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Ya, im done with this game aswell.

 

Only played 220 games or so with a wr of 54%. Been playing mainly US bb line cause they looked to be very interesing, ohh boy was i wrong.

 

Reason im leaving? balance is completely out of wack in this game. Like BB's are supposed to kill cruisers right, yet i find myself more than often trying to keep a good distance to everything but other BB's and CV's, With the current mechanics for HE and AP shells, cruisers will just overpower me with HE rounds from from their max range while dodging and weawing making them hard to hit. Sure, im not the best gunner out there, but the huge dispersion on like the colorado bb just makes it a matter of luck it i hit or not, and then we gotta hope for some shots that dont do 1k dmg. 

 

And dont even get me started on CV's, more than once i have gone into a battle to be the 1st guy manual dropped to pieces within 2 mins.. Stay with cruisers u say? say u need AA cover u say? Ya, i do that, but if i am starting left on map and everyone goes right, u are tough out of luck.

 

Also, why the hell are others allowed to see in my ships stats in startup screen, thats just BS. Just makes the carrier on the other team go "Hey this dude got no AA, lets go get a free kill" lolz, where is the balance in that.

 

And hey i could be allright with all of this, as long as it gets fixed, cause this game is beautiful, i love watching the awesome ship models up close, and the sounds of the BB guns going off.. Just love it. 

 

But this is a PVP game, and balance is everything, and here it comes. Instead of wasting loads of time making premium ships, fix the horrible balance issues at hand. I was stunned when i saw the patch notes for the last patch, i was surely expecting that some of the balance issues to be addressed, but no, lets make a cash grab and annouce this awesome new premium ship we are working on.

 

So GG and have fun guys.. For u dedicated fans out there, u have my deepest respect.

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Kthxbye

 

Didn't like it so I haven't read it...

 

 

I saw you mentioned balance, go back to WoT than and enjoy the "balance". I've played WoT first time after two months and all I can say is WoWs seem even more balanced to me right now...

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Just ignore the trolls above.

 

Balance issues are mainly caused by unfair matchmaking. 

1 vs 2 CVs, 1vs0 CVs, differently tiered CVs (with fighters dealing up to 4x as much dps)

 

Once WG gotten their braincells to work they might figure it out and all can be well. The main problem with the above is IJN CVs with strike setup. In my opinion US CVs are way better balanced gameplay wise than those IJN ones. Even if one US CV targets you, if you know what you are doing, you can dodge quite some torps. And the planes need actual service time.

 

Don't give up hope just yet.

 

Only ragequit when you start playing the colorado :p

 

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No please don't go. You were the most valuable player and the game will die without you. Please. Don't let that happen. It will never be the same again without you. 

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tl;dr

No one will miss you :sceptic:

 

That's why he's leaving, cruisers with HE and carriers with torps just didn't miss him enough :(
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Ignoring the trolls above.. i have to say the main reasons for people leaing the game are:

1.WOT noob players which makes teams an absolute mindless lemming horde

2.Extremely unfair mm-which really screws teams up with their fair balance among the ships

3.Constant fidling with people's AA armament-i remember that in alpha BB's AA guns were very useful,they would knock out planes and actually be of some use,but now after they got nerfed(a lot) a lot of bb's AA armament is just plain laughable(they don't activate until too late and when they do the hit ratio is pathetic,the only bb's in which i actually take planes down are:Warspite and sometimes Fuso the rest no,and i'm not even talking about low tier americans)

4.THE MIGHTY HE SPAMFEST-the developers are sadist which enjoy seeing ships burning to death :amazed:-why don't they increase He damage,and module damage and reduce the fires i will never know

 

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My 2 cents to this : Battleships get super accurate killing machines at tier 7 and above so you better keep your range or get oneshotted in your cruiser.

If they were so accurate in lower tiers the whine would be unbearable. IMHO they´re (kinda) balanced. 

 

* if you find yourself getting spammed by multiple cruisers your planning went somehow wrong, too.

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Ignoring the trolls above.. i have to say the main reasons for people leaing the game are:

1.WOT noob players which makes teams an absolute mindless lemming horde

2.Extremely unfair mm-which really screws teams up with their fair balance among the ships

3.Constant fidling with people's AA armament-i remember that in alpha BB's AA guns were very useful,they would knock out planes and actually be of some use,but now after they got nerfed(a lot) a lot of bb's AA armament is just plain laughable(they don't activate until too late and when they do the hit ratio is pathetic,the only bb's in which i actually take planes down are:Warspite and sometimes Fuso the rest no,and i'm not even talking about low tier americans)

4.THE MIGHTY HE SPAMFEST-the developers are sadist which enjoy seeing ships burning to death :amazed:-why don't they increase He damage,and module damage and reduce the fires i will never know

 

 

what do you mean with the AA hit ratio is pathetic? please explain

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Just ignore the trolls above.

 

 

Only ragequit when you start playing the colorado :p

 

Calling me a troll, but ur telling him Colorado is bad?

 

Its a great ship with big caliber guns, but requires a bit different approach than the other ships of that branch :playing:

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what do you mean with the AA hit ratio is pathetic? please explain

I had some games in my Nagato,Fuso,Kongou where literally over three squadrons would fly over me constantly and my aa would kill maybe MAYBE 3 of them and then i remeber in alpha where in the same situation i would do double or more.If more than three squadrons(american or japanese) fly over me constanlty i excpect to inflict some damage not just make them laugh at me and my battleship without cover because my teammates are to smart to cover their allies and they die like cattle.Only ship in which i have had games where my AA would do something was in Warspite and that would be when they were tier lower planes or the same tier.But i don't find this much big of a problem to me,bigger problems are the fires,which can really piss me off,and the lemmings.I had multiple games where my team would literally go full lemming and would lose against 4 players and i would go on other side and would get raped by multiple ships,or would kill them all:(

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Well i kinda agree on parts of what OP says.

 

I still think WG should give blizzard a call and ask them how to balance stuff.

 

CVs are not improving gameplay in high tiers in current state. To easy for them.

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I had some games in my Nagato,Fuso,Kongou where literally over three squadrons would fly over me constantly and my aa would kill maybe MAYBE 3 of them and then i remeber in alpha where in the same situation i would do double or more.If more than three squadrons(american or japanese) fly over me constanlty i excpect to inflict some damage not just make them laugh at me and my battleship without cover because my teammates are to smart to cover their allies and they die like cattle.Only ship in which i have had games where my AA would do something was in Warspite and that would be when they were tier lower planes or the same tier.But i don't find this much big of a problem to me,bigger problems are the fires,which can really piss me off,and the lemmings.I had multiple games where my team would literally go full lemming and would lose against 4 players and i would go on other side and would get raped by multiple ships,or would kill them all:(

ok its just that you mention their Hit ratio and that sounded like you were saying that missed and that is not possible with the way AA works but i cant remember Nagato, Fuso or Knongos exact AA stats but i dont think it is very good.

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I had some games in my Nagato,Fuso,Kongou where literally over three squadrons would fly over me constantly and my aa would kill maybe MAYBE 3 of them and then i remeber in alpha where in the same situation i would do double or more.If more than three squadrons(american or japanese) fly over me constanlty i excpect to inflict some damage not just make them laugh at me and my battleship without cover because my teammates are to smart to cover their allies and they die like cattle.Only ship in which i have had games where my AA would do something was in Warspite and that would be when they were tier lower planes or the same tier.But i don't find this much big of a problem to me,bigger problems are the fires,which can really piss me off,and the lemmings.I had multiple games where my team would literally go full lemming and would lose against 4 players and i would go on other side and would get raped by multiple ships,or would kill them all:(

 

Played my Cleveland today. First match I escorted a BB while a torpedo squad came over me and I shot 1 plane, he dropped his torpedoes on the BB and flew back over me where I shot another plane for a total of 2... I laughed.

Next match 2 squads of bombers and 1 squad of torpedo plane dropped on me... guess how many planes I shot down...0. Keep hearing the Cleveland has OP AA. I'm lost for words.

