This is hopeless

[Always_ChatBanned]

Winning in World of Warships is as rare as seeing a Wolverine in real life when you just get headless donkeys on your team all the time. Like, what else can I do to ensure my team wins? 

 

 

I've been having so many battles like these, where I do a ton of work but the game still ends in a defeat or a draw... Had a game yesterday where I did 175k dmg and 3 kills in my New Mexico and the game still ended in a draw - Derp.

 

And then people go like "dude your winrate sucks so you suck too, shut up noob you dont know anything and blah blah blah" bs crap.

 

What else can I do to win in world of warships? It's always like this, always.

[Iron_Gekko]

Hey Buddy,

 

What is you're top tiership?

 

At work right now so I don't have access to TS3, but if you're game then I'll be happy to send you our channel and you can play with our divisions. You might not get more win-rates straight away but I can promise you that the team-play edge you closer.

[xCaptainObviousx]

I do feel for you, we all get these streaks where nothing seems to work. Maybe you should take a small break and try again next week?

[CroPanzer]

It seems you're just thinking about dealing dmg and not about winning.

You can deal dmg all day and still lose, bad teams need leadership and support, granted, they won't always welcome it, but it works sometimes.

Positioning is everything in Bbs, not because of dmg potential but for controling most of the map.

[Sub_Eleven]

It seems alot of the muppets from tier 5 have arrived at tier 6 and 7. Which is annoying because at tier 7/8 match making likes to dump tier 9 and 10's in the enemy team.

[Iron_Gekko]

It seems alot of the muppets from tier 5 have arrived at tier 6 and 7. Which is annoying because at tier 7/8 match making likes to dump tier 9 and 10's in the enemy team.

 

Sounds like the dinnerbell, but it is also part of the learning curve and around the time you get the mass threads where everything is suddenly OP.

 

Tier VII plus normally starts putting more focus into actual team-play as the ships start to gain abilities that massively improve the overall team if there is any cohesion, if you're still Soloing at tier VII then expect the difficult level to skyrocket. As CroPanzer pointed out, it doesn't matter if you sink most of the enemy team if it's 1 or 2 divisions doing the actually strategic work.

[principat121]

Winning in World of Warships is as rare as seeing a Wolverine in real life when you just get headless donkeys on your team all the time. Like, what else can I do to ensure my team wins?

 

So rare, that you won almost 50% of your battles?

 

 

[Always_ChatBanned]

 

So rare, that you won almost 50% of your battles?

 

 

 

I dont think 50% is good enough, like I should've won way more battles if you look at my personal scores in most defeats.

[principat121]

If I look at your service file I found that you are just above average. So, ok, maybe 50% isn't enough, but more that 51% shouldn't it be...

 

general

 

 

BB

 

 

CV

 

 

CA/CL

 

 

DD

 

 

 

 

Don't get me worng. You are, by far, not a bad player. But you are also not good (or superior) enough to claim much more wins and/or higher winrates.

[22cm]

It seems you're just thinking about dealing dmg and not about winning.

You can deal dmg all day and still lose, bad teams need leadership and support, granted, they won't always welcome it, but it works sometimes.

Positioning is everything in Bbs, not because of dmg potential but for controling most of the map.

 

True, winning sometimes means you get in the enemy cap with a few seconds before enemy gets into your cap, even if you have zero damage so far.

[Always_ChatBanned]

If I look at your service file I found that you are just above average. So, ok, maybe 50% isn't enough, but more that 51% shouldn't it be...

 

general

 

 

BB

 

 

CV

 

 

CA/CL

 

 

DD

 

 

 

 

Don't get me worng. You are, by far, not a bad player. But you are also not good (or superior) enough to claim much more wins and/or higher winrates.

Well, that's true, those are my combined stats from the beginning (mind that I'm not an Alpha or CB testers, started playing in OB), and I was pretty [edited]shitty in the beginning during my first ~300 battles, but during my last ~50-100 battles I've improved a lot and am now able to consistantly pull off battles like those I posted in my OP with my of my ships. Except for in DDs, I'm a horrible DD captain.

[Figment]

From the looks of it you were playing a domination match.

 

Kills and damage are secondary in those matches. It's all about control of points, kills do help in that respect, but if you wait too long with being aggressive, the enemy team gets too much control over the zones and you can easily lose the match even if you deal a lot of damage.

[Et_Lanatus_baro]

to be honest mate I know its annoying when you don't win as many matches as You think you should or hope to but I find average experience per battle rating to be far more important than win rate. That will always tell more about you when it comes to WoWS ability

[havaduck]

But Average XP is deeply influenced by winning. I wouldnt put to much trust on it .... also average XP gets inflated from Permium-Acc.

 

You might be able to tell now if one uses a Premium-acc or not, but in the future the challenge will be to determine how much time with what results were inflated by prem ...... in short: avg xp is also useless.

 

Stats might be able to give somewhat of a hint about someone knowing what he is doing ....... but I wouldnt put really emphasis on em esp. when it comes to give information about being a team player.

 

 

To the OP .... I feel for you. We all have those games where you work hard on in your zone agains supperior forces, comming up on top and yet your teams manages to throw the victory away in countless and creative ways ....

