[PORT] Atris2nd Beta Tester 333 posts 6,438 battles Report post #1 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) 3 games in a single 2 hour gaming period have I had 1 or 2 dirtbags per game going ''MM, I quit.'' even though they're, say, a Nagato going up against an Iowa, a Myoko fighting tier 8s and worst of all, quitting because the enemy team has a carrier and we do not. I get that it makes things more difficult, surely, but how is quitting the game helping in the slightest? Instead of trying to fight against the circumstances, people prefer to just drop out, handicapping their team even more and not getting any rewards for what damage they -could- have done. Most glaring one being when Myoko quit cause we were up against a Taihou. The team formed a formation where cruisers covered BBs from air attacks and we performed relatively well that way. Not to mention I only have the second hull on Mogami so a fully upgraded Myoko technically has better AA than I do. But no, this fella figured the right thing to do is to announce that he's quitting cause carriers OP and we have no carrier. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but a good formation with AA on every side can take down planes without much of an issue at all - and we did. But by the end of the game, the handicap was noticable when a bunch of cruisers started marching on our cap with our Myoko sitting there, doing nothing but take hits, when a good player would've easily been able to atleast thin the numbers by 1-2, especially when said enemy cruisers were low hp. It's been annoying me alot. Instead of using their brains to try and make the best of a bad situation, these idiots prefer to drop out at the start of the battle, be completely worthless and get nothing for it. I mean, it's their choice if they want to run negative economy and bury themselves with 60k repair fees for no credits earned, but it brings the rest of the team down. So I suppose this is a bit of a vent thread more so than anything. Happened to you? Cause it's happening to me alarmingly often and it's ruined games that could have otherwise been victories. Edited August 12, 2015 by Atris2nd 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[88TH] Siagor Players 1,336 posts Report post #2 Posted August 12, 2015 Then just imagine how it would be with those three dreaded letters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldark Alpha Tester 333 posts 1,473 battles Report post #3 Posted August 12, 2015 What you want to hope is that your team then wins and its the first game for the person who quit on a x3 weekend haha.. that would annoy the hell out of that person i bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iron_Gekko Beta Tester 497 posts 8,762 battles Report post #4 Posted August 12, 2015 Downvote them, and ask you're team to do the same. I think I read somewhere in the EULA that it's completely unacceptable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKIDZ] chazwozza Players 1,030 posts Report post #5 Posted August 12, 2015 Some people don't care about xp they just want a fun game some see a mismatch as a pointless waste of time so just quit out load another ship and hope for a better match where fun will be had.Lets face it most clued up players can see from the off which way the fight is going to go so why waste your time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #6 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) 3 games in a single 2 hour gaming period have I had 1 or 2 dirtbags per game going ''MM, I quit.'' even though they're, say, a Nagato going up against an Iowa, a Myoko fighting tier 8s and worst of all, quitting because the enemy team has a carrier and we do not. I get that it makes things more difficult, surely, but how is quitting the game helping in the slightest? Instead of trying to fight against the circumstances, people prefer to just drop out, handicapping their team even more and not getting any rewards for what damage they -could- have done. Most glaring one being when Myoko quit cause we were up against a Taihou. The team formed a formation where cruisers covered BBs from air attacks and we performed relatively well that way. Not to mention I only have the second hull on Mogami so a fully upgraded Myoko technically has better AA than I do. But no, this fella figured the right thing to do is to announce that he's quitting cause carriers OP and we have no carrier. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but a good formation with AA on every side can take down planes without much of an issue at all - and we did. But by the end of the game, the handicap was noticable when a bunch of cruisers started marching on our cap with our Myoko sitting there, doing nothing but take hits, when a good player would've easily been able to atleast thin the numbers by 1-2, especially when said enemy cruisers were low hp. It's been annoying me alot. Instead of using their brains to try and make the best of a bad situation, these idiots prefer to drop out at the start of the battle, be completely worthless and get nothing for it. I mean, it's their choice if they want to run negative economy and bury themselves with 60k repair fees for no credits earned, but it brings the rest of the team down. So I suppose this is a bit of a vent thread more so than anything. Happened