spread of the planes right? If cv drop with aa barrage spread is only his fault, that don't  payed attention to his spread

 

I usually try to do it just before the carrier issues the final attack order, that is what I meant. Or sooner if he has to pass through my aura to get to optimal launch position. But in both situations, planes are too fast especially on higher tiers to have a long activation time, unless carriers would have their circle increased again meaning the flightpath of planes would be more predictable.

[Staarfury]

Thats should be all of cvs, in my opinion this would cut the damage output of cvs by about 20%, should give them more skill ceiling and more balance between them and other classes.

 

 

In my opinion, skill ceiling for carriers is already too high compared to everything other class. That's why you only see carrier players reaching 80% winrate.

[Iron_Gekko]

 

In my opinion, skill ceiling for carriers is already too high compared to everything other class. That's why you only see carrier players reaching 80% winrate.

 

This, because of the versatile options the carrier has compared to other ships, you can actually get very, very good. CVs at level 9-10 tier are extreamly dangerous because of their experience rather then their load-out. (cept midway, that thing is just crazy)

 

midtier CV's are crazy (strike option) because players normally don't know how to handle them, ditto it becomes a very easy ship to get kills with, they have the same damage output  as high-tiers the high tiers but face a fraction of the resistance.

[Ishiro32]

 

In my opinion, skill ceiling for carriers is already too high compared to everything other class. That's why you only see carrier players reaching 80% winrate.

 

Skill celling/floor has nothing to do with performance. Fact that a lot of people have those high score means that carrier skill floor is very low.

In fact people with no carrier experience, but with knowladge how to control carriers (youtube videos) and a bit of knowledge regarding ship stats and roles can still get good scores on their first games in this class.

40-50k Langley or 50-70k Hosho average per game is the results people like that have.

 

Skill floor for carriers is low. That is just a fact and WG made them that way, because of people underperformance in them. The worst part is that most often thing said about low tiers is that they are boring. There is a lot of downtime, the requirments from player are low. To add to the damage most people on those tiers do not know how to counterplay, so games are even more boring.

 

[Staarfury]

 

Skill celling/floor has nothing to do with performance. Fact that a lot of people have those high score means that carrier skill floor is very low.

In fact people with no carrier experience, but with knowladge how to control carriers (youtube videos) and a bit of knowledge regarding ship stats and roles can still get good scores on their first games in this class.

40-50k Langley or 50-70k Hosho average per game is the results people like that have.

 

Skill floor for carriers is low. That is just a fact and WG made them that way, because of people underperformance in them. The worst part is that most often thing said about low tiers is that they are boring. There is a lot of downtime, the requirments from player are low. To add to the damage most people on those tiers do not know how to counterplay, so games are even more boring.

 

 

Erm... I say skill ceiling on CVs is already too high and you counter (?) by saying the skill floor is low? What does one have to do with the other?

 

Fact is: CVs are the one class where you find (good) players consistently reaching 70+ winrate. That's a clear indication that carriers have a very high skill ceiling already, otherwise the very skilled wouldn't perform so much better than the average players. Even the best BB player in the world will only move as fast as his ship allows and hit as well as RNG allows. Carriers have both limitations reduced significantly. Their planes move three times as fast as the quickest ships, and (in the case of torp bombers) have no RNG in their aim. All that remains is how well the player executes his manual torp drops.

[Mister_Greek]

 

Erm... I say skill ceiling on CVs is already too high and you counter (?) by saying the skill floor is low? What does one have to do with the other?

 

Fact is: CVs are the one class where you find (good) players consistently reaching 70+ winrate. That's a clear indication that carriers have a very high skill ceiling already, otherwise the very skilled wouldn't perform so much better than the average players. Even the best BB player in the world will only move as fast as his ship allows and hit as well as RNG allows. Carriers have both limitations reduced significantly. Their planes move three times as fast as the quickest ships, and (in the case of torp bombers) have no RNG in their aim. All that remains is how well the player executes his manual torp drops.

 

By saying that the Skill ceiling is high,you mean that its pretty difficult to do well in this class which is wrong as Ishiro already stated.Just because a minority has excellent stats in CV,doesnt mean that skill ceilling is high.

 

If you take a look at the stats of the CV players you will see that a great portion of them has quite decent stats.Only a small portion of CV players has more than 2k average exp and its mainly because they feasted on newcomers at the start,having the upper hand because they were more experienced,a fact that remains up untill  the top tiers.

 

Thats not happening with DD's,CA's or BB's because they have higher skill ceiling,the US DD especially....

[Staarfury]

 

By saying that the Skill ceiling is high,you mean that its pretty difficult to do well in this class which is wrong as Ishiro already stated.Just because a minority has excellent stats in CV,doesnt mean that skill ceilling is high.

 

If you take a look at the stats of the CV players you will see that a great portion of them has quite decent stats.Only a small portion of CV players has more than 2k average exp and its mainly because they feasted on newcomers at the start,having the upper hand because they were more experienced,a fact that remains up untill  the top tiers.

 

Thats not happening with DD's,CA's or BB's because they have higher skill ceiling,the US DD especially....

 

But that's not what skill ceiling means:

 

A ship with a high skill ceiling requires a lot of skill to maximize its potential. This means that your skill will make a lot of difference between what an average player will achieve and what a good player will achieve.

A ship with a low skill ceiling requires very little skill to maximize its potential. This means that there's only so much a good player can do to perform better than Joe Average.

 

Conversely a high skill floor means a ship that will perform rather adequate no matter if you put a toddler in front of the screen, while a low skill ceiling ship will perform very poorly in the hands of a bad player.

 

Battleships have low ceiling due to limited mobility and high RNG and high floor due to having large amounts of hitpoints and guns that will hurt whenever they happen to land on target.

Carriers are exactly the opposite, in bad hands they'll hit half a torpedo every 4-5 minutes, in good hands they'll take out priority targets from whereever their help is needed most due to their unique ability to bring a lot of firepower to bear on almost every part of the map without interference by bad luck.

[Woel]

Battleships have low ceiling due to limited mobility and high RNG and high floor due to having large amounts of hitpoints and guns that will hurt whenever they happen to land on target.

I disagree on that. BBs might have a somewhat higher skill floor than some other ships because it allows you to make more mistakes before you die, if you move like a bot, exposing your broadside. But they're also larger, slower and slower turning targets primarily follower by a horde of torpedoes. 

And that's also why they have fairly high skill ceiling too. Due to your sluggishness it's harder (slash impossible) to avoid a fair number of torpedo planes, having to pay more attention to CA/DD torps while not exposing your broadside to other BBs. Generally you have to think about a minute ahead due to slow reload, slow turrets and potentially RNG. You have to know where to hit for citadels, how to lead on extremely long range, when to use your repair kit/regen. You're almost pretty much permanently spotted, so it's not like you can easily get out of the fight after receiving a hard hit.

[praetor_jax]

 

 

- go back to alpha's rudder shift time: nerf them giving at least 50% slower rudder: the bbs should have between 24 and 36 secs shift time (so 12 and 18 secs from neutral to full port-starboard), not 14-22 like now, you should plan everything  ahead, you should feel the fact that you are driving a 50-60k thousands tonnes monster, in alpha ships like yamato and amagi had respectively 32 and 33.5  shift time, we would get  rid of those speedboat-like turning. You shouldn't  be able to  avoid torps if you have spotted them by yourself, that would  be a huge buff for dds and a more realistic  fact ( even if is an arcade game) and an advantage to aware players. Cvs should not be a big problem, if we take into account the changes to cvs i posted above. ( you should also work as a fleet)

 

 

This whole part makes it impossible for a BB to fight a destroyer in a 1on1 scenario. You cant completely rebalance classes to only work together with other classes - while this of course enhances teamwork (which would be a good thing, but then teamwork is never gonna happen) it is in no way a good solution to make certain classes incapable of winning a 1on1.

