Abandoned Furutaka and jpn cruiser line - not fun to play - bought Kuma back.

[Finnka]

Abandoned Furutaka and jpn cruiser line - not fun to play - too long to progress over Furutaka and Aoba - bought Kuma back. Waiting-game is not fun. Yes - there are many persons who like that tactical thinking and long time to think but that is not me. No - I am not teenager person - I am practicaly you grandpa aged man. I manged to make many good games with Furutaka but .. if it is not fun so why to do it? And that loooong turret turning time. 

 

Well - not much to progress. USN cruiser line. 

 

57 % victory rate,  23 battles. 

 

Has WG understand what is fast flowing active battle and what is boring? 

[Sub_Eleven]

You are not alone. The gameplay just wasn't for me either. I dislike battleships with a passion, and the furutaka pretends to be one without the benefits of an actual battleship. Grinding pepsi cola now, which isn't great either but doable. *If* they ever decide to buff the furutaka I *might* pick up the japanese cruiser line again, but untill that happends im not even touching it with a long stick.

 

(benched destroyers aswell and refuse to play carrier so theres not much to do besides USN cruisers)

[Nethraniel]

Furutaka is scheduled for a buff in the near future (4.1 maybe).

[Finnka]

Japanese cruiser line is very ok and up to Kuma fun to play. Nothing wrong. Fun-problems start from Furutaka. 

[Finnka]

Furutaka is scheduled for a buff in the near future (4.1 maybe).

 

If I know wg it is some minor buff. 

 

But - that is not my problem. It is WG:s problem. 

[MotherSeal_pl]

Furutaka is about to have gun traverse, torps reload, gun reload and rudder shift time buffed.Confirmed by devs on russian forum and quoted somewhere in EU forum as well. Besides Furutaka is only T5 ship and fun only starts after it. Aoba can do magic with her 203mm guns, Myoko is on par with Pensacola, but with torps, Mogami is T8 cleveland, nothing more to add, Ibuki might be some downgrade, but it should be ok and Zao is sexy as all hell ;)

 

So don't be that sour, we're only 2 months into open beta and there is much to be changed and polished, but it can't be done out of the hat. collecting data needs time! Also remember that Furu is first ship in game to carry 203mm guns - those are deadly for T3-T5 ships and can hurt T6 too. too big buff will make it OP in low tier battles!

 

Hopefully you will return to IJN cruisers some day!

[x00Starki]

Mogami is worth it... and:

During closed alpha and beta, many players thought of Aoba as the worst ship in IJN cruiser line. After the Introduction of Furutaka (which plays quite painful, i have to admit), Aoba feels like a revolution, because it's several times better than Furutaka - and this was, to my mind, the real intention for the introduction of Furutaka... so WG did well...

 

At least the IJN cruiser line is constantly improving from T5 to T8, or even T10... unlike the US cruiser line, which has this kind of "breakdown" at tier 7, where it takes much longer too get past it...

[Finnka]

"Aoba...A Giant, Slow, Flammable, Fragile Turd"

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/20998-aobaa-giant-slow-flammable-fragile-turd/

 

 

WG:s philosofy is "grinding teaches you". But....Sorry - I am too old for that. I get more than enough grinding in WOT. Furutaka-Aoba. Double grinding is simple too much and I think WG do not change that very much.

 

It is WG:s business to find paying customers - not to make paying customers to work things they do not like. 

 

And once more - 57% winrate. Furutaka is/was making results but I do not like its playstyle at all. It kills playing. Someone else might like to do that. I do not. 

[Takru]

Had my issues with her as well. Had a look at the forums to find out I was not alone. Then I found some people who explained how the ship should be used and voila, she started to actually work.

She's more of a sniper. 203mm guns with AP can put some serious holes into many ships, even onehit other cruisers on that tier. Torps are for close defense only, though.

[Syrchalis]

I skipped the Furutaka entirely with free XP, because I needed to save credits (you dont need to buy the ship and its upgrades and then sell it for less) and time (obviously). And despite never having to play it, I like the Aoba a lot. I like it more than the Cleveland, simply because the guns are so much better. It's made of paper, but aside from that it's really solid. The AA isn't really good, but with AA consumable, which you should have anyway it can do some stuff.

 

So, whatever you do, just get to the Aoba.

[Finnka]

I skipped the Furutaka entirely with free XP, because I needed to save credits (you dont need to buy the ship and its upgrades and then sell it for less) and time (obviously). And despite never having to play it, I like the Aoba a lot. I like it more than the Cleveland, simply because the guns are so much better. It's made of paper, but aside from that it's really solid. The AA isn't really good, but with AA consumable, which you should have anyway it can do some stuff.

 

So, whatever you do, just get to the Aoba.

aproximately 30 000 free xp to earn. Do not happen very soon.

[Syrchalis]

I can just promise you, it's worth it, even dying in the Furutaka. The Aoba is decent and everything after that really amazing, (except T9). Winrate of T7/8 Cruiser is much higher on IJN side than US.