to you? Cause it's happening to me alarmingly often and it's ruined games that could have otherwise been victories. Match maker decides games atm in alot of cases and people are kinda fed up with it now. I played for 2 hours this morning in Mogami and didn't win a single game, half of those games were lost before the even began. Did I quit? Nope, there is still money to be made and money is important in this game if you want to progress, but I can understand people coming off a streak of these games getting fed up. As I understand it the Devs have said that equal carrier MM will come next patch? That'll help. Edited August 12, 2015 by Aldramelech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #7 Posted August 12, 2015 Not that I have done it but when the mm messes with you and you can tell its a loss the minute you start moving I can see why people would quit why waste 20 mins on a fail game when your pushed for time ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PORT] Atris2nd Beta Tester 333 posts 6,438 battles Report post #8 Posted August 12, 2015 I'd wager that if you're pushed for time, you shouldn't be starting up a match to begin with. And, as I said. Wasting time or not, you are potentially ruining the match for the rest of your team when you're in a ship that is capable of making a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #9 Posted August 12, 2015 Yea well when you know you don't have a chance you wont make much difference a defeat is a defeat doesn't matter if you hang about or not after all 1 ship cant carry a team . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRRRP] MorgothBauglyr Beta Tester 119 posts 12,363 battles Report post #10 Posted August 12, 2015 the best part is when people quit/suicide, the game ends in a win and they get like 50xp >_> happens pretty regularly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #11 Posted August 12, 2015 Yea well when you know you don't have a chance you wont make much difference a defeat is a defeat doesn't matter if you hang about or not after all 1 ship cant carry a team . Why do you play team games then? Go play some singleplayer game if you don't even bother to try to help your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iron_Gekko Beta Tester 497 posts 8,762 battles Report post #12 Posted August 12, 2015 Some people don't care about xp they just want a fun game some see a mismatch as a pointless waste of time so just quit out load another ship and hope for a better match where fun will be had.Lets face it most clued up players can see from the off which way the fight is going to go so why waste your time? You can try, for the most part, the best games I have had are the ones that seemed impossible. If the odds are stacked against you and you're up for a tough fighting, having a... sorry for wording, "loser" drop out because the setup is not 120% to his liking should earn him a place on the crap list, that way I, as a player or the team, won't have to deal with this person again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el_bloom Beta Tester 231 posts 4,471 battles Report post #13 Posted August 12, 2015 Some people don't care about xp they just want a fun game some see a mismatch as a pointless waste of time so just quit out load another ship and hope for a better match where fun will be had.Lets face it most clued up players can see from the off which way the fight is going to go so why waste your time? Because only 9 good players or even less can steamrollfloorwipe 12 siemkas not so skilled guys. Everything is possible, even with guys chickening out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #14 Posted August 12, 2015 Why do you play team games then? Go play some singleplayer game if you don't even bother to try to help your team. If you read I said I never done it but can see why some do when all you get is trolled by the mm and you know its a waste of time and your goin to get defeated . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #15 Posted August 12, 2015 how can you blame them? the MM is a joke (a bad one) but when a player clicks "exit battle" their ship needs to explode. so we can see who left the match and who is just AFK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #16 Posted August 12, 2015 If you read I said I never done it but can see why some do when all you get is trolled by the mm and you know its a waste of time and your goin to get defeated . Sorry, misread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iron_Gekko Beta Tester 497 posts 8,762 battles Report post #17 Posted August 12, 2015 If you read I said I never done it but can see why some do when all you get is trolled by the mm and you know its a waste of time and your goin to get defeated . You still get xp based on the damage you deal, so it's simple, are you good enough to fight hard games? Or are you one of those people that just drops out and folds if the cards are not to you're liking. Granted it's a personal choice. Cannot wait til the clan system is set up with clan battles, will be so nice when you know that the whole team has you're back insted of certain types. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #18 Posted August 12, 2015 You still get xp based on the damage you deal, so it's simple, are you good enough to fight hard games? Or are you one of those people that just drops out and folds if the cards are not to you're liking. Granted it's a personal choice. Cannot wait til the clan system is set up with clan battles, will be so nice when you know that the whole team has you're back insted of certain types. Yea but if you get a win and do damage you will get more and I said earlier I have not quit a game but can see why other s do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
___Canaris___ Beta Tester 163 posts 1,690 battles Report post #19 Posted August 12, 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKIDZ] chazwozza Players 1,030 posts Report post #20 Posted August 12, 2015 You get the odd match where the underdogs win but they are few and far between 90% of matches that I thought we would lose we have no ifs no buts it's not often a team with less CVs and less destroyers pull it round and people know this and just cut their loss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvfharrier Weekend Tester 805 posts 4,630 battles Report post #21 Posted August 12, 2015 Yea well when you know you don't have a chance you wont make much difference a defeat is a defeat doesn't matter if you hang about or not after all 1 ship cant carry a team . I'm sorry, but I genuinely can not understand this mentality. I actually can not sympathize with it at all and get inside this person's head to see it from his perspective. Not only can one ship absolutely make a difference regardless of tier differences but even if you don't make a difference in any given mismatch, surely it's better to try? And even looking at it in a case simply of damage done and xp earned, something is better than nothing surely? Such defeatist dribble... all these people do is make it harder for the rest of his team who didn't throw their toys out of the pram because not everything went their way. I know you stated you don't do this yourself, but to the people you say you can empathize with and to those that do: Grow a pair. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warlock07rox Beta Tester 358 posts Report post #22 Posted August 12, 2015 I'm sorry, but I genuinely can not understand this mentality. I actually can not sympathize with it at all and get inside this person's head to see it from his perspective. Not only can one ship absolutely make a difference regardless of tier differences but even if you don't make a difference in any given mismatch, surely it's better to try? And even looking at it in a case simply of damage done and xp earned, something is better than nothing surely? Such defeatist dribble... all these people do is make it harder for the rest of his team who didn't throw their toys out of the pram because not everything went their way. I know you stated you don't do this yourself, but to the people you say you can empathize with and to those that do: Grow a pair. Wish people would read what I wrote I never have quit a team and have tried but I can relate to people that do ,because you can tell within minutes from the mm if you have a chance or not and some just rather leave than waste 20mins or so for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genosse Players 460 posts 6,789 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2015 I did play a little bit of Robocraft for the last couple of months, and they punish leavers with a 2 minute waiting time before a new battle can be started. I would raise this to 5 minutes for WoWs because battles take a little bit longer overall, and with that system in place, there would be almost no benefit to quitting the battle early (since you have to wait your time anyway). It's not a perfect system by any means, but at least it's something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BNBS] Sybeck Players 466 posts 11,502 battles Report post #24 Posted August 12, 2015 What these quitters don't take into account is that the skill level of players on the other side is unknown, they could all be in unskilled, unmoduled stock ships, they could have afkers, they might have disconnects, they might play like lemmings, they might disregard caps to kill all and best of all they might have a TKer. There is never such a thing as a game that is lost before it begins. The most remembered and celebrated battles in history are those won by inferior forces against superior ones through better skill and tactics and maybe a little luck. I get a lot more pleasure in winning these types of matches than just a faceroll that's been setup by a favourable to our side bad MM. If you think you're going to lose then you're a loser at heart. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #25 Posted August 12, 2015 I did play a little bit of Robocraft for the last couple of months, and they punish leavers with a 2 minute waiting time before a new battle can be started. I would raise this to 5 minutes for WoWs because battles take a little bit longer overall, and with that system in place, there would be almost no benefit to quitting the battle early (since you have to wait your time anyway). It's not a perfect system by any means, but at least it's something. they are already punished by their ship being locked until the match ends... dont need to extra punish players, if a MM is a pure disaster... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites