DD spot range off

[kennydbt]

I think the range you can spot a enemy DD of the same level is a bit off.

Also how come I still cannot see a level 4 DD when he with in 6km of me? when I am in my Cleveland.

No he was not using smoke and I direct line of sight to him. I only did see then some planes come over my why and spotted him for me?

[el_bloom]

because isokaze has detectability below 6km ? Don´t know but even if he pops up at 4 - just change course away from him or into him and kill him ?

Where is the problem with 6km ? He can be dead in one salvo from you....

[Sub_Eleven]

Camo and or commander skill. What kind of dd was it? Got a screenshot? Or a replay?

[Ew_]

kagero can get as close as 5.4KM without getting spotted

But you as a cruiser have a ridicolously long lasting fighter plane, launch it and you have 6 minutes of no DDs getting close.

[chazwozza]

Camo -3% and the captain skill at lvl 5 concealment expert -10% lowers your detection range still further -13% in total so an iso with that goes from 6.1 to about 5.3 I think

so that could explain it abit

[kennydbt]

Camo -3% and the captain skill at lvl 5 concealment expert -10% lowers your detection range still further -13% in total so an iso with that goes from 6.1 to about 5.3 I think

so that could explain it abit

 

thank you skill a bit dam close if you ask me. they need to open the range up a bit.

[Pyro_O]

 

thank you skill a bit dam close if you ask me. they need to open the range up a bit.

 

No they don't need to open it up. As explained above you can wreck him easily with one salvo at that range, or at least knock out his engine or torp launchers. And you're maneuverable enough to avoid his torps even at that range if you react when you spot him. Not when you spot the torps

[ThatOneDidntGoIn]

Camo -3% and the captain skill at lvl 5 concealment expert -10% lowers your detection range still further -13% in total so an iso with that goes from 6.1 to about 5.3 I think

so that could explain it abit

 

I very much doubt the guy had a tier 5 captain skill.

[kennydbt]

 

No they don't need to open it up. As explained above you can wreck him easily with one salvo at that range, or at least knock out his engine or torp launchers. And you're maneuverable enough to avoid his torps even at that range if you react when you spot him. Not when you spot the torps

 

sorry but no they need to fix this just had a game he was firing off his trops at rang I could not see him at all. Even with my fighter up as cover.  turned off 5 times. you cannot hot what you cannot see.

they just dart in a fire then dart out

 

I hit a DD with a full 12 shoot before now and he repaired once and torped me.

 

 

This could be a game killer if it is not fixed.

[Userext]

 

sorry but no they need to fix this just had a game he was firing off his trops at rang I could not see him at all. Even with my fighter up as cover.  turned off 5 times. you cannot hot what you cannot see.

they just dart in a fire then dart out

 

I hit a DD with a full 12 shoot before now and he repaired once and torped me.

 

 

This could be a game killer if it is not fixed.

 

allow me to laugh loudly 

 

Oh boy. Sun hasnt hit you has it?

[kennydbt]

kagero can get as close as 5.4KM without getting spotted

But you as a cruiser have a ridicolously long lasting fighter plane, launch it and you have 6 minutes of no DDs getting close.

 

MMmm must be a bug as I am not see them. My side fighter seem to see them, but not my fighter.

[TheJezna]

 

sorry but no they need to fix this just had a game he was firing off his trops at rang I could not see him at all. Even with my fighter up as cover.  turned off 5 times. you cannot hot what you cannot see.

they just dart in a fire then dart out

 

I hit a DD with a full 12 shoot before now and he repaired once and torped me.

 

 

This could be a game killer if it is not fixed.

 

Every noob feels the same and a large number makes this very thread. Don't worry, it will pass for you to. For your information, being able to launch torps undetected is the core feature of the Japanese Destroyer line, remove that and the class is useless. As for not being able to doge, just try playing a jap DD once and you'll realise that actually hitting stuff with torps is not that easy, and that the slightest change of course or speed the target makes after you fire and until they hit will make your attack miss. Or you can try a US destroyer to see what it's like to play a destroyer that can't fire from outside detection and has to go up close and personal, not for the faint of heart I assure you. So, again, the age old suggestion; Don't sail at constant speed in a straight line applies once again.

[Pyro_O]

 

sorry but no they need to fix this just had a game he was firing off his trops at rang I could not see him at all. Even with my fighter up as cover.  turned off 5 times. you cannot hot what you cannot see.

they just dart in a fire then dart out

 

I hit a DD with a full 12 shoot before now and he repaired once and torped me.

 

 

This could be a game killer if it is not fixed.

