GeneralRushHour Beta Tester 369 posts 1,516 battles Report post #1 Posted August 2, 2015 7th loss in a row today, Play as New Mexico, i go and cap A by myself while supporting some guys at B taking out a Furutaka trying to cap, get a destroyer closing in on me, take him out, now it´s just me and a carrier left in the game against 4 ships, 2 New Yorks, 1 Cleveland and 1 Kongo. I decide to go up against both New Yorks at the same time, took them out with 9k health left, aim for the Kongo, we trade shots until the game is over. I get High Caliber flag and Dreadnought, i capped a point, i helped out the teammates and i killed one third of the enemy team. My Average XP despite the 7th loss in a row is still going up, My damage output is going up, My kill ratio is going up, but my winratio is just dwindling downwards. So all you enlightened 50+% people out there, you tell me what i should do with my BB to get out of this streak of losses. I felt i´ve tried everything by now. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeminus Players 105 posts 5,590 battles Report post #2 Posted August 2, 2015 Nothing you can do, 1 player cannot carry the other 11 unfortunately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralRushHour Beta Tester 369 posts 1,516 battles Report post #3 Posted August 2, 2015 Nothing you can do, 1 player cannot carry the other 11 unfortunately But there´s gotta be something, i see BB players with over 50% win ratio so they must be doing something im not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangeminus Players 105 posts 5,590 battles Report post #4 Posted August 2, 2015 But there´s gotta be something, i see BB players with over 50% win ratio so they must be doing something im not. Just luck of the draw for who you get on your team and who enemy gets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRBSA] Dbars_eu Beta Tester 310 posts 4,027 battles Report post #5 Posted August 2, 2015 7 loses in a row? thats it? also yea, wows is a lot of luck. too hard to carry games, ships too slow to move around the map to change the course of a battle, rng damage, MM, etc list goes on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NettiWelho Beta Tester 137 posts 3,244 battles Report post #6 Posted August 2, 2015 Form a division with a CV player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fi_8_8_8_8 Beta Tester 279 posts 2,318 battles Report post #7 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) either divisions..since you get 2 less idiotic team members.. or just bite the apple. I drooped today from almost 56% total to 54% sth..similar to you..9 games, 1 win, 1 draw.. With Furutaka, Mexico, Cleve and Nicholas.. most of the games I got between 2 and 4 kills and average base xp above 1k..always under top three. So I feel ya..just is a pain. Nothing you can do Added you to contacts..will invite you to a squad when I see you on..if that's cool with you Edited August 2, 2015 by Fi_8_8_8_8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philipp_ab_exterminatore Alpha Tester 1,191 posts 8,097 battles Report post #8 Posted August 2, 2015 Never go anywhere alone in a BB and try and stay as central to the map as possible so you can help where needed I have shot down 52 planes in my North Carolina and just this morning I had a battle with 164k and 4 kills it is possible to carry in a BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #9 Posted August 2, 2015 Form a division with another BB player or a CA player is what I will say. Two BB can alternate their shots and really incriese their chances of oneshotting targets with citadel pens, and thus knocking out enemies one by one. They can also combine their HP pool and repair ability to become an intimidating brick the enemy have to get through. Having a CA player with you can also be good, he can use AA ability to defend against CV and he can fend of sneaky DD. And when going up against enemy BB, he will be able to use HE to set on fire thus putting more preassure on the enemy- The HE/fire spam will also keep enemy health down and counter act repairs by their BB, allowing you to finish them of faster with citadels hits. You could also have a CV that can fly fighter cover over you, but more times than not, the CV will end up sending planes all over the map and not allways to help you, same with DD, they will mostly also fight on their own, ambushing targets. Other than playing in a coordinated division, I can't really say much except hope for the luck of getting a good team. It is just a lot harder to carry in WoWs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acetessigester Beta Tester 237 posts 19,475 battles Report post #10 Posted August 2, 2015 I have been playing the game for a little long time and feel often also so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralRushHour Beta Tester 369 posts 1,516 battles Report post #11 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Form a division with another BB player or a CA player is what I will say. Two BB can alternate their shots and really incriese their chances of oneshotting targets with citadel pens, and thus knocking out enemies one by one. They can also combine their HP pool and repair ability to become an intimidating brick the enemy have to get through. Having a CA player with you can also be good, he can use AA ability to defend against CV and he can fend of