[Yamiji]

For me Furutaka was better than Aoba will ever be.You are mini-BB, angle and let those AP shells rip enemy cruisers apart. Aoba is like a giant "Set me on fire" sign sailing on the oceans. But if you don't like pre-planning and slower gameplay, generally steer clear of IJN, as most their turrets turn slow compared to USS counterparts. Gotta love the torpeedus though

 

[Battledragon]

Aoba was a perfectly decent cruiser, it had AA that actually did something, while the AA on furutaka was about as much use as a screen door in a submarine.  The Aoba can fire 2/3 of it's guns forward, if you go head on you're a very small target and with AP you can easily score citadels while keping your own covered (Aoba's belt armour is crap, but strangely the bulkheads are much better, it's quite stong end on)  It's also got great rate of fire for its 203mm guns, almost double the Furutaka's so it's much more capable of taking care of destroyers.  It wasn't a great ship by any means, but I was happy to play through it to the Myoko, while Furutaka was so horrible I ended up buying gold to free xp past it.  Myoko, btw is one of the best tier 7 ships in the game better guns (alpha, range and reload time are all better), and armour than the Pensacola, also more health, faster, more range, and torpedoes.

[MotherSeal_pl]

The problem is that almost every ship is being compared to cleveland. Remember - Cleveland is going to be nerfed/replaced! I personally liked Aoba more than cleveland in CBT - more range, better camo, and 203s are more reliable in high tier battle (not to mention that 34,9 knt top speed which is, guess what, higher than any us cruiser except phoenix). It's my personal choice, but hey - everybody can have one.

 

IJN cruisers definitely require different approach than US ones and as stated before it's personal choice which one to play. If somebody doesn't like/can't play the ship does it mean it's bad ?

[Finnka]

And what is going to happen Clevelands captain if Cleveland is replaced? 

when Omaha will be nerffed?

when Murmansk will be nerffed?

when ST Luis will be nerffed

when  Minekaze will be nerffed? 

when Kuma will be nerffed?

when carriers will be nerffed?

when torps will be nerffed? 

 

Happy nerfbaT gAME! Will be pretty boooooring game. 

 

Sorry to say but it sounds very much like WorldOfWarNOplanesanymore game again. 

[Takeda92]

And what is going to happen Clevelands captain if Cleveland is replaced? 

when Omaha will be nerffed?

when Murmansk will be nerffed?

when ST Luis will be nerffed

when  Minekaze will be nerffed? 

when Kuma will be nerffed?

when carriers will be nerffed?

when torps will be nerffed? 

 

Happy nerfbaT gAME! Will be pretty boooooring game. 

 

Sorry to say but it sounds very much like WorldOfWarNOplanesanymore game again. 

 

I don't know about you but there are already enough whine threads about those, especially the last two.

 

All I can say, look forward to Furutaka buff, maybe it will make the ship fun to play so you can advance in the tree more. 

[allex27]

after tier 5 will be much easier and funn , aoba its a good ship , low profile and good guns

[Finnka]

 

I don't know about you but there are already enough whine threads about those, especially the last two.

 

All I can say, look forward to Furutaka buff, maybe it will make the ship fun to play so you can advance in the tree more. 

 

Can they make it more powerfull than AOBA(doubt that)? Aoba has same amounts of guns and a little bit more rapid turning guns. 

 

But as I said. Fun is major point here. I am kind of adrenaline-addict. Besides adrenaline helps to pains(well ... WHEN you grow old you know...). 

[potjo]

she has too slow cannons, bad bad japanese product.

[Armoured_Underpants]

I also sold My Kuma then bought it back after a few games in the Furutaka. But I persisted....& am halfway through the Aboa. Those 203's will citadel Tier 8 cruisers. They will also citadel some BB's at range. These two ships are just very different beasts to what your used to that's all. yeah you do have to think ahead with the turret traverse & reload but this can be improved noticeably with Cap skills & upgrades. Below the Furu those ships are so easy its disgusting ....come on guys...take off those bloody dresses 

 

[H3llHound]

the furutaka is actually very easy to play. You dont HE spam with it. AP against cruisers and jap BBs. HE against DDs and US BBs. always attack in a sharp angle; either driving towards them or away.

[Finnka]

Yes but do you have fun? Fun here is a primus motor. 

 

I think biggest mistake WG has made is loss of good flowing nice battle in higher tiers. Tier 1 to tier 4(5) is pretty dammm most excelent NICE GORGEUS GOOD HILARIOUS FUN! 

 

I know I know - this is my subjective opinnion.

[Gizzernl]

Must say, Furutaka was a bit hard to grind, but you just need to play it very conciously. Use the range you have and the speed you have. Could even use the flags that give you extra range. Use your caliber and load AP when facing a phoenix or omaha. Citadel galore! Now with reload buff coming USN CL's really have to think 2 before closing in and doing some broadsides.

 

Aoba is better indeed. I would not go as far as to call it a revelation. But the range is decent and the guns do their work good. Really like to ship, I also kinda like the furutaka, however hard the grind could be sometimes.

[StealthAce]

Didn't like Furutaka either, I actually used much free XP to get rid of it but I do like Aoba again. It is more nimble and turning turrets doesn't take a full day.