Fresh_Pickle Players 28 posts 4,308 battles Report post #1 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi. Getting soloed by, well, anything except other BBs is getting very tiring. Dispersion is laughable at all ranges, outside of citadel pens BBs do next to no damage and our turret traverse and rudder shift times make BBs completely painful to play. Also, when a DD is approaching, why are our secondary batteries not ripping it apart? Why do they miss so often? The situation is made worse when you are left without an escort. BBs need buffs to turret traverse and dispersion. inb4 my stats r bad l2p. You all know I'm right. p.s., grinding Colorado atm. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thlurp Beta Tester 463 posts 1,731 battles Report post #2 Posted July 30, 2015 and immunity to torpedoes? maybe? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh_Pickle Players 28 posts 4,308 battles Report post #3 Posted July 30, 2015 and immunity to torpedoes? maybe? Well, euhm, no. But something to make them worth having in a fleet would be a good start. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Jengkins Supertester, Beta Tester 763 posts 8,395 battles Report post #4 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi. Getting soloed by, well, anything except other BBs is getting very tiring. Dispersion is laughable at all ranges, outside of citadel pens BBs do next to no damage and our turret traverse and rudder shift times make BBs completely painful to play. Also, when a DD is approaching, why are our secondary batteries not ripping it apart? Why do they miss so often? The situation is made worse when you are left without an escort. BBs need buffs to turret traverse and dispersion. inb4 my stats r bad l2p. You all know I'm right. p.s., grinding Colorado atm. Great work. You publised the 153785 topic about BB buffs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alalos Players 170 posts 847 battles Report post #5 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi. Getting soloed by, well, anything except other BBs is getting very tiring. Dispersion is laughable at all ranges, outside of citadel pens BBs do next to no damage and our turret traverse and rudder shift times make BBs completely painful to play. Also, when a DD is approaching, why are our secondary batteries not ripping it apart? Why do they miss so often? The situation is made worse when you are left without an escort. BBs need buffs to turret traverse and dispersion. inb4 my stats r bad l2p. You all know I'm right. p.s., grinding Colorado atm. no we dont.. and you did state alrdy whats the problem. kkthxbye these threads getting old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormchaser Beta Tester 97 posts 9,037 battles Report post #6 Posted July 30, 2015 If it helps & you probably know anyway but you can target enemy DD with secondary's just like you can with AA with aircraft ctrl & click on the DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Yorkie_GBR Beta Tester 331 posts 3,883 battles Report post #7 Posted July 30, 2015 I'll address some of your problems, but not the over all Buff BB rant because you're wanting the best of both worlds. In regards to to DD's charging you, do you manually target the DD so your secondaries get the bonus? In regards to escorts, do you ask for escorts or do you rely on PuBs to not play for themselves. Your guns can one shot most targets out there and if you are wanting to increase the turret rotation and reload would you trade that for less alpha damage? I only escort people who either ask for it, or they are in my squadron because doing escort duty brings me in 20% of the reward that I get if I play for myself. And when I do escort Pubs, there are only a few who actually acknowledge the fact and assist in return. What I mean by this is if a BB is targeting me, the player I escort will change their focus to the enemy who is firing on me, you see escorting is a symbiotic relationship. But what really gets my goat about all these "no escorts" threads is that the people who do escort are not acknowledged and called n00bs in chat because they have hardly contributed to the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #8 Posted July 30, 2015 I have no problem playing BBs and I don't think they need buffing aside from one or two specific ships which are underwhelming. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N00b32 Beta Tester 847 posts Report post #9 Posted July 30, 2015 Hi. Getting soloed by, well, anything except other BBs is getting very tiring. i'm soloing CLs in my BBs. But i'm doing it wrong so: - nerf DDs - nerf CVs - nerf CLs - nerf CAs - nerf submarines cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fresh_Pickle Players 28 posts 4,308 battles Report post #10 Posted July 30, 2015 I'll address some of your problems, but not the over all Buff BB rant because you're wanting the best of both worlds. In regards to to DD's charging you, do you manually target the DD so your secondaries get the bonus? In regards to escorts, do you ask for escorts or do you rely on PuBs to not play for themselves. Your guns can one shot most targets out there and if you are wanting to increase the turret rotation and reload would you trade that for less alpha damage? I only escort people who either ask for it, or they are in my squadron because doing escort duty brings me in 20% of the reward that I get if I play for myself. And when I do escort Pubs, there are only a few who actually acknowledge the fact and assist in return. What I mean by this is if a BB is targeting me, the player I escort will change their focus to the enemy who is firing on me, you see escorting is a symbiotic relationship. But what really gets my goat about all these "no escorts" threads is that the people who do escort are not acknowledged and called n00bs in chat because they have hardly contributed to the game. I agree, Yorkie. Escort duty should be rewarding. Part of the problem is BBs tend to stay at max range where they should be getting closer so that the escorts can shoot stuff too. For the rest, ok so I knew it would be to much to ask for replies not being totally sarcastic and demeaning, but I don't feel I'm asking for much. BBs are the least fun/rewarding class to play at the moment and need improvements to their secondary batteries gun performance and their main battery dispersion. Yes there are other balance changes concerning the other classes that are really needed, but I usually manage to have a fun game in the other classes and sometimes even manage to do a decent amount of damage, which I almost never manage in BBs, outside of very rare citadel pens. I don't feel it is asking a lot nor would it break the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParEx Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,449 posts 7,711 battles Report post #11 Posted July 30, 2015 i'm soloing CLs in my BBs. But i'm doing it wrong so: - nerf DDs - nerf CVs - nerf CLs - nerf CAs - nerf submarines cheers You forgot about those islands, i get stuck that often. NURF islands, too. People forget that this is a teamgame where you are dependent on your...well..TEAM. There is no such thing as universal ship that can defeat every other class. You got big guns, lots of HP (survivability) and tons of armor. And now you want to be as fast as a cruiser with similar turret traverse and reaload? kidding me? BBs have always been in need of support, rock, scissors, paper and stuff. A sole BB is a juicy target. Ask Mr. Ariga. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ICI] BDubzZz86 Beta Tester 222 posts 3,622 battles Report post #12 Posted July 30, 2015 Great work. You publised the 153785 topic about BB buffs. Ah lol... you beat me to it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamStarion Players 86 posts 950 battles Report post #13 Posted July 30, 2015 Your guns can one shot most targets out there and if you are wanting to increase the turret rotation and reload would you trade that for less alpha damage? When was the last time you one shotted a full hp ship with a BB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Jengkins Supertester, Beta Tester 763 posts 8,395 battles Report post #14 Posted July 30, 2015 Ah lol... you beat me to it You probably will have another 473 chances to make a reply like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dumbo11 Beta Tester 158 posts 633 battles Report post #15 Posted July 30, 2015 AFAICT BBs are (statistically) fine. They deal more damage than most other ships (which is to be expected as they mostly shoot BBs), and their win-ratio seems to be at a sensible level. However, they are 'unrewarding' due to the huge impact of RNG on individual matches/battles, and they can also be frustrating due to the extremely punishing nature of making a tactical/strategic mistake (or even just bad RNG). But, (aside from the Colorado), the USN BBs are good/great ships and don't need buffing. [i'm ignoring carriers as that's a different discussion] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N00b32 Beta Tester 847 posts Report post #16 Posted July 30, 2015 AFAICT BBs are (statistically) fine. They deal more damage than most other ships (which is to be expected as they mostly shoot BBs), and their win-ratio seems to be at a sensible level. However, they are 'unrewarding' due to the huge impact of RNG on individual matches/battles, and they can also be frustrating due to the extremely punishing nature of making a tactical/strategic mistake (or even just bad RNG). But, (aside from the Colorado), the USN BBs are good/great ships and don't need buffing. [i'm ignoring carriers as that's a different discussion] No.No.No. They need a buff. Problem is even with thousands of buffs BB captains will still drive in torpedos, get citadel hits and miss small targets with constant direction changes. BB captains will demand a buff for Yamato against Isokaze. Just imagine you could fire a torpedo at a Yamato. The impudent alone to have the frivolity to fire a torpedo. At a Yamato. Unbelievable. Nerf Torpedo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Yorkie_GBR Beta Tester 331 posts 3,883 battles Report post #17 Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) When was the last time you one shotted a full hp ship with a BB? Twice on 29th July 2015 As I seldom play BB, and the target was a DD and the other was a CA. Edited July 30, 2015 by Yorkie_GBR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #18 Posted July 30, 2015 When was the last time you one shotted a full hp ship with a BB? That's actually a rather common thing. I do it pretty often. Last time was yesterday, twice. One St. Louis (yes I did, two citadels and four regular hits) and one Phoenix. Gotta love those WTF comments in chat afterwards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnuSuaraj Alpha Tester 665 posts 10,194 battles Report post #19 Posted July 30, 2015 BB's short range dispersion is getting buffed according to the devs on the RU Forums. So now you should be able to kill insolent DDs that go close quarters much better, assuming you can aim, of course. Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Flash Players 8 posts 1,208 battles Report post #20 Posted July 30, 2015 p.s., grinding Colorado atm. I think i found your problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-BY-] RAZ0RLIGHT Players 170 posts 3,487 battles Report post #21 Posted July 30, 2015 BBs simply need a buff to accuracy and shouldnt be so prone to fires imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAMNO] Seinta Beta Tester 857 posts 12,319 battles Report post #22 Posted July 30, 2015 BBs need buffs to turret traverse and dispersion. How about them Cruisers? If accuracy is your problem - get closer If problem persists - learn to aim If DDs are a problem - learn situational awareness Secondaries/AA - Modules and skills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #23 Posted July 30, 2015 I don't seem to have problems with BBs. For some reason I average more damage, kills and wins in them than in DDs and CL/CA's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnboardG1 Beta Tester 202 posts 4,490 battles Report post #24 Posted July 30, 2015 No, they really don't need buffs. What does need buffed are battleship players. Seriously, I see people making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. Sailing broadside to another BB, getting too close, staying too far away, not reading the minimap, ignoring carrier aircraft, sailing in straight lines. Guys, it's not hard. Go where the fight is, stay at 8-15km from the enemy and juke occasionally. You have a class with huge alpha and a way to beat the attrition game. Spend some time learning the ins and outs of citadel locations with the training room mod, learn how your guns perform and where your armor works. And don't be afraid to push when you know the enemy DDs are elsewhere and you can use that armor and repair to bully. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Numbah18 Players 184 posts Report post #25 Posted July 30, 2015 No, they really don't need buffs. What does need buffed are battleship players. Seriously, I see people making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. Sailing broadside to another BB, getting too close, staying too far away, not reading the minimap, ignoring carrier aircraft, sailing in straight lines. Reminds me of the CBT way to much You could add not trying to dodge torps or charging into a DD's smoke cloud to this list. OP I can see where you are coming from. Not really a BB player myself but I have had to struggle through the SC and the Wyoming. My question to you though is what are you going to do to balance things out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites