Don't even think about it...

[AnuSuaraj]

Don't even think about making the legendary Bismarck some pricey premium and make it suffer the same humiliation as the Lowe...

 

Firstly, let me clarify. I am an Alpha tester and have played all the lines/ships by now, and have consequently decided to stick with destroyers. I found the agility, the freedom of movement, and the sweet anticipation of torpedo hits/kills to be the most fun I can have in this game.

 

With that said, I find it worrying that no one from WG or the devs has responded to the growing number of questions in terms which of the two German BBs currently being tested (Tirptiz and Bismarck) will be the premium.

 

Logically, it should be the Tirptiz since the Bismarck is an instantly recognizable icon that can potentially attract thousand of new players to the game, the same way the Tiger tree has attracted thousands to WoT.

 

Financially it would also make more sense for the Bismarck to be the regular as many will expend loads of gold and free XP to grind up to the legendary Bismarck, roughly the same amount that could be made by prostituting the Bismarck in the Premium shop.

 

Honestly, WG would be shooting themselves in the foot if they opened their new naval game with the following:

 

WG: "Come play our new naval game..."

Potential customer: "Can I play the legendary Bismarck?"

WG: "Sure you can. That'll be ten bucks..."

 

With that said, this is not my main complaint. Remember, I will not be playing the Bismarck whether it's a premium or not.

 

It is the principle of the thing that bothers me, namely the shameless, cold-hearted, illogical behavior that would ultimately only harm the game in the long run. This move would mean that the developers of this game are actually quite narrowminded and stupid, and I have no desire to play games developed by such nincompoops.

 

I would really like for one of the devs/community reps to weigh in and clear up this issue, because if the decision really is to make Bismarck a premium, I for one would like to know now so that I can stop wasting time on this game, uninstall, and start unrecommending WoWS to everyone I know.

 

One thing I don't tolerate in life is shamelessness.

 

Gracias.

[YukiEiriKun]

Don't even think about making the legendary Bismarck some pricey premium and make it suffer the same humiliation as the Lowe...

 

Have you not been reading the "German Ship something" thread?

Tirpitz has way lower repair costs than Bismarck who's costs are at par with the other tier 8 BB's.

 

So it is safe to assume that Tirpitz is the prem. Since Bismarck (class) ship will be in the TechTree.

[SkeKing]

From what i have been seeing on the forums so far, the Tirpitz will be the premium ship as it got torpedoes and special color(i think?), also, the Tirpitz/Bismark will cost most likely more then 10 bucks .

​Imo, if bismarck will be tier 8 normal ship, i think it will be a Tiger 2 situation most likely where people expect it to be like "history" but in the game the ship/tank is crap.

 

 

 

[AnuSuaraj]

 

Have you not been reading the "German Ship something" thread?

Tirpitz has way lower repair costs than Bismarck who's costs are at par with the other tier 8 BB's.

 

So it is safe to assume that Tirpitz is the prem. Since Bismarck (class) ship will be in the TechTree.

 

Repair costs are a variable that can be modified at any given time.

 

I want a clear cut answer from someone who is employed by WG.

[YukiEiriKun]

Repair costs are a variable that can be modified at any given time.

I want a clear cut answer from someone who is employed by WG.

 

Well .. I dug out the message for you anyway.

I'd say it is pretty trustworthy. But if you want to go to that "can be modified jadda-jadda" line, then fine. For me it clearly seems that Tirp is prem and Biz is in the tech-tree. As it should since she is the name ship of Bismarck class... *duh*

[chazwozza]

Insta bought perms tend to be slightly worse than their grinded equivalent.It would make more sense to have tirpitz in the regular tree and Bismarck as the money spinning prem

[BlackSamBellamy]

Guys, look:

 

-Bismarck is a legendary ship and the reason why many people will join this game.

-To me it is completely clear that WG makes this "must have" ship a premium one.

-Plz remind that this is a free to play game and the development costs several 100 000s to millions of euros. 