sneaky DD. And when going up against enemy BB, he will be able to use HE to set on fire thus putting more preassure on the enemy- The HE/fire spam will also keep enemy health down and counter act repairs by their BB, allowing you to finish them of faster with citadels hits. You could also have a CV that can fly fighter cover over you, but more times than not, the CV will end up sending planes all over the map and not allways to help you, same with DD, they will mostly also fight on their own, ambushing targets. Other than playing in a coordinated division, I can't really say much except hope for the luck of getting a good team. It is just a lot harder to carry in WoWs. So division is the way to go, been a while since the last time but hopefully that´s the key to turn this around. either divisions..since you get 2 less idiotic team members.. or just bite the apple. I drooped today from almost 56% total to 54% sth..similar to you..9 games, 1 win, 1 draw.. With Furutaka, Mexico, Cleve and Nicholas.. most of the games I got between 2 and 4 kills and average base xp above 1k..always under top three. So I feel ya..just is a pain. Nothing you can do Added you to contacts..will invite you to a squad when I see you on..if that's cool with you Thanks man, i´ll be sure to login tomorrow and hopefully we can do a game or two Here´s a comparison with my New York 37 battles vs 26 for the New Mexico. New York New Mexico Experience 1,230 1,485 Damage Caused 46,455 53,323 Base Defence 10.95 14.54 Win Ratio 54% 31% Same style of play since the first BB. Edited August 2, 2015 by GeneralRushHour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocknrobot1 Beta Tester 68 posts 1,682 battles Report post #12 Posted August 2, 2015 Ignore win ratio, honestly. Go for average damage/kills/XP per battle. Win rate is just depending on too many random factors. Too all these random factors add that WG might change MM variables in the background to adjust and see what could be the outcome. Enjoy your ship, try to stick with teammates that you think are doing a good job. There's not much more you could do, no worries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamStarion Players 86 posts 950 battles Report post #13 Posted August 2, 2015 I was trying to get my first win bonus (2x due to event) on friday with my Cleveland. After 5 lost battles in which i was always top or second in xp earned, i just had enough and didn't play more WoWs that day. Earlier it took me 4 battles in the Fuso to have a win... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,268 battles Report post #14 Posted August 2, 2015 some times it happens.... log off for a hour then come back is my best advice as more you get pissed at it the worse you will play and then thats anouther team member failing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonmd Players 801 posts 1,673 battles Report post #15 Posted August 2, 2015 The fact youve got up to a New Mexico must mean you know roughly what youre doing, all I can do is echo the advice above to join with 1 or 2 people in a division. Being coordinated really IS the key to this game, Lone Wolves dont last long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #16 Posted August 2, 2015 I was trying to get my first win bonus (2x due to event) on friday with my Cleveland. After 5 lost battles in which i was always top or second in xp earned, i just had enough and didn't play more WoWs that day. Earlier it took me 4 battles in the Fuso to have a win... Haning the same problems of late especially with Cleveland. I try not to focus on win rate too much now and enjoy the game. Regularly get the honour of best loser ;) But I did have a 9 game winning streak so it's just "bad luck" sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flaz3 Beta Tester 64 posts Report post #17 Posted August 2, 2015 There is really nothing more you can do. But about the luck part I will say that only luck you need in this game is getting ok'ish team members. Luck will never be as major factor in these games as the skill of a player. RNG does factor in a little specially on early BB's with abysmal spread but that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #18 Posted August 2, 2015 7th loss in a row today, Play as New Mexico, i go and cap A by myself while supporting some guys at B taking out a Furutaka trying to cap, get a destroyer closing in on me, take him out, now it´s just me and a carrier left in the game against 4 ships, 2 New Yorks, 1 Cleveland and 1 Kongo. I decide to go up against both New Yorks at the same time, took them out with 9k health left, aim for the Kongo, we trade shots until the game is over. I get High Caliber flag and Dreadnought, i capped a point, i helped out the teammates and i killed one third of the enemy team. My Average XP despite the 7th loss in a row is still going up, My damage output is going up, My kill ratio is going up, but my winratio is just dwindling downwards. So all you enlightened 50+% people out there, you tell me what i should do with my BB to get out of this streak of losses. I felt i´ve tried everything by now. It depends on your team, if you can try to "suggest" a game plan for the next few minutes until the actual battlefield developes, then re-evaluate and adjust. It'll come with time and the higher the Tier, the better and more organized it gets besides the Premium babes. My winrate is due to the awesome and totally overpowered performance of my CVs, my BB stats are pretty evened out, win or loss is in most cases depending on the amount and Tier of CVs in our game, so much fun yay. Try to help organizing, do your best to deploy as much damage as possible on strategic targets. Sometimes you need to be the voice of sanity or simply the "lunatic" to go defend a base or cap point and die horribly to buy your team some time to win. So many different ways to shine or [edited]up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJezna Beta Tester 790 posts 1,808 battles Report post #19 Posted August 2, 2015 I seem to be getting alot more good teams when I play either at daytime, or really late in the night, seems most of the less competent and/or serious players are playing in the evenings. And I do feel your pain, it's so anticlimatic when you're having a really good game, then look at the top of the screen and realise 8 of your teammembers are gone and the four kills you have are the only ones the entire team managed. It is hard to carry in this game, even if you play flawlessly. If you see me online, don't hesitate to drop me a msg, I always prefer to division with someone serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exozen Players 165 posts 4,370 battles Report post #20 Posted August 2, 2015 I made it to 50% today , probably went down again tho to 49 since i had like 8 losses in a row in the Amagi.. But the key is to play in a 3-man division, that way , you know atleast 2 of your team mates have some sort of a functional brain. Oh and the key to playing BB's effectivly is not to play them , they are currently ranking as the worst type of ship in the game so if you want to make a big diffrence go play a destoyers or better yet a carrier , they have the highest chance of actually change the outcome of a battle in this current Meta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominico Players 533 posts 2,226 battles Report post #21 Posted August 2, 2015 It's like wot in that it's not about your damage output. It's about what you stop or what you support. So for example killing their top ship or player and dying is more important than surviving all game till you are losing then finishing off 3 ships, or being back of the map doing potshots and getting hits but not taking hits for the team. It's not about damage done it's about where you do it at what time etc. I've seen terrible players end up top 5 by not really being involved till near the end. All that said don't worry about losing streaks till you beat my 9 in a row!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scilya Beta Tester 145 posts 937 battles Report post #22 Posted August 3, 2015 my winrate is 44.2% does it matter? no is it an indication of skill? not realy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #23 Posted August 3, 2015 Play in divisons or switch to CVs to increase your winrate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #24 Posted August 3, 2015 @General. Playing in Divisions, whilst no guarantee of a win takes away a lot of frustration as you can converse with your division members during battle (better if you are on TS). having a great game and losing is probably the most frustrating thing so talking about it with someone during and after really does help. Bottom line is, win rate has less to do with how good you are than your overall involvement in that battle, having the win is the cherry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GG_HF] MassTahh Beta Tester 100 posts 10,441 battles Report post #25 Posted August 3, 2015 I play mostly random games (<25% in divisions with friends). With BB on domination IMHO good idea is to try brawling. Push one of the points and then usually crowd will follow and half of enemies in the area will chicken out seeing BB or 2 with CA. Yeah, you will die a lot in those kind of engagements but first 'you will have fun' second 'you will build up hell of an advantage for the team'. 2nd thing... target priorities. As a BB you will help your team more by taking out cruisers. There are 2 reasons for that: - cruisers are primary enemy of friendly DDs - cruisers are capable of capping nearly as much as DDs Many BB players really enjoy those long range exchanges with other BBs... yea, sometimes you will get a nice hit but being honest - how many of those salvos are like <8000k dmg.... that means basically shooting and shooting and not really changing anything in the battle. Cruiser you can either down with 1 good salvo or seriously cripple... if cruiser player will get down ~50% of HP from 1 salvo he will loose cold blood and start trying to prevent next one which in most of the cases will result in inconsistent play making him easy target for your teammates. So once you took out enemy CAs and hopefully DDs that are in the area you have mix of BB/CA/DD running against BBs... even if they are more HE spam from CAs and torp carpets from DDs will seriously affect their positioning making it hard to focus any targets. That's what I came up after 3000+ battles and though I don't consider myself great player, usually my aggressive style pays off in domination games - even if I die without making single frag. On Battleships I currently have 67%win ratio. In standard battles I play a bit more carefully but basically similar principles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites