Map border exploiting, when will this stop ?`

[McCracken666]

Any ETA or something official from WG about this crap ? Its getting extreme.

[mtm78]

You forgot to blur out the name of the player but you blurred out the chat because you got toxic towards him?

 

[Torpedo42]

Dont worry, half of your team is hugging the border, meanwhile the enemy is about to cap the flag.

 

GG, well played

 

I like when enemy team is border exploiting. I go to cap instead of focus on them. Its a easy win

[OldGrandad]

Epic fail OP. 5 out of your 8 players hugging a border. I will assume you lost otherwise you would not have posted this 

 

[Darth_Glorious]

until when they fix it, but now, deal with it

[McCracken666]

mtm78, on 02 August 2015 - 10:57 AM, said:

You forgot to blur out the name of the player but you blurred out the chat because you got toxic towards him?

 

 

Uhh is this the police ?

 

I would not call it toxic, more "black humor", the general puplic and the police in here could be offended by. Side question, is there need to blur player names in the game ?

 

Ducat1st0, on 02 August 2015 - 11:16 AM, said:

Epic fail OP. 5 out of your 8 players hugging a border. I will assume you lost otherwise you would not have posted this 

 

Epic, thats a big word ! i dont really see anything EPIC about this, but each to his own ! Im happy i could post somehting you find EPIC !!

 

yes 5 out 8 players of "my" players map hugging. It was a win, but definitely the map border exploiting was playing a part in the win, thats the whole point

 

"your players" they are mine ?

 

[mtm78]

 

Uhh is this the police ?

 

I would not call it toxic, more "black humor", the general puplic and the police in here could be offended by.

 

Ow general public and myself love black humor! please post the unedited screenshot so we can all have a laugh 

 

ps. The police btw, is said to be your best friend.. though I agree I don't buy that either 

[McCracken666]

mtm78, on 02 August 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

Ow general public and myself love black humor! please post the unedited screenshot so we can all have a laugh 

 

ps. The police btw, is said to be your best friend.. though I agree I don't buy that either 

That kind of black humor will have to be send in a PM for you, to much fun !

 

Ok one respons to the actual subject. Deal with it - im dealing with it since it came, not a huge issue, but still would have been nice to know if WG actually are paying attention to this by now.

 

We will see then

 

[b101uk]

I don't really see any exploit, all I see is easy targets presenting themselves for destruction and thus easy XP and credits

 

[Varyagi]

I really hope they are looking into this. Just yesterday I was closing in on a CV player who was border hugging. He was launching his torps from his torp bombers manually. And when I was nearing the border I also noticed his torpedo bombers were popping into and out of existence and were then gone again by letting the aircrafts cross the borders as well (this is possible unfortunately). Because of this it was impossible for me to predict the incoming torpedo launch and when the torpedo bombers popped into existence again the torpedoes were already launched and one was enough to kill me (after dodging other TB attacks that didnt take place near the border) . 

It is also much more difficult for DDs to actually get some torpedo hits on CVs (or any other ship for that matter) who are border hugging. Luckily I've not seen it that much but I would rather not partake in battles similar to the OP's battle..

[McCracken666]

I don't really see any exploit, all I see is easy targets presenting themselves for destruction and thus easy XP and credits

 

Go in game, play more and you will see for yourself. Im amazed someone has to explain how it is an issue. You cannot hit 50% of the boat outside the map, predicting speed and possition of edge exploiters is very difficult.

 

It is the exact oppesite of easy target presenting themselves for destruction and easy XP and credits.

[Darth_Glorious]

2 tips to counter this exploit :

 

- try to close range as much as possible (less shell travel time = more hits) 

- shoot along the border lines (don't aim at the ship)

 

This exploit is good to use if you are outnumbered and need to buy time like escape the encirclement in Hotspot map...

[b101uk]

 

Go in game, play more and you will see for yourself. Im amazed someone has to explain how it is an issue. You cannot hit 50% of the boat outside the map, predicting speed and possition of edge exploiters is very difficult.

 

It is the exact oppesite of easy target presenting themselves for destruction and easy XP and credits.

 

 

its NOT an issue for me, in the main I find them easer to hit, in fact when someone collides with the map edge then steers away from it, it disappoints me.

 

 

I could perhaps understand some complaining from CV players, given it can screw up torpedo and dive bombers, but shooting with guns, NO.

 

 

when just complaining without offering any constructive solution it all just comes across as whining BTW.