 

 

The lemming teams in the last two days have left me gob-smacked. One match the hole team and I kid you not, all hid behind an Island at C cap - forget the name. They stayed there the hole match and got picked off one by one... you would have to see it to believe it.... makes me very frustrated to be in these teams. Couldn't communicate with them because I did not understand the lingo.

 

 

To the OP, I totally understand your frustration. Edit: about the last patch, I thought the exact same thing as you. Not looking good is it.

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At the moment, the only thing who saves GW from complete fail and backrupcy is:

 

...there is not another game about sXX ships yet:unsure:

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At the moment, the only thing who saves GW from complete fail and backrupcy is:

 

...there is not another game about sXX ships yet:unsure:

 

are you sure this is about ships?  it feels in need of a re brand to World of Torpedo Bombers 
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are you sure this is about ships?  it feels in need of a re brand to World of Torpedo Bombers 

 

No No No... you are all wrong........ This is the new replacement for world of warplanes....
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Cleveland with the right captain skills is good at killing aircraft

I just took out an entire squad of 6TBs used the AA skill on the ship and bingo all dead hehe

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ok its just that you mention their Hit ratio and that sounded like you were saying that missed and that is not possible with the way AA works but i cant remember Nagato, Fuso or Knongos exact AA stats but i dont think it is very good.

 

I don't think they are anything special either but i clearly remember that in alpha and closed beta my AA guns on that ships were more effective but now i am even wondering why do i have them, for taking one or to planes per 3 squadrons..i don't think so (this is the 4th time i'm grinding yamato i grinded him in weekend testing,alpha,CBT and now so i played every ship in that line a lot so i think i have at least some knowledge on how they were and how they are now).I'm currently stuck on Nagato and i frankly lost all will to play the game,i really like the game but,the lemmings,the fires,the matchmaking,and now constant idiots which only whine and [edited] in chat during the whole game are also annoying and i don't have the willpower to play it.As wows progresses durig the fases i get the feeling that it's progressing in the opposite direction.I would rather go back to alpha wit waiting time of 5min and a small number of teammates and play some normal games than this
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Ignore the idiots here, u will be missed. U have very good critizism and I understand your anger completely - as for myself Im not ready to give up on this unpolished gem.

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Kthxbye

 

Didn't like it so I haven't read it...

 

 

I saw you mentioned balance, go back to WoT than and enjoy the "balance". I've played WoT first time after two months and all I can say is WoWs seem even more balanced to me right now...

 

 

WoT is like 100x better balanced than WoWs atm. And im really not sure if I am exaggerating with this number. At all.

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No please don't go. You were the most valuable player and the game will die without you. Please. Don't let that happen. It will never be the same again without you. 

 

Be as sarcastic as you want, but this is a big problem.

Not him leaving personally and making this thread.

But for him making a thread how many players left for the same reasons without announcing their department?

 

He only played some 200ish games and left.

His first impression of the game was a disappointment and first impression is everything.

 

He has a point about the game balance, it is bad at the moment.

Low tier is ruled by CV and DD, and a lot of sealclubbers making easy money cause of a non forgiving economy system.

Mid tier. Cruisers rule here and DD's become obsolete.

High tier. Finally BB's begin to get fun to play

All tiers. CV's are a mess. MM can't seem to get a balance with them for some reason.

 

If you follow review sites WoWS has a name of a potentially great game but due to balance issues not really worth the time.

 

At this moment it seems the number of online players is still growing a little bit but a lot of people leave the game in low tier.

And if you ask them why they stop playing, they all give the same reason as our OP here.

 

Just looking at the number of online players you should see there is little growth for a big title like this.

 

 

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First of all its a pity that you leave.:(

 

Second and most importand of all its all a matter of a personal point of view.I find some things you say right and some of them kinda "meh"

 

I acknowledge that mm right now is absolutely drunk.Now about the CV's its not as extreme as you think it is.A great portion  of the Cv playerbase have below average scores (1100 avg exp etc).

 

Game unbalanced? Yes.   Remember that WOT is unbalanced too after 5 years of existence. I remember the OBT of Wot and its absolutely atrocious mm.Compared to that,WOWS is like a jewel:P

 

I hope you weigh your chances and giving it a second try in the future.

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