I too decided to quit for today because I rather have more intelligent  less stupid and cowardly allies (and enemys) than playing right now. The difference is by far not huge, but every bit less team frustration counts.

[Figment]

If I look at your service file I found that you are just above average. So, ok, maybe 50% isn't enough, but more that 51% shouldn't it be...

 

[snip]

 

Don't get me worng. You are, by far, not a bad player. But you are also not good (or superior) enough to claim much more wins and/or higher winrates.

 

Though I see similar things from his service file, I'm looking at different aspects than experience (as havaduck points, out, that's a rather bad indicator due to the responsible WG developer not being smart enough to use base exp only and perhaps add a compensator per tier...). 1.5x/3x exp, premium, tiering etc. are all reflected in the average experience gain as is.

[Tubit101]

Oh man... You have way better stats than me, but you only have a 3% higher win ratio. I guess that illustrates how random it is to win for a solo player. I feel your pain.

 

Yesterday, we won a match where a guy on the other team had 7 kills. I felt his pain too...

[Admiral_noodle]

I decided to have a break today after a 9 more games with one win and a draw. It's so demoralising. Most of the losses weren't even close. I managed the honour of "best loser" in 3 games too.

[Adrian1914]

Well I've had worse man  It's just how it is - you can't win them all, no matter how good you do. We just have to deal with it and hope for more luck in the next battle 

 

 

 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Winning in World of Warships is as rare as seeing a Wolverine in real life when you just get headless donkeys on your team all the time. Like, what else can I do to ensure my team wins?

 

You know what's wrong with your statement?

 

Every time YOU lose TWELVE people win their game...

So, winning is not rare... you are just bad at it

[DreadArchangel]

Winning in World of Warships is as rare as seeing a Wolverine in real life when you just get headless donkeys on your team all the time. Like, what else can I do to ensure my team wins? 

 

 

I've been having so many battles like these, where I do a ton of work but the game still ends in a defeat or a draw... Had a game yesterday where I did 175k dmg and 3 kills in my New Mexico and the game still ended in a draw - Derp.

 

And then people go like "dude your winrate sucks so you suck too, shut up noob you dont know anything and blah blah blah" bs crap.

 

What else can I do to win in world of warships? It's always like this, always.

 

hear you mate, its so  annoying when you try you're best and you still end up losingH

[Always_ChatBanned]

So here's another example, 2nd battle of the day and I do ~105k dmg in my New Mexico in a tier 9 battle. Took down 3 ships, out of them was a half HP Fletcher and a FULL HP IOWA, yes you saw it right. Poor Iowa thought he had invincible armour so he showed me his side and I shuved 2 salvos into his side and scored a total of 5 citadels and boom went the iowa (within the first 2 mins of the game by myself). And guess what, we still lost... Derp <.<

 

[N00b32]

I've been having so many battles like these, where I do a ton of work but the game still ends in a defeat or a draw... Had a game yesterday where I did 175k dmg and 3 kills in my New Mexico and the game still ended in a draw - Derp.

 

And then people go like "dude your winrate sucks so you suck too, shut up noob you dont know anything and blah blah blah" bs crap.

 

 

I know your feeling buddy. That is the reason why I decided to drop the Cleveland. It`s like the Cleveland has some course of some sort, but I hate the ship compared to the CBT. 

[Dominico]

People often make similar complaints in wot. Like I killed 6 and my team still lost they are terrible. The simple answer is its not about damage or kills but infact the most important aspects are positioning and support of your team mates. I have lost count of the amount of times some terribad player at the back of the map has ended 2nd or 3rd top player or better, only because he mopped up some badly damaged enemies after we had lost. Pretty much he will have good stats, but is a terrible player.

 

Lets take 2 Battleship players  : player A and player B.

 

Player B sits at the back of the battle and is hitting many ships who are pummeling his team mates in cruisers and destroyers, he sinks 4 of the enemy which have been occupied by the team mates and does a lot of damage. All his team mates are dead on that side.

 

Player A is pushing in his battleship and soaking up the hits from these enemies. His cruiser and destroyer support are hitting the enemy ships and sinking them with less incoming fire on them. Player A ends with 1 kill and less damage, but his team mates are all alive. Goes on to win the game.

Stat nerds compare player A and B and say B is better, he has more kills more xp and a lot more damage. People in the know realise the stats mean pretty much nothing without seeing gameplay and positioning.

This is a major issue in WOT and WOW where people say comments like "if you do more than your tanks HP of damage you are playing well" and "if you kill 4 enemies you are playing well"

When the correct answer is if you support your team and help them survive, and target high priority targets and not easy kills and high damage farming, you are a good player.

Saying all that there are inevitably the 20 or 30% of games which your team will yolo and you cant win no matter what, but playing to win rather than collect kills etc is a great start which will help all teams.  ​

 

If you consistently do a lot of damage and kills and still lose, you are doing these kills and damage at the wrong time/place/target.

 

[Figment]

Timing of damage is indeed essential. Dealing 35K damage at the end of the match, or 35K near the start of it: which is more important?

[caldark]

@OP welcome to my world over the last few days since the x3 thing on the weekend..