-It is absolutely legitime that WG wants to cover those costs and consecutively wants to earn money.

-A new gamer being hot on Bismarck can buy this ship immediately and play it( I want to state here that to me it doesnt make sense without at least a little game experience)

 

 

[OpCentar]

....

Logically, it should be the Tirptiz since the Bismarck is an instantly recognizable icon that can potentially attract thousand of new players to the game, the same way the Tiger tree has attracted thousands to WoT.

 

Financially it would also make more sense for the Bismarck to be the regular as many will expend loads of gold and free XP to grind up to the legendary Bismarck, roughly the same amount that could be made by prostituting the Bismarck in the Premium shop.

 

Honestly, WG would be shooting themselves in the foot if they opened their new naval game with the following:

 

WG: "Come play our new naval game..."

Potential customer: "Can I play the legendary Bismarck?"

WG: "Sure you can. That'll be ten bucks..."

 

...

 

I don't think the potential of free XP to gold conversion is anywhere near the certainty of a lump sum gold price for a premium. So no, the odds are WG would make more money selling the Bismarck as a premium than keeping it in the regular tree.

 

It's the Bismarck, how many germans do you think would instantly buy it for 30 or so €? or if we're feeling particularly greedy, 50€ with about 100 -5% repair cost flags.

 

Also logically the Tirpitz having received upgrades during it's life is a better choice for a regular ship.

 

 

I would still personally like the Bismarck to be nonpremium, however objectively it's a question of balancing the risk of an unknown playerbase reaction vs certain profits from premium sales.

[YukiEiriKun]

Look at the tech trees people.
Do you see Murmansk there? No, there is the Omaha (class).
Do you see Musashi there? No, there is the Yamato (class).

There is the Kongo (class), Fuso (class), Iowa (class).

And there will be the Bismarck (class). Not "Tirpitz", Bismarck.
 

[Mister_Greek]

-A new gamer being hot on Bismarck can buy this ship immediately and play it( I want to state here that to me it doesnt make sense without at least a little game experience)

 

 

And thats the problem,every absolute failer who has no idea about the game will go and get it,

 

"Oh look i have a Bismarck lets try to shoot...Yay i fired a salvo...lets sail straight....Wait whats this beeping sound?...."

 

Do you still believe that the majority of the WG community understand the word "sense"?

 

Unfortunately,if they make Bismarck premium,it will be the "Lowe" of WOWS...

 

 

[Iron_Gekko]

10 bucks?

 

More like 40, and one of them will be prim, it's a "free" game so this is how they make their money, personally don't mind as it is a take it or leave it choice.

[_x_Acheron_x_]

Ten bucks?

 

Wasn't the Lowe like, 40?

 

Edit - Ninja'd ^

[Aldramelech]

I'm not sure what the original post is about? What are you exactly saying? I really don't understand why making anything a premium ship would make you uninstall the game? If you don't like a premium ship, don't buy it, why would it bother you?

 

If your that bothered about which of those ships becomes a premium and which doesn't maybe you need to get out more. Who cares?

[ironhammer500]

They made the Warspite a prem ship, i wouldn't be surprised if HMS hood is one to when the RN is out.

[BlackSamBellamy]

 

 

And thats the problem,every absolute failer who has no idea about the game will go and get it,

 

"Oh look i have a Bismarck lets try to shoot...Yay i fired a salvo...lets sail straight....Wait whats this beeping sound?...."

 

Do you still believe that the majority of the WG community understand the word "sense"?

 

Unfortunately,if they make Bismarck premium,it will be the "Lowe" of WOWS...

 

 

 

There is no problem, it s capitalism. and before giving a reaction to a post read it carefully

[Frank_F_B]

WG has to make money, it is a business. And businesses tend to make profits to succeed their business. So yeah there is that. In that respect it is logical to make a known ship a premium ship to make money.

[AnuSuaraj]

 

WG has to make money, it is a business. And businesses tend to make profits to succeed their business. So yeah there is that. In that respect it is logical to make a known ship a premium ship to make money.

 

No, it isn't logical.

 

They didn't make the Tiger I. a premium, did they?

 

They didn't make the Spitfire a premium, did they?

 

Players want to play a themed game such as WoT/WoWS to get the iconic stuff, without someone forcing them to cough out cash.

 

Having done more research on the Forum, I am pretty sure the Bismarck will be the regular.

[BlackSamBellamy]

 

 

No, it isn't logical.

 

They didn't make the Tiger I. a premium, did they?

 

They didn't make the Spitfire a premium, did they?

 

Players want to play a themed game such as WoT/WoWS to get the iconic stuff, without someone forcing them to cough out cash.

 

Having done more research on the Forum, I am pretty sure the Bismarck will be the regular.

 

You seem to belong to the people who feel themselves in social disadvantage and having the right to get everything as a present disregarding that dozens to hundreds of people work since years to finish that title. WG hasn`t earned even 1 cent until somewhen in the closes beta phase.

 

Not fair, simply barking, ridiculous. 

[Jackobite]

I like your logic but for me, I look at a price, I accept it or reject it.

[Siagor]

 

Having done more research on the Forum, I am pretty sure the Bismarck will be the regular.

 

I think you're wrong.

 

The bottom line of all this is: WG is after our money. And they would earn more if they at first sell you Bismarck for 40-50 E, and then cash more when we convert XP to achieve all the upgrades on Tirpiz.

 

You're right in your OP statement, of course. It is not fair. But then again, were they fair in a WW2 tank game to make Tiger a laughing stock of the tier, or Maus a punching bag for all the nonexistent ultra-fast gold-ammo pests?

 

I feel your point and agree, but they will just cash more this way.

[BlueMoon51]

WG has to make money, it is a business. And businesses tend to make profits to succeed their business. So yeah there is that. In that respect it is logical to make a known ship a premium ship to make money.

 

That would go against their business model that they set up for WOT the vast majority of the premium tanks are tanks that are interesting but not widely known. Its the whole concept that Cinemas use, they themselves make very little money from getting you in to watch Avatar its the popcorn you buy(and the like)that makes them the money, but if you look in the paper it doesn't say come to Showcase Cinemas and eat our popcorn! Making the Bismarck anything other than a ship you can get to in the tiers of the German Line would be a mistake; However, WG haven't done it yet and I for one don't think they will(not unless there is some weird thing like the Tiger and Tiger P in WOT(and yes I know they are both tiered tanks!)   

[AnuSuaraj]

 

You seem to belong to the people who feel themselves in social disadvantage and having the right to get everything as a present disregarding that dozens to hundreds of people work since years to finish that title. WG hasn`t earned even 1 cent until somewhen in the closes beta phase.

 

Not fair, simply barking, ridiculous. 

 

Are you retarded or something?

 

I am a paying customer of Wargaming for three years now.

 

My point was that making Bismarck the premium would be senseless, shameless, and would only hurt the game's profit margin in the long run.

 

Please read my posts prior to posting gibberish.

 

[Naskoni]

 

 

No, it isn't logical.

 

They didn't make the Tiger I. a premium, did they?

 

They didn't make the Spitfire a premium, did they?

 

Players want to play a themed game such as WoT/WoWS to get the iconic stuff, without someone forcing them to cough out cash.

 

Having done more research on the Forum, I am pretty sure the Bismarck will be the regular.

 

 

 

Actually there is a premium Tiger 1 (Japanese) and a premium Spitfire (German). And yes, it is logical. And yes, they are totally going to do it - it's practically already done. Might even get the Tirpitz in the premium shop in a couple of weeks time.

[Coenraad]

Tbh i am afraid it will be 50euros or more. Atago is already over 40 at tier 7.

[Naskoni]

Tbh i am afraid it will be 50euros or more. Atago is already over 40 at tier 7.

 

 

Not for me it isn't... And it's tier 8 not tier 7...