 

Let me guess. You don't have the Situational Awareness captain skill (tier 1, lets you know when you're spotted)? If you do have it, then there should be no situation where you get torp'd unknowingly. If you're spotted you should be aware that there's someone spotting you that you cannot see... most likely a destroyer. And he will be most likely launching torpedoes at you. And the torpedoes will be coming towards you soon. You can easily avoid this with a relatively small change of speed or course.

 

If you don't have that skill though... get it. Or be extremely careful when sailing pretty much anywhere, and change course and speed from time to time.

[kerstbal]

the snail is   way ahead in the future

and cloaking will be possible in the future also pffrrrt

they all believe in UFO s

funny is,nt it

 

they never bin at sea(those wonderfull deavs)

the only way a chip is not visible is when it is behind a big wave

also they where always visible on radar (calm waters)

see it this way..... the torps are more visible then the big destroyers (yeah wright)

so this game sucks big time

but please stay believing in ferry tales 

and ohw yeah it is a game and yeah it is me again

there is an old saying :WOT never again .....soon it will be WOWs  never again...(i am waiting for the first pics of it)

 

 

[kennydbt]

 

Let me guess. You don't have the Situational Awareness captain skill (tier 1, lets you know when you're spotted)? If you do have it, then there should be no situation where you get torp'd unknowingly. If you're spotted you should be aware that there's someone spotting you that you cannot see... most likely a destroyer. And he will be most likely launching torpedoes at you. And the torpedoes will be coming towards you soon. You can easily avoid this with a relatively small change of speed or course.

 

If you don't have that skill though... get it. Or be extremely careful when sailing pretty much anywhere, and change course and speed from time to time.

 

Hi I do change course and speed a lot it does not help that much.

Even when you know you been spotted it does not help that much.

you cannot hit what you cannot see.

A one DD can keep 2 or 3 ship busy trying to find him, the noob time team work happens and they trying to cover a BB or a CV.

Why should I help cover a BB or CV when I no XP for can be sunk with seeing the DD at all in the open sea.

I think they need to open the detection rang a bit.

 

 

dodging 5 round of torps is not fun

 

 

I no  point as all right playing a team as you get nothing for it.

 

 

Remember the game needs to fun to play the average player it will slowly die.

 

 

look WOW it lost over 1/2 it plays new players do not stay long in the game all.

[Userext]

 

Hi I do change course and speed a lot it does not help that much.

Even when you know you been spotted it does not help that much.

you cannot hit what you cannot see.

A one DD can keep 2 or 3 ship busy trying to find him, the noob time team work happens and they trying to cover a BB or a CV.

Why should I help cover a BB or CV when I no XP for can be sunk with seeing the DD at all in the open sea.

I think they need to open the detection rang a bit.

 

 

dodging 5 round of torps is not fun

 

 

I no  point as all right playing a team as you get nothing for it.

 

 

Remember the game needs to fun to play the average player it will slowly die.

 

 

look WOW it lost over 1/2 it plays new players do not stay long in the game all.

 

Oh gotta love new players. Buddy you are a newbie. You will learn. You couldnt see hiding TDs in wot. They could fire behind bushes and not be seen. Destroyers arent that hard to fight against. Just go watch some videos of DD players. You will understand how it works.

[kennydbt]

 

Oh gotta love new players. Buddy you are a newbie. You will learn. You couldnt see hiding TDs in wot. They could fire behind bushes and not be seen. Destroyers arent that hard to fight against. Just go watch some videos of DD players. You will understand how it works.

 

LOL I do play WOT and there is a big hiding behind bushes and the open sea.

It get boring and is not fun when no DD and keep dashing in and out without been seen and two CL and BB. even then both CL had there planes up.

 

 

open the spot rang of trops a lot or the rang on the spot rang on the DD.

 

 

right now all of my friends that play WOS think the DD need a rebalance.

 

 

We are still in beta so it might happen. Hell they can just make the reload of trops a lot longer and or only give a small number of them.

[Userext]

 

LOL I do play WOT and there is a big hiding behind bushes and the open sea.

It get boring and is not fun when no DD and keep dashing in and out without been seen and two CL and BB. even then both CL had there planes up.

 

 

open the spot rang of trops a lot or the rang on the spot rang on the DD.

 

 

right now all of my friends that play WOS think the DD need a rebalance.

 

 

We are still in beta so it might happen. Hell they can just make the reload of trops a lot longer and or only give a small number of them.

 

oh my god so newbie so new fresh meat. 

Carry on baby boy. You have a lot to learn. I m sorry i m tired of giving freshman advices on what they must do and what they must not do.

[Varyagi]

 

LOL I do play WOT and there is a big hiding behind bushes and the open sea.