[Flavio1997]

This whole part makes it impossible for a BB to fight a destroyer in a 1on1 scenario. You cant completely rebalance classes to only work together with other classes - while this of course enhances teamwork (which would be a good thing, but then teamwork is never gonna happen) it is in no way a good solution to make certain classes incapable of winning a 1on1.

Trust me, we where capable of doing this without too many problems: 2ndaries where  better ( suicide dd runs where way nore hp expensive for dds)  and if you didn't  sailing in a straight line, you would avoid long range torps. In alpha i had won a 1vs7 engagements with a Yamato, and 3 of those enemies where dds.

Even if you did keep circling  you would avoid even tight spread, maybe  being hitted from just 1-2 torps

[praetor_jax]

Trust me, we where capable of doing this without too many problems: 2ndaries where  better ( suicide dd runs where way nore hp expensive for dds)  and if you didn't  sailing in a straight line, you would avoid long range torps. In alpha i had won a 1vs7 engagements with a Yamato, and 3 of those enemies where dds.

Even if you did keep circling  you would avoid even tight spread, maybe  being hitted from just 1-2 torps

 

Its not that avioding to get torped is the problem - but if you have no way to get close enough to that destroyer to actually spot him it doesnt really matter how many torps you evade.

You need the DD to make a mistake to succeed no matter if you do well or not. But then this is how it is on the lower tiers and i ve never been higher than tier 6.

 

Edit: Actually i remeber what i wanted to ask someone with more knowledge - do secondaries fire a enemies you actually cant see? Somebody kept telling but i couldnt really find it anywhere...

[Flavio1997]

Yes, but you are taking in account 1vs 1 situation, where dds should kill bbs, as they are your hardcounter. On high tier you have a lot of planes flying  around, even bbs can launch planes that stay in the air for 6 minutes,  and  dd need 90 to 150 secs to reload, so even in 1on1 situation he can't  trow at you more than 4 salvoes of torps ( mea ing around 40 torps) as it will take 5-6 mintues, only on you

[Ra97oR]

If only WG cares about catering to competitive players at this stage. While I do agree with pretty much every point you said, the chances of WG doing something about it any time soon is pretty slim.

[praetor_jax]

Yes, but you are taking in account 1vs 1 situation, where dds should kill bbs, as they are your hardcounter. On high tier you have a lot of planes flying  around, even bbs can launch planes that stay in the air for 6 minutes,  and  dd need 90 to 150 secs to reload, so even in 1on1 situation he can't  trow at you more than 4 salvoes of torps ( mea ing around 40 torps) as it will take 5-6 mintues, only on you

 

So when a destroyer on one team and a battleship on the other team are the only ships left it is supposed to be an autowin for the destroyer?

I really get your point but the whole problem is that teamwork doesnt happen in this game and if you cant fight an entire shipclass by yourself  that is just wrong.

[Flavio1997]

 

So when a destroyer on one team and a battleship on the other team are the only ships left it is supposed to be an autowin for the destroyer?

I really get your point but the whole problem is that teamwork doesnt happen in this game and if you cant fight an entire shipclass by yourself  that is just wrong.

Well, it would be not a auto win battle for the dds, but should  be an hard win for bbs. If we talk about high tier 8+, a 1 vs 1 engagements bbs vs dd  is not that onesided for the dds as it might seem. Let's  explain: to not be detected by the bbs ( that is not using the scout plane) you have to be at about 8 kilometers, at that distance the torps needs 45-50 secs to arrive to the targhet ( you spot them at 2kms and you have 12 secs of reaction time,  red it from the wg and from spotting mechanichs in newcomers forum). It means that the bb should sail in a straight line  for all that time, and you have to be idiot enough  to sail in a straight  line when you know that you  are in a bb facing an enemy dds, so if you manouver and the dds is using tight spreads, you will never be hit by a single torps, if he use large spread, you will be hit by 1 torps every 90-120 secs for a damage of 14-16k, it doesn't  seem to be efficient to be an hardcounter, isn't  it?

And if the bbs use the scout plane? Even worst, it fly at 6-7kms from you,  it means that to be in a safe distance you  have to be at 12 kms ( assuming 3.5-4kms air detectability for dds) that means  about 70-80 seconds time frame between torps in the water and hipotetical hit, hoping that ofc that little  bugger in the air don't  fly over your torps when they get closer...so, all in all, even in 1 vs 1 engagements,  bbs are not that much harmless against dds, even if they are bb's  hardcounter 

Edit to your edit: no, they don't  fire if enemies  are covered by land or even half covered , but they do if there is an allied ship between you and them ( i sunk a poor allied dd in that way)

[BOMBHEAD]

Some great points there, My only issue is the spped diffrence bettween classes. Higher tier cruisers are as quick as the destroyers so if spotted the poor little DD aint got a hope. Most now arn't woth the effort. .

[Saipan_2501]

I only really have 1 or 2 probs  in game at the minute,  but ya do raise some good points. 

 

1 - Nerf this manual drop crap on the torp bombers, have a minimum range that they can drop at. its just totally unbelievable that whilst piloting my bb no further than around 200 mtrs ( guessed ) from a cliff side, i get targetted and broadsided  from the cliffside by 4 torps from a flight of aircraft - total tosh is that one for sure. set a minimum distance for the torps to be dropped at, 1.5 k approx seems pretty reasonable

 

2 - Nerf the spamming and fire crap from the shells, end of the day i fire a braodside from my BB at an atlanta, had 5 shells hit him for about 6k damage ( ap) when in reality i would have blown it out the water, he is spamming he shells like fk at me and take half my life before i kill him with my secondary's, really frikking annoying is the h.e spamming and firecontrol

 

thats all for the minute, but may think of some other stuff in a bit

 

[Ishiro32]

 

But that's not what skill ceiling means:

 

A ship with a high skill ceiling requires a lot of skill to maximize its potential. This means that your skill will make a lot of difference between what an average player will achieve and what a good player will achieve.

A ship with a low skill ceiling requires very little skill to maximize its potential. This means that there's only so much a good player can do to perform better than Joe Average.

 

Conversely a high skill floor means a ship that will perform rather adequate no matter if you put a toddler in front of the screen, while a low skill ceiling ship will perform very poorly in the hands of a bad player.

 

Battleships have low ceiling due to limited mobility and high RNG and high floor due to having large amounts of hitpoints and guns that will hurt whenever they happen to land on target.

Carriers are exactly the opposite, in bad hands they'll hit half a torpedo every 4-5 minutes, in good hands they'll take out priority targets from whereever their help is needed most due to their unique ability to bring a lot of firepower to bear on almost every part of the map without interference by bad luck.

 

Sorry. I was very tired when writing that post.

 

Anyway I don't really want to go into details, but I do want for carriers to fail more often. I want them to die more often on the battlefield or mess thing up more often.

 

Carriers are very forgiving. The only not forgiving part is the CV sniping, which should stop being dominant strategy for V-8 tiers with the 0.4.1. The difference between good and great player is not as big as it should be in my opinion.

 

IJN tier X is not easy, you can't really talk with people on chat while playing it. It does require skill. Thing is... I just want more. More difficult, more powerfull, much less forgiving carriers, so I can see my mistakes clearly, so I can improve with each game, so I can never be satisfied with my performance.

 

Call me greedy as I want even more power.

Call me masochist as I want to keep failing at my favourite class.

 

That's why for me... it's just low skill celling. Or maybe I just want more risk and excitment.

 

[Flavio1997]

+1