Feuchte_Grotte Players 52 posts Report post #1 Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Not that that matter much ( daily missions ) but in my case I have 3 of them, all of them asking me to do torpedoes kills. The problem is, I don't have any ship using torpedoes. Should be at lets one option to change the mission to fit something you are playing instead of bothering getting a ship to fit the mission request. Being able to have a choice is important in a game after all. PS. I'm not talking about mission counter reset, I'm talking about mission requirements reset ( change ). Edited August 1, 2015 by Bonecrusher 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BNBS] Sybeck Players 466 posts 11,502 battles Report post #2 Posted August 1, 2015 Not that that matter much ( daily missions ) but in my case I have 3 of them, all of them asking me to do torpedoes kills. The problem is, I don't have any ship using torpedoes. Should be at lets one option to change the mission to fit something you are playing instead of bothering getting a ship to fit the mission request. Being able to have a choice is important in a game after all. PS. I'm not talking about mission counter reset, I'm talking about mission requirements reset ( change ). I was in the same situation as you, but decided to jump onto the DD line to complete them. It was interesting to play that class for a while and learn them and get experience of what it takes to play a DD, which I suspect maybe the reason why WG gives you these kinds of missions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #3 Posted August 19, 2015 I was in the same situation as you, but decided to jump onto the DD line to complete them. It was interesting to play that class for a while and learn them and get experience of what it takes to play a DD, which I suspect maybe the reason why WG gives you these kinds of missions. [edited]that and all that stand for, i have been running with DD's and jap cruisers trying to get 4 torp hits in single battle and my current mission counter is 26 tries and nothing, at most i manage with extreme luck and frustration get 3 hits, i am seriously considering torping my own team just to see if that might complete the mission. It is extremely frustrating to have one mission constantly filled with and not being able to complete it, i don't even like playing DD and there is nothing interesting or rewarding to need to play a ship class just to try to get that one mission when it would be so simple to just add posibility to abandon missions which you don't want or just can't complete. It makes a fuckton of sense to try to have mission realated to you'r ships, like deal X ammount of dmg with your main guns, or sink X number of ships, ect ect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] kiteohatto Players 253 posts 1,986 battles Report post #4 Posted August 19, 2015 Do torp bombers count towards the kills ? If so, could be an easy way to get it done.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ODIUM] Synth_FG Players 551 posts 15,194 battles Report post #5 Posted August 19, 2015 I was in the same situation as you, but decided to jump onto the DD line to complete them. It was interesting to play that class for a while and learn them and get experience of what it takes to play a DD, which I suspect maybe the reason why WG gives you these kinds of missions. Indeed, Even if you play primarily as a BB or CC commander, having a tier 1 DD not only allows you to play with these missions, it also gives you another perspective on these little toys, their limitations and how best to keep them away from you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F_D] Adwaenyth Alpha Tester 1,194 posts 6,218 battles Report post #6 Posted August 19, 2015 Do torp bombers count towards the kills ? If so, could be an easy way to get it done.... It reads SHIP torpedo hits, so my guess would be no. [edited]that and all that stand for, i have been running with DD's and jap cruisers trying to get 4 torp hits in single battle and my current mission counter is 26 tries and nothing, at most i manage with extreme luck and frustration get 3 hits, i am seriously considering torping my own team just to see if that might complete the mission. It is extremely frustrating to have one mission constantly filled with and not being able to complete it, i don't even like playing DD and there is nothing interesting or rewarding to need to play a ship class just to try to get that one mission when it would be so simple to just add posibility to abandon missions which you don't want or just can't complete. Well if you don't like DDs, then don't play them. Other than that, especially on T2-4 you can easily get 4+ torp hits in any torp equipped ship. Usually a mission like that is done in 2 or 3 battles, if you know what you're doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #7 Posted August 20, 2015 It reads SHIP torpedo hits, so my guess would be no. Well if you don't like DDs, then don't play them. Other than that, especially on T2-4 you can easily get 4+ torp hits in any torp equipped ship. Usually a mission like that is done in 2 or 3 battles, if you know what you're doing. Yeah right, i don't know in what server's or regions you'r playing but every time i am trying to do this in T3 with jap DD or cruisers i play against ppl who are bloody MLG pros, 24/7 pro developers, pro alpha tester so yeah... don't come telling me this is done in 2 to 3 battles. i see a ship with guns aimed away from