It get boring and is not fun when no DD and keep dashing in and out without been seen and two CL and BB. even then both CL had there planes up.

 

 

open the spot rang of trops a lot or the rang on the spot rang on the DD.

 

 

right now all of my friends that play WOS think the DD need a rebalance.

 

 

We are still in beta so it might happen. Hell they can just make the reload of trops a lot longer and or only give a small number of them.

I don't get this kind of mentality.. Try playing IJN DDs for once (you have 0 plays on DD) and see it from that perspective. The changes you're suggesting will basically make them totally unviable. If you want to be taken seriously, at least put some thought and effort into it..

[kennydbt]

 

oh my god so newbie so new fresh meat.

Carry on baby boy. You have a lot to learn. I m sorry i m tired of giving freshman advices on what they must do and what they must not do.

 

There is no must and must not in any beta game

One of the main points of beta is to help work out over all game balance. What works and what does not.

Do not forget every has there own point of view.

 

 

From what I am seeing most players are okay with having DD pop out from behind a bit of land and trop you, they just do not like been in the open sea and been troped when they cannot even see the DD shooting at them.

 

 

Why should a DD be able to hit and run ships without been seen? in the open sea.

they have small size and speed on there side as well.

 

 

Yes  CL can move out of the way most of the time but BB and CV cannot.

They do not have to balance the DD the way I say, but in the long run they will have to balance them out some how.

 

 

They could add in a radar mod on some hulls. The British Type 79B radar could see surface targets at rangers up 11km. Having the DD flash up once every few seconds or so might be a help. They still have some stealth. land would still give them a place to hind.

[Userext]

 

There is no must and must not in any beta game

One of the main points of beta is to help work out over all game balance. What works and what does not.

Do not forget every has there own point of view.

 

 

From what I am seeing most players are okay with having DD pop out from behind a bit of land and trop you, they just do not like been in the open sea and been troped when they cannot even see the DD shooting at them.

 

 

Why should a DD be able to hit and run ships without been seen? in the open sea.

they have small size and speed on there side as well.

 

 

Yes  CL can move out of the way most of the time but BB and CV cannot.

They do not have to balance the DD the way I say, but in the long run they will have to balance them out some how.

 

 

They could add in a radar mod on some hulls. The British Type 79B radar could see surface targets at rangers up 11km. Having the DD flash up once every few seconds or so might be a help. They still have some stealth. land would still give them a place to hind.

 

If you really think its super easy to play DDs and its not fair try reaching out from the other window. Until you get a shimakaze under your arms i will wait here. Your words dont mean anything to us. Because we went from that road. It doesnt matter how many times you say that road is made of golden. It matters how many people choses that road. It matters what it actually is made of.

 

Go ahead and play with DDs. OK shimakaze is a bit too far target. Lets say hatsuharu alright? Starting from today play with IJNDDs up to hatsuharu. Warning low tiers are powerfull due to enemy just being blind, newbie, you.

 

I mark my word go ahead and play with IJNDDs up to hatsuahru. Have fun at minekaze btw its the best mid tier DD. 

[potjo]

 

 

Yes  CL can move out of the way most of the time but BB and CV cannot.

They do not have to balance the DD the way I say, but in the long run they will have to balance them out some how.

 

 

 

 

so fleet should take care of its BBs and CVs, with escorts around them.

[kennydbt]

 

If you really think its super easy to play DDs and its not fair try reaching out from the other window. Until you get a shimakaze under your arms i will wait here. Your words dont mean anything to us. Because we went from that road. It doesnt matter how many times you say that road is made of golden. It matters how many people choses that road. It matters what it actually is made of.

 

Go ahead and play with DDs. OK shimakaze is a bit too far target. Lets say hatsuharu alright? Starting from today play with IJNDDs up to hatsuharu. Warning low tiers are powerfull due to enemy just being blind, newbie, you.

 

I mark my word go ahead and play with IJNDDs up to hatsuahru. Have fun at minekaze btw its the best mid tier DD.

 

Oh I given DD a try it is not that hard to get a kill with them at all. just keep at rage and trop away, you will hit in something in the end.

You might like the try BB till you get the Yamamoto and then see how you feel.

 

 

 

 

[Userext]

 

Oh I given DD a try it is not that hard to get a kill with them at all. just keep at rage and trop away, you will hit in something in the end.

You might like the try BB till you get the Yamamoto and then see how you feel.

 

Its easy to play battleships. You played only 26 battles yeah you surely given DDs a try

[kennydbt]

 

Its easy to play battleships. You played only 26 battles yeah you surely given DDs a try

 

You seam to spend more time on the forum than playing the game. only 6 BB game under your belt.