 

 

however they could improve the situation for the inept by adding a collision point to the front of the ships, so between the front and middle collision points hitting the map edge it will force the ship to run parallel to the edge, while not having a rear collision point would allow the ship to steer away from the edge given how the action of the rudder works and I am sure the collision avoidance system could be rigged so when boarder contact is made with the ship collision point it forces 1/4 rudder to steer away making it imposable for the player to forcibly hold the ship on the barrier, if they then added a second barrier ~300m out from the currant boundary that was specifically for aircraft it would alleviate some of the problems CV aircraft have attacking boarder huggers, then finally if they made sure that the edge cut-off for the mini-map UI was set 200m passed the aircraft boundary there would be NO occluding of icons under the mini-map UI edge.

[simonmd]

Yes, I also dot get the problem, they are now going in a dead straight line and much easier to hit than if they were in open sea and weaving (like any decent captain should do under attack). They are also sitting ducks for anyone with a decent range on torps as they cant turn away so I think overall, the cons equal the pros at least.

 

I've seen alot of threads on this now, maybe it would be more usefull to come up with a solution? The map has to have a boundry, what do you suggest should change or happen once a ship reaches it?

[McCracken666]

Yes, I also dot get the problem, they are now going in a dead straight line and much easier to hit than if they were in open sea and weaving (like any decent captain should do under attack). They are also sitting ducks for anyone with a decent range on torps as they cant turn away so I think overall, the cons equal the pros at least.

 

I've seen alot of threads on this now, maybe it would be more usefull to come up with a solution? The map has to have a boundry, what do you suggest should change or happen once a ship reaches it?

 

They are not easier to hit, stop this.

 

There are tons of ways to solve it.

 

To name a few.

 

 

1. When ship hits border, its like hitting land.(ther could be land ther aswell)

2.You take damage when hitting land/border

3. Make it hit border without going byond the border and make the ship slow down alot so its easy to hit.

[CactuarLOL]

[Finnka]

I think they have fixed it already. Borders does not prevent anymore shots or torps hitting. Borders are now disadvantage. 

 

[DtXpwnz]

I really hope they are looking into this. Just yesterday I was closing in on a CV player who was border hugging. He was launching his torps from his torp bombers manually. And when I was nearing the border I also noticed his torpedo bombers were popping into and out of existence and were then gone again by letting the aircrafts cross the borders as well (this is possible unfortunately). Because of this it was impossible for me to predict the incoming torpedo launch and when the torpedo bombers popped into existence again the torpedoes were already launched and one was enough to kill me (after dodging other TB attacks that didnt take place near the border) . 

It is also much more difficult for DDs to actually get some torpedo hits on CVs (or any other ship for that matter) who are border hugging. Luckily I've not seen it that much but I would rather not partake in battles similar to the OP's battle..

 

nice fairytale, please tell me now the one about pink elephant.

[ApexTitan]

It will be fixed when they get bored of putting tones of ships into the game that no one can play and focus on fixing the game mechanics instead ;)

[Crysantos]

 

Nice idea but there are still plenty reason to get "stuck" there by accident, especially with all those happy little steering gear incidents lately. Just make the border an island-like thingy, people get stuck there without damage, no advantage and represent happy Pinatas for the others.

[aboch]

I do not like that edge border sliding and people exploiting it. Of course everybody goes in it by accident, but that is a different story.

 

I think there could be an easy solution for it. While outside the border the following effects apply:

- you can not shoot

- consumables use and recharge are frozen

- planes can not be launched neither prepared, as well frozen

- torpedos and ammunition will loading paused while outside the map

- AA fire either not working at all or at lower level.

 

Eventually all this could apply after 5 seconds outside the border ..... As soon as you get back on map everything is normal again.

 

I think that would immediatly solve the edge sliding exploiter problem and should not be a big deal in coding ....

 

Just my 2 cents 

[Broevaharo]

It will be fixed, sooner or later they will just make it a hard border that bounces you back or a fix like suggested by other people that will give you damage to the ship.

In the meantime you just have to live with it (and yes I will use it as a very, very last resort until they fix it)

Little edit:

If people are having trouble with hitting ships with torpedoes that are glitching, just fly your planes to the map edge, on the map edge you can do a proper manual drop again.

[Shenbatu]

So mad

[simonmd]

 

They are not easier to hit, stop this.

 

So youre saying that a target that is at a fixed range going in a dead straight line is NOT easier to hit than on in the open sea? 

 

Ok then........ 

[Sybeck]

 

So youre saying that a target that is at a fixed range going in a dead straight line is NOT easier to hit than on in the open sea? 

 

Ok then........ 

 

I have raised this before elsewhere, but nobody could answer.  However, it "appears" to me that the part of the ship outside of the map receives no damage when shells impact.  The only damage I see registering is for shells that impact on the part of the ship that is still on the proper side of the map.  I may be completely wrong on that, but that's my impression from what I've observed.  In which case, yeah, it would be harder, as 1 or 2 front turret citadels are not available to hit and 50% of your salvo spread is ineffective.

 

Like I said though, I'm using a MK 1 eyeball and my observation may well be wrong.