me, less that 4.5 kliks away, shoot torp with the prediction lines and nothing, not jack crap, not one of my torps hit, not with high spread or small. me or other ppl trying to get this shitty mission is not contributing to the team battle, did you consider that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thlurp Beta Tester 463 posts 1,731 battles Report post #8 Posted August 20, 2015 with your attitude i'm not surprised.... try this: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/25215-how-to-hit-with-your-torpedoes-illustrated/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #9 Posted August 20, 2015 The purpose of daily misions is that players play more as one techline. So if you want to complete them you should play some vessels with torpedo's. It is also good to get knowledge about gameplay of vessels you normally don't play. You can use this to counter those ships with your "main" vessels. An reset funtion will be a bad idea. The misions are not that dificult. If you have three torpedo misions you can even forfill them all at once. Just come out of your comfort zone, your overall gameplay will benefit from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #10 Posted August 21, 2015 with your attitude i'm not surprised.... try this: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/25215-how-to-hit-with-your-torpedoes-illustrated/ Yeah it's my attitude thats the problem here, maybe you can understand i am a little salty, just a little, after trying to complete that 4 ship torp hits for over a month now, yeah its absolutely frustrating. Thank's atlest for the link, mayde by the end of they year i might have 3 missions to select from. The purpose of daily misions is that players play more as one techline. So if you want to complete them you should play some vessels with torpedo's. It is also good to get knowledge about gameplay of vessels you normally don't play. You can use this to counter those ships with your "main" vessels. An reset funtion will be a bad idea. The misions are not that dificult. If you have three torpedo misions you can even forfill them all at once. Just come out of your comfort zone, your overall gameplay will benefit from it. Countering other ships has nothing to do weather i have played them or not, if i know how that are played that more than enough info to know how to avoid torp's from ships or planes, angle yr ship not to show broadside to battleship, where to aim to get citadels ect ect... i remember when i fought in T3 battleship against a T4 cruiser, when i saw him sailing in a retletively staright line compared to me i was ' if those are not torps coming my way i don't know what is' i immedeatly reduced speed and turned hard to right towards and what you know torps passed me by miles, i had no previous experience about shooting cruiser torp the 'point' of having ppl play multiple lines of vessels is kinda off, since if you can do all with barely passing skill, a guy who has dedicated himself to say battleship will defeat you 9 time out of 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F_D] Adwaenyth Alpha Tester 1,194 posts 6,218 battles Report post #11 Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Yeah it's my attitude thats the problem here, maybe you can understand i am a little salty, just a little, after trying to complete that 4 ship torp hits for over a month now, yeah its absolutely frustrating. Thank's atlest for the link, mayde by the end of they year i might have 3 missions to select from. Countering other ships has nothing to do weather i have played them or not, if i know how that are played that more than enough info to know how to avoid torp's from ships or planes, angle yr ship not to show broadside to battleship, where to aim to get citadels ect ect... i remember when i fought in T3 battleship against a T4 cruiser, when i saw him sailing in a retletively staright line compared to me i was ' if those are not torps coming my way i don't know what is' i immedeatly reduced speed and turned hard to right towards and what you know torps passed me by miles, i had no previous experience about shooting cruiser torp the 'point' of having ppl play multiple lines of vessels is kinda off, since if you can do all with barely passing skill, a guy who has dedicated himself to say battleship will defeat you 9 time out of 10. Yes, your attitude is the problem actually. When you are angry, you will make a lot of mistakes simply because you don't think things through anymore when you are angry. Why do you think people taunt each other in professional sports like football? Playing a competetive video game is btw. nothing different than any other aspect of your life you want to achieve success in. You always need training and mental focus. Talent helps a bit, but in the end, it is the will to learn and overcome obstacles that makes you perform well. If you are unwilling to learn how to play DD or CA, that is your descision. Do not be surprised however, that you then do not perform well playing those when you "need" to. /edit: Btw. I too have only 11% torpedo hitrate. However, I do manage to complete the mission on a regular basis. Just stay alive long enough to dump 40 torps and in an average game you have 4 torp hits. Yesterday I played 3 battles in the Hatsuharu, 11, 5 and 6 torp hits, so each of these battles would easily have qualified for completing the mission. It's not impossible task to do so. Edited August 21, 2015 by Adwaenyth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #12 Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah it's my attitude thats the problem here, maybe you can understand i am a little salty, just a little, after trying to complete that 4 ship torp hits for over a month now, yeah its absolutely frustrating. Thank's atlest for the link, mayde by the end of they year i might have 3 missions to select from. Countering other ships has nothing to do weather i have played them or not, if i know how that are played that more than enough info to know how to avoid torp's from ships or planes, angle yr ship not to show broadside to battleship, where to aim to get citadels ect ect... i remember when i fought in T3 battleship against a T4 cruiser, when i saw him sailing in a retletively staright line compared to me i was ' if those are not torps coming my way i don't know what is' i immedeatly reduced speed and turned hard to right towards and what you know torps passed me by miles, i had no previous experience about shooting cruiser torp the 'point' of having ppl play multiple lines of vessels is kinda off, since if you can do all with barely passing skill, a guy who has dedicated himself to say battleship will defeat you 9 time out of 10. Congrats you know the very first principles of the game. It is rather sad that you think that with that knowledge you can counter the other classes. A great player will always play multiple classes, not to the same extend as his dedicated class. You can't be great when you don't know your oponents. But maybe you are the exception to the rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #13 Posted August 21, 2015 Yes, your attitude is the problem actually. When you are angry, you will make a lot of mistakes simply because you don't think things through anymore when you are angry. Why do you think people taunt each other in professional sports like football? Playing a competetive video game is btw. nothing different than any other aspect of your life you want to achieve success in. You always need training and mental focus. Talent helps a bit, but in the end, it is the will to learn and overcome obstacles that makes you perform well. If you are unwilling to learn how to play DD or CA, that is your descision. Do not be surprised however, that you then do not perform well playing those when you "need" to. /edit: Btw. , so each of these battles would easily have qualified for completing the mission. It's not impossible task to do so. For [edited]sake did i ask a preach session about life and how to go about it or how it's related to the game or it's learning curve? olso Hatsuharu? thats a TIER 7 ship with 10 klik torp range, im going about this with T3 Wakatake or T3 Tenruy with both having only 7klik torp range, get off you'r high horse, ofc it is vastly easier for you to do this in a higher tier ship with greater performance. How do you suggest with you'r broad experience of dumping 40 torp's per battle, that i should proceed with my trying to complete this sniper quest? The way i go about this is to stick to cover of island or pop smoke, AA turned off, either trying to flank an engaged ships or trying to find straglers, trying to stay undetected (though i have 6.1 km surface detection range) and get my torp's from 5 km to give them less time to turn their ships. It is prettyhard to fire 7km range torp when you are detected from 6.1km, even if that happen, enemy will have plenty of time to either just unknowingly sail just that way you'r torp will miss or they detect you and just dodge torp, where as you'r 10km torp and only 6.7km surface detection range gives you lets say a more of an 'long term' invest in those torps (which you fire 3 at a time btw) and with upgraded topr which gain a signifigant speed increase from stock, need i say more that i kind feel you'r advice/statistics I too have only 11% torpedo hitrate. However, I do manage to complete the mission on a regular basis. Just stay alive long enough to dump 40 torps and in an average game you have 4 torp hits. Yesterday I played 3 battles in the Hatsuharu, 11, 5 and 6 torp hits are worthless. If you really wish to provide either constructive critique or coaching in game i appreciate it and will take it, but please stick in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #14 Posted August 21, 2015 Congrats you know the very first principles of the game. It is rather sad that you think that with that knowledge you can counter the other classes. A great player will always play multiple classes, not to the same extend as his dedicated class. You can't be great when you don't know your oponents. But maybe you are the exception to the rule Granted didn't consider from that perspective, however never did i claim that i knew how to counter other ships, the story i set in my previous was more of an happy accident than really skill based i'l admit it. and never have i admired to be great player in game, just find a satisfying and fun gameplay, which this sniper quest is hampering. But i will argue to a point if you know how other ship types are played, even if you personally haven't touched them much or at all you still have very good chance of countering them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKIDZ] chazwozza Players 1,030 posts Report post #15 Posted August 21, 2015 Playing only one type of ship class puts you at a disadvantage IMO as you have no idea of what the other guys ship is capable of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finplayer321 Players 12 posts 2,777 battles Report post #16 Posted August 22, 2015 Playing only one type of ship class puts you at a disadvantage IMO as you have no idea of what the other guys ship is capable of But if you master you'r ship class, let's say Battleship and you know how other ships will perform and act when faced agains you'r ship, either by reading from wiki, from youtube channels like ichase or jingles or from small personal experience, imo you are still very capable of contesting against them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebeldad1 Players 58 posts 65 battles Report post #17 Posted August 22, 2015 So want to say something but think it would not be helpful. I also would suggest messing around with more than just the cruiser class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combattank Players 55 posts 2,522 battles Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2015 I'm sick of playing DDs, just does not suit my playstyle. So yes, need at least abort option to discard current mission just to prevent being stuck with 3 torp missions for rest of life! Or just rework the missions, so they can be completed with any kind of ship. Also notice that torp missions are the only ones that need a specific ships to complete. (Except maybe a few ships that can't complete the AA mission on low tier) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Orlunu Alpha Tester 1,427 posts 923 battles Report post #19 Posted September 26, 2015 I'm sick of playing DDs, just does not suit my playstyle. So yes, need at least abort option to discard current mission just to prevent being stuck with 3 torp missions for rest of life! Or just rework the missions, so they can be completed with any kind of ship. Also notice that torp missions are the only ones that need a specific ships to complete. (Except maybe a few ships that can't complete the AA mission on low tier) Well, the whole point of the missions is to get you to play different types. Not playing different types leading to not completing them is how it should be. AA missions with IJN DDs aren't a thing, not by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #20 Posted September 26, 2015 I agree, there should be a reset to missions. I had not completed a single mission for 2 months, until I accidently completed 2 of them with Murmansk, when I decided to get close and personal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ewokgod Players 73 posts 2,881 battles Report post #21 Posted September 26, 2015 Don't think we need to reset missions, but it might be better if the missions had slightly better rewards, were tailored to reinforce areas in which a player is lacking experience or intention, and scaled to the tier you are currently playing at. For example, a mission to shoot down x aircraft is easy in a T5 CV or T6 Cruiser, but hard to achieve when the highest ship you have is a T3 cruiser (happened to me. Only cleared it when I got to the Phoenix, and I just parked myself over a recently killed enemy carrier and farmed the circling planes). A compromise is to treat the missions like a hand of cards, maybe. Every 24h, you get a mission, right? If you have all three missions yet to do, the system generates a fourth mission after 24h and you are allowed to swap one of the missions in your "hand" for the new one. This gives the player the chance to swap out one mission for another every 24h. In this way, the player is still given some incentive to try out different play styles, but you don't end up with 3 impossible missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DestoryerO_o Beta Tester 188 posts 384 battles Report post #22 Posted September 27, 2015 In my case, i just stopped paying attention to missions.. The rewards worthless. IMO. I'm not gonna troll myself with playing classes i don't like to play for little silver and equivalents of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #23 Posted September 27, 2015 Well there are the 500 free xp mission which are equivalent to getting 10000 regular exp or converting elite/premium ship xp for 20 dubloons. I ignored it lately, getting 3 torpedoe hits with a cruiser is a gamble .... more often than not 1 or 2 will finish the job .... or you are just landing stray hits ..... Also I did play mostly BB; and getting rid of Bogue ..... not helping either. Now that russion DDs and german CAs are comming i bought myselves a T2 IJN DD ..... I suck with them due to a lack of experience, but at least of I completed one of my 3 torpedoe missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #24 Posted September 27, 2015 I agree, there should be a reset to missions. I had not completed a single mission for 2 months, until I accidently completed 2 of them with Murmansk, when I decided to get close and personal... Same here the rewards are a bit meh though. I'd like to see more interesting mission rewards. Like a flag you can't get elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combattank Players 55 posts 2,522 battles Report post #25 Posted September 27, 2015 Well, the whole point of the missions is to get you to play different types. Not playing different types leading to not completing them is how it should be. AA missions with IJN DDs aren't a thing, not by far. I did not say anything about completing them, but they should not lock the daily mission feature forever just if I prefer playing certain classes of ships. Hell torp missions cant even be completed by carrier torp bombers, that's racist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites