Armor and penetration values please?

[Andreevson]

For such an important aspect of a ship, i feel baffled that armor and gun penetration is left out for us to find OUTSIDE the game..

 

Am I the only one that wants it added ingame? Cmon, please do not tell me too much stats will confuse and scare the casuals. PLEASE.

 

Thank you for your time.

[IamTroublemaker]

Armor values were shown under survivability before, don't know why they removed it...

[Nethraniel]

Armor values were shown under survivability before, don't know why they removed it...

 

Something along the line like "the armor models are so complex, that a single number or number range in Survivability is more missleading than helping"

[BDubzZz86]

 

Something along the line like "the armor models are so complex, that a single number or number range in Survivability is more missleading than helping"

+1...

 

I believe it should be a combination of two things that WarGaming has decided for us to do:

- One being simply angling your armor in certain ways similar to WoT (but not really seeing as you're hardly ever standing still in this game)

- Understanding your enemy's ship and knowing when a target has (extremely) low armor values or very high armor values. 

 

Combine these two factors and you should be good. Also I think that you're safe to assume that the higher the "survivability" value the better/thicker the armor is of a ship.

[Bl4ckh0g]

It will come in due time.

 

You could say Soon^TM

[Nethraniel]

It will come in due time.

 

You could say Soon^TM

 

Armor topographic 3D overlay in port would be perfect (as any 3D game model viewer is able to show).

[Dagon_NOR]

They should just add the armour overlay feature that Gaijin is using in Warthunder.

[YukiEiriKun]

They should just add the armour overlay feature that Gaijin is using in Warthunder.

 

Now this here is a good idea! Have a +1 from me.

[Dagon_NOR]

 

 

Now this here is a good idea! Have a +1 from me.

 

Thanks, well it's not like it would hurt to learn from the competition.

The question is, if it easily done with the engine.

[Staarfury]

Wargaming has never had a habit of presenting players with information about the game mechanics, what makes you think they'll start doing it now?

[Elgerino]

Armor values were shown under survivability before, don't know why they removed it...

 

Actually those values were pretty much worthless. ''Deck 6-210mm'' Okay good so all I know now is that one part of the ship is armoured like paper and another part, possibly some tiny strip of hull is armoured for 210mm. They might as well not bother telling us anything at all and that's the approach they've opted for.

[Bl4ckh0g]

Wargaming has never had a habit of presenting players with information about the game mechanics, what makes you think they'll start doing it now?

 

You know, You could always just type the ship class into google or wikipedia(or even the official game wiki) and check the protection there....

 

It simply takes time to make such feature and It's not a top priority  

[Elgerino]

 

You know, You could always just type the ship class into google or wikipedia(or even the official game wiki) and check the protection there....

 

It simply takes time to make such feature and It's not a top priority  

 

There's not always that sort of information and when there is how do we know the devs haven't opted to simply do their own thing? Do you know how many times the capabilities and armour values of say, Senjo/Zao have changed? Enough times for me to think the specs aren't a hugely important factor for the devs.

 

We need a proper system for seeing the armour as modelled by the game.

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

There's not always that sort of information and when there is how do we know the devs haven't opted to simply do their own thing? Do you know how many times the capabilities and armour values of say, Senjo/Zao have changed? Enough times for me to think the specs aren't a hugely important factor for the devs.

 

We need a proper system for seeing the armour as modelled by the game.

 

They've changed the armor on the Zao, because of that monster called the Des Moines, and there's the thing that the Zao is a design from 1941, It's quite hard to find info about her, However with other ships such as the Cleveland, you can check the armor in wikipedia.

And There's of course the Official Wiki, It says nicely that the Zao has a 203 mm belt armor, now of course that does not say a lot, which is Why they removed it from the game

 

They are probably working on something that can display the armor thickness properly, but that takes time, and You cannot just put a novel about each ship's armor layout in the game.

 

 

I mean like here

 

This is a description about the North Carolina's protection.

 

 

North Carolina and Washington incorporated "all or nothing" armor which weighed 41% of the total displacement; it consisted of an "armored raft" that extended from just forward of the first gun turret to just aft of the rear gun turret. They had a main armored belt that was 12-inch (300 mm) thick amidships, inclined at 15°, and backed by 0.75-inch (19 mm) Special Treatment Steel (STS). This tapered down to 6-inch (150 mm) on the lower edge of the belt. The ships had three armored decks; the main deck was 1.45-inch (37 mm) thick, the second, thickest deck was 5-inch (130 mm), and the third and thinnest deck was 0.62-inch (16 mm) thick. The first deck was designed to cause delay-fuzed projectiles to detonate, while the thicker second belt would protect the ships' internals. The third deck was intended to protect against shell splinters that might have penetrated the second deck; it also acted as the upper support for the torpedo bulkheads. The conning tower was connected to the armored citadel by a 14-inch (360 mm) thick communications tube. Armor thickness for the conning tower itself ranged from 16 inches (410 mm) on both sides to 14.7 inches (370 mm) on the front and rear. The roof was 7 inches (180 mm) thick and the bottom was 3.9 inches (99 mm) thick.^[45][46]

The main battery turrets were heavily armored: the turret faces were 16-inch (410 mm) thick, the sides were 9-inch (230 mm) thick, the rear sides were 11.8-inch (300 mm) thick, and the roofs were 7-inch (180 mm) thick. 16-inch-thick (410 mm) armor was the maximum width factories were able to produce at the time of the ships' design; by 1939, however, it was possible to create 18 in-thick plates. These were not installed because it was estimated that the conversion would delay completion of the ships by 6 to 8 months. The barbettes that held the turrets were also strongly protected. The front portion was 14.7 inches (370 mm), the sides increased to 16 inches (410 mm), and the rear portion reduced to 11.5-inch (290 mm). The 5-inch gun turrets, along with their ammunition magazines, were armored with 1.95-inch (50 mm) STS plates.^[47]

The side protection system incorporated five compartments divided by torpedo bulkheads and a large anti-torpedo bulge that ran the length of the "armored raft". The outer two compartments, the innermost compartment and the bulge would remain empty, while the third and fourth compartments would be filled with liquid. The system was reduced in depth at either end by the forward and rear gun turrets. In these areas, the fifth compartment was deleted; instead, there was an outer empty compartment and two liquid-filled spaces, backed by another empty compartment. To compensate for the reduced underwater protection system, these sections received additional armor plating, up to 3.75-inch (95 mm) in thickness. The complete system was designed to withstand warheads of up to 700 lb (320 kg) of TNT. Underwater protection was rounded out by a triple bottom that was 5.75 ft (1.75 m) deep. The bottom layer was 3 ft (0.91 m) thick and was kept filled with fluid, while the upper 2.75-foot (0.84 m) thick layer was kept empty. The triple bottom was also heavily subdivided to prevent catastrophic flooding should the upper layer be penetrated.^[48]

 

 

See the problem?

 

[Boevebeest]

They should just add the armour overlay feature that Gaijin is using in Warthunder.

 

As i never played warthunder, can you explain what they do that is so good and a option for this game please.

[Elgerino]

 They've changed the armor on the Zao, because of that monster called the Des Moines, and there's the thing that the Zao is a design from 1941, It's quite hard to find info about her, 

 

But that's my point, there's adjustments at every tier and nothing is quite like the real thing. 

 

 They are probably working on something that can display the armor thickness properly, but that takes time, and You cannot just put a novel about each ship's armor layout in the game.

 

I understand it's not easy, but most of the hard work is already done, see the damage model. All you have to do is visualise it. Warthunder is even more complex and they did that just fine. It's just a case of actually giving a crap about it. 

 

 

As i never played warthunder, can you explain what they do that is so good and a option for this game please.

 

It shows you the tank, you position your camera as where the gun is pointed from, then you drag your mouse over the tanks armour where you want the shell to hit. It shows you the armour of the tank and the effective armour you have to punch through at the angle you've positioned. 

 

It also shows you internal components and crew, so you can tell what you'd hit. This is important because in Warthunder, there's no hull HP system. The tank is knocked out when enough of the crew is killed or the tank is critically damaged in some way.

[Karaya1]

They should just add the armour overlay feature that Gaijin is using in Warthunder.

 

Give that person all the +1s. ALL OF THEM.

[Jaeger_Bomb_Meister]

Armor Thickness - The nominal thickness of American and British armor plates are not always equivalent.  This is because of the "40 pound" rule.  A steel plate exactly one inch thick (25.4 mm) and one foot square (30.48 cm sq.) weighs 40.8 lbs. (18.5 kg) for steel with a specific gravity of 7.85 g/cm³.  For convenience and ease of calculating weight and cost, both the USN and the Royal Navy rounded this off as meaning that a plate one inch thick and one foot square weighed 40.0 lbs (18.1 kg).  However, the thickness and weight of armor plate was interpreted and calculated differently by the designers of American and British warships.  The USN specified armor plate by its thickness while the Royal Navy specified it by its weight.  Thus, in the USN a "one inch thick" armor plate was defined as being 1.0 inches thick and thus actually weighed 40.8 lbs. (18.5 kg) per square foot.  In contrast, in the Royal Navy, a "40 lbs. plate" was considered to weigh 40.0 lbs. (18.1 kg) per square foot and thus was nominally 0.98 inches (2.49 cm) thick.  What this means is that when you see an armor thickness on a USN warship given as being 10 inches (25.4 cm) then this means that the plate would have a nominal thickness of 10.0 inches (25.4 cm) but an armor plate on a British warship given as "400 lbs." means that it had a nominal thickness of 9.8 inches (24.9 cm).  Most sources would say that both ships had armor thickness of 10 inches (25.4 cm), but this is not strictly correct as the armor of the British ship would be nominally 9.8 inches (24.9 cm) thick.  However, please note the repeated use of the word nominal in this definition.  The manufacturing of armor plate is a complicated, involved process requiring many different steps with each subject to some level of variability even in the most tightly controlled environment.  USN acceptance standards usually included about a +/- 2.0% thickness tolerance due to this normal manufacturing variability, so USN plates with a nominal thickness of 10.0 inches (25.4 cm) could actually range from 9.8 inches up to 10.2 inches thick (24.9 to 25.9 cm).  The Royal Navy had similar tolerances and when these tolerances are taken into account it can easily be seen that a British "400 lbs." plate on the thick side could actually have a greater thickness than a USN "10-inch plate" on the thin side.

 

Biting Angle - The maximum angle of obliquity where an AP projectile will penetrate an armor plate rather than ricocheting.

 

Armor Penetration Definitions - The ability of an Armor Piercing projectile to penetrate armor is defined as follows:

• Rejected - The projectile fails to penetrate the plate.
• Partial Penetration - For hits of less than 45° obliquity, the forward half of the shell penetrates the armor while the rear half is rejected.  For hits over 45° obliquity, the nose and upper body are rejected while the broken lower body penetrates.  This usually means that the projectile will not explode or will have a low-order detonation, but it will still inflict splinter damage on whatever is behind the armor plate.
• Holing Limit - The maximum thickness of face hardened armor plate that can be damaged by a particular AP projectile.  The projectile itself is rejected, but a plug of armor, usually of the diameter of the striking projectile, is pushed into the ship.
• Naval Limit - The maximum thickness of armor where at least 80% of the projectile penetrates.  Usually this means that the projectile is broken up and will probably not explode, but it will still inflict splinter damage on whatever is behind the armor plate.
• Effective Limit - The maximum thickness of armor a projectile will penetrate relatively intact and still explode as intended.

        

Spall - Fragments broken from either surface of a barrier.  For example, fragments broken from an armor plate as the result of projectile penetration, impact or detonation against the plate.

 

Striking Angle - The angle at which a projectile hits a plate of armor.  Perpendicular, with the axis of the projectile at right angles to the plate, is usually defined as being 90 degrees.  With this definition, the striking angle is then the reciprocal of the angle of obliquity.  In other words, if the striking angle is 50 degrees, then the angle of obliquity is 40 degrees.

 

 

Tip-Off Angle - The tilt of a projectile away from the axis of the gun barrel as the projectile exits the muzzle.  When the bourrelet of a projectile clears the gun muzzle, the front of the projectile is no longer receiving support from the gun barrel while the driving bands continue to support the rear of the projectile.  This means that the force of gravity will try to rotate the projectile about its center of mass, which causes the nose to drop slightly.  This tilting process continues as the projectile emerges from the barrel until the time that the driving bands exit, at which point the projectile is no longer receiving any support from the gun barrel.  The result is that the axis of the projectile is no longer in parallel with the axis of the gun barrel.  In other words, the nose ("tip") of the projectile is slightly askew ("off") from the center or axis of the gun barrel while the base of the projectile is still aligned with it.  Asymmetrical differences in friction around the circumference of the muzzle (caused by erosion, thermal deformation or balloting) and strong cross winds can also produce tip-off forces.  Tip-off angles are generally small, but they contribute to round-to-round dispersion.

 

Base Slap - When an armor piercing projectile hits an armored plate at an angle, there is a tendency for the shell to "yaw" or tilt as it pierces the plate.  This tilt, if large enough, can result in the end of the shell - the base - hitting against the edges of the shell hole.  The impact can cause the shell to break up and thus not detonate properly.  Base slap also refers to when a shell hits a plate at such a large angle of obliquity that it starts to ricochet.  As the nose of the projectile bounces off, the base of the shell slams down onto the armor plate, which again can cause it to break up or detonate prematurely.  See "Hammer Action" below.

Hammer Action - When a shell hits armor plate at a large angle of obliquity (usually about 25 to 30 degrees) there is a tendency for the shell to bend or whiplash as the nose of the shell abruptly slows down before the base does.  This can cause the shell to break up, detonate prematurely or fail to penetrate.  The name comes from the similarity of using a hammer to hit a nail head at an angle, rather than straight on.  The nail usually gets bent over, rather than being driven into the wood.  See "Base Slap" above.

 

Siacci Method - A method of determining approximate ballistic performance developed in the late 1880s by Cornal Francesco Siacci of Italy.  This method is useful only for low-angle trajectories (<15 degrees) and is commonly used today for calculating the performance of rifle-caliber bullets.  The method reduces the calculations for a low-angle trajectory to an easily tabulated quadrature giving distance, time, inclination (flight path angle) and altitude (height) in terms of a "pseudo-velocity".

 

Wild Shot - A projectile that lands abnormally far in deflection or range from the MPI.

 

Concentration Dial or Range Clock - In many ship photographs taken between about 1916 and 1940, there are what appear to be large clocks on the front and rear superstructures or masts.  These are actually devices to tell the other ships in the formation at what range that ship is firing at.  Together with Declination Marks (see below), these mechanisms allowed the other ships in the formation, whose view of the target may be obscured by fog, gun smoke or funnel smoke, to have their guns at the proper elevation and bearing when their view becomes unobstructed.  This greatly reduced the time needed before they were ready to fire.  The introduction of radar and better ship-to-ship communication methods in the late 1930s eliminated the need for these devices and they were removed from most ships by the start of World War II or shortly thereafter.  For the concentration dial shown here, the small hand represents the range in thousands of yards, with 0 = 10,000 yards and 9 = 19,000 yards.  The big hand representsrange in hundreds of yards.

 

Cue Balling - One of the major "sailor alts" (see below) used to increase the rate of fire of 8 inch (20.3 cm) guns on US cruisers of the World War II period.  This involved using the rammer at high speed to strike the projectile and bat it into the breech.  This meant that the rammer did not have to extend and retract past the much shorter and thus faster acting powder bag ram position.  This unofficial loading method increased the ROF of these weapons from the standard 3 RPM up to 5 or 6 RPM, a significant improvement.  The fact that the gun crews were able to do this on a regular basis and not damage the mechanisms is a credit to the designers of the mountings, who over engineered them to be resistant to such abuse.

 

Danger Space - That distance in front of the target, measured parallel to the line of fire, that the target could be moved toward the firing point, so that a shot striking the base (waterline) of the target in its original position would strike the top of the target in its new position.  The flatter the trajectory, the greater the danger space.  See "Hitting Space," below.

Detonation, Low Order - The condition when a bursting charge does not fully combust or combusts inefficiently. This can be the result of a projectile being damaged when striking the target, such as when an AP projectile passes through armor.

 

Drift, Angular - The angle between the bore axis of a weapon and the target. 

 

Hangfire and Misfire - A hangfire is when there is an unexpected delay between when the trigger is pulled and the gun actually fires.  This may be due to a slow burning primer, or, for bag guns, the powder bag may have been loaded backwards or it may have become crooked during loading, so there is a delay while the fire burns from the back of the bag to where the ignition pad is located.  A misfire is when there is a complete failure to fire.  It is impossible to tell a hangfire from a misfire until the gun breech is opened and the ammunition examined.  For bag guns, an ember on the powder bag might smolder for a long time, so it is common practice to wait for 30 minutes before opening the breech.

 

IS or ISE - Initial Salvo Error.  The distance by which the first salvo missed the target.

 

Ladder Salvo - Also called "Ranging Salvo."  When a ship is firing at a target and isn't quite sure of the range, what the gunnery officer will often do is elevate each gun or group of guns slightly differently.  This makes each shell land a little farther along than the last one.  By watching to see which shell hit or landed closest to the target, the range can be determined more accurately.  During the early part of World War II, the procedure used by the new US battleships was to fire all nine guns as a ranging salvo, a typical pattern being one group (three guns from one turret) at 200 yards (180 m) up from the initial range estimate, one group at 200 yards (180 m) down and one group at 400 yards (370 m) down.  There was also a timing difference between groups to avoid confusion between the shell splashes.  Once a bracket had been obtained, thus indicating the correct range, the ship would then switch over to rapid fire, with the guns firing as they were ready.

 

LOF - Line of Fire.  The bearing and elevation you aim the weapon at to deliver fire onto the target's future position.  Same as "Laying the Guns." LOS - Line of Sight.  The direct line between your weapon and the target's present position.

 

Pattern - The pattern of a salvo in range is that distance measured parallel to the line of fire between the shot that lands at the greatest distance from the firing ship and that that lands at the shortest distance, excluding wild shots.  The pattern of a salvo in deflection is the distance measured at right angles to the line of fire between the shot landing farthest to the right and that landing the farthest to the left, excluding wild shots.

 

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

But that's my point, there's adjustments at every tier and nothing is quite like the real thing. 

 

 

I understand it's not easy, but most of the hard work is already done, see the damage model. All you have to do is visualise it. Warthunder is even more complex and they did that just fine. It's just a case of actually giving a crap about it. 

 

Well, to put it quite frankly.

 

It doesn't matter how thick your armor is, because It will be penetrated no matter what.

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/21160-immunity-zones-or-why-your-battleships-armor-isnt-working/

Here this is a nice post about IZs.

 

There's a really nice part in that.

 Battleship Yamato's belt armor was thick enough to protect the ship from the firepower of its own guns at 20 kilometers.  In other words, Battleship Yamato's guns were so powerful that the shell had to fly 20 kilometers before it lost enough kinetic energy to enable Battleship Yamato's armor to withstand the blow.  Beyond 20 kilometers, the shell had lost enough velocity and kinetic energy that it would be unable to penetrate Yamato's belt armor.  Any closer than 20 kilometers, and Yamato's 46cm guns would be able to penetrate Yamato's belt armor. 

 

So

 

One of the best armored BB in the game needs to be farther than 20 km in order to not to get penetrated by it's own guns.

 

This is really similar to nearly all battleships and some cruisers as well.

 

I said that the Zao has a 203 mm belt right? 

Now, the Des Moines gun could penetrate that amount of armor from 14 km http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_8-55_mk16.htm

 

Now, normal combat range in the game is usually below 15-16 km, Which quite simply means that no matter How thick your armor is, It's gonna get penetrated.

You have to angle the ship no matter How thick is your belt armor.

 

So You could say that this isn't a top priority, because It doesn't matter that much, Armor thickness does not tell you anything at all, unless You know the penetration of the enemy guns- you can then have an idea about your IZ, which again is not much since in your IZ is probably starting from something like 15-20 km.

 

Armor is just a nice number on paper, It simply does not influence the game that much.

 

From afar You gonna get bounces, From up close you do not.

Basically that's all there is.

 

Here, The guns on the NC: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_16-45_mk6.htm

From the penetration table We can see, that the NC can deal with Yamato's belt from less than 15 km.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_16-45_mk1.htm

the Colorado can do that from 10 km.

 

But the Yamato's gun can quite easily punch through their belt armor from virtually any range.

 

Which means that It does not matter, how thick is the NC's armor,because It will be penetrated and It doesn't matter how thick the Yamato's armor, since the NC has to close in in order to actually hit the Yamato.

And since both will angle their armor, It is even more futile to know the actual numbers.

 

So, like.

You see Why they do not give this a higher priority right?

 

 

 

 

[Jaeger_Bomb_Meister]

Ammunition Definitions

 

Amatol - An explosive mixture of ammonium nitrate and TNT.

Arrow Shell - A fin-stabilized HE projectile.  In German, "Pfeilgeschoss."

Bag Ammunition - Ammunition in which fabric bags are used to hold the propellant and the projectile is handled separately.  Propellant bags were primarily manufactured from a raw silk also known as "cartridge cloth" or else from a special coarse wool twilled on both sides known as "shalloon."  Unlike cotton, these materials burn without leaving any smoldering residue in the barrel which would present a safety hazard when loading the subsequent round.  Shalloon was used by most nations as it was relatively inexpensive but silk was preferred in the USN as it reduced barrel wear.  Bags made from Rayon rather than silk were used in the USN for some guns after a serious propellant fire aboard USS South Dakota BB-57 in 1945 was traced to a spark generated when a silk bag was removed from its metallic container.

Ballistic Cap - Often called a "windshield," this is a covering on the nose of a projectile which is intended to provide a more streamlined shape for better aerodynamic - ballistic - characteristics.

Ballistic Coefficient - Measure of the ability of a projectile to overcome air resistance.  Ballistic coefficient (BC) = SD / F, where SD is the sectional density of the projectile and F is a form factor for the shape of the projectile.  Sectional density is calculated from the mass (M) of the projectile divided by the square of its diameter.  The value of F decreases with as the pointedness of the projectile increases.  A projectile shaped like a sphere would have the highest F value while one in the shape of a long needle would have the lowest F value.

Ballistic Conditions - Conditions which affect the motion of a projectile in the bore and through the atmosphere, including muzzle velocity, weight of projectile, size and shape of projectile, rotation of the earth, density of the air, elasticity of the air and the wind.

Ballistic Curve - Actual path or trajectory of a projectile.

Ballistic Density - Computed constant air density that would have the same total effect on a projectile during its flight as the varying densities actually encountered.

Ballistic Efficiency - Ability of a projectile to overcome the resistance of the air.  Ballistic efficiency depends chiefly on the weight, diameter and shape of the projectile.

Ballistic Length or Head Length - The length of the projectile's nose.  See "crh" below.

Ballistic Limit - Velocity at which a given type of projectile will perforate a given thickness and type of armor plate at a specified obliquity.  Also see "Armor Penetration Definitions," in Miscellaneous Definitions.

Ballistics, Internal, Intermediate, External and Terminal - Internal Ballistics is the study of what the projectile does from the moment of firing up until it leaves the muzzle of the weapon.  Intermediate Ballistics is the study of the projectile between the time it exits the muzzle until it overtakes the muzzle shock waves and enters normal atmosphere.  External Ballistics is the study of what the projectile does as it travels from the end of the intermediate stage to the target.  Terminal Ballistics is the study of what the projectile does as it strikes the target.

Balloting - The bounding from side to side of a projectile in the bore of a gun.

Base - The after end of the projectile, usually described as that portion between the driving bands and the bottom of the projectile.

Base Bleed - This is a unit on the base of a projectile that generates a gas, something like a tracer. What this does is fill in the vacuum that is created behind a rapidly moving projectile and thus greatly reduces the amount of drag acting on the projectile.  The gas also acts like a long tail, making the projectile more stable in flight.  The end result of these actions is an increase in range and accuracy.

Base Cover - A metal cover that is crimped, caulked or welded to the base of a projectile.  This cover prevents the propellant gasses from coming in contact with the explosive filler of the projectile through possible flaws in the metal of the base.

Base Plug - A removable seal in the base of a shell which holds in the explosive filler.

Belt, Ammunition - Multiple rounds of ammunition that are held together by a strip of fabric or metal.  Used most often for feeding ammunition to automatic weapons.  Ammunition belts may be disintegrating (linked), non-disintegrating or continuous loop.

Blind Shell - A shell containing no explosives or one having its fuzing disabled so that it should not explode.  Often used for proof tests against armor plate.

Boat Tailing - Tapering that part of the projectile behind the driving band to reduce air resistance, especially at low velocities.  This type of design gives a projectile greater range but tends to increase wear on the gun barrel.  It was long thought that boat tailing caused greater dispersion in the impact pattern, but a study published in 1978 by the US Army's Ballistic Research Lab showed that the opposite was true.

Body - The cylindrical portion of the projectile between the bourrelet and the driving bands.  It is machined to a smaller diameter than the bourrelet to reduce the projectile surface in contact with the lands of the bore. The body contains most of the projectile filler.

Booster - An explosive of special character, usually of high strength and high detonating velocity, generally used in small quantities to improve the performance of another explosive, the latter constituting the major portion of the charge and made up of a less sensitive explosive.  Also see "Gaine."

Bourrelet - Finely machined band or ring of metal just behind the ogive of a projectile, designed to support the front portion of the projectile by riding the lands as the projectile travels through the bore of a gun.  Only the bourrelet and the driving bands of a projectile actually touch the rifling.  Some projectiles have additional bourrelets located near the base of the projectile.  On USN large caliber AP projectiles of the World War II period, rear bourrelets were located just before and after the rotating bands.  These additional bourrelets act to reduce the tip-off angle by keeping the projectile body centered in the gun barrel after the forward bourrelet has exited the muzzle.

Brisance and Brisant - Brisance is the measure of how rapidly an explosive develops its maximum pressure.  A brisant explosive is one in which the maximum pressure is attained so rapidly that the effect is to shatter any material in contact with it and all surrounding material.

Bursting Charge - The explosive charge within a shell.  Known simply as "Burster."  Some of the more well-known:

• Black Powder or Gunpowder - Used as the burster in most shells prior to the early years of the twentieth century. A common procedure was to fill the shell cavity with gunpowder or to put the explosive into a loosely-restrained bag at the base of the projectile.  In this latter variation, when the projectile struck the target it was intended that the bag would be torn loose from its restraints and flung forward against the interior of the shell.  In either variation, these projectiles relied upon impact shock to set off the burster.  About as reliable as it sounds, hence the intensive search for better explosives, more reliable fuzing and the interest in the Zalinsky "Dynamite Gun" experiments.

• Composition A - USN burster made from a mixture of 91% RDX and 9% wax.  In use near the end of World War II in a few AA projectiles.

• Composition Exploding or CE - See "Tetryl" below.

• Gun Cotton - See "Propellants" below.

• Explosive D - USN burster made from "Dunnite" which is Ammonium Picrate, a salt formed from picric acid.  Named after its inventor, Lieut.-Col. B. W. Dunn (1860–1936) US Army.  Adopted by the US Navy in 1911, this explosive is very insensitive to shock, giving it a high margin of safety.  This burster was used for almost all USN projectiles until long after World War II.

• Pentolite - A mixture of TNT and PETN, usually 50/50.  This was not as stable as TNT in storage.  Used in some USN 20 mm ammunition during World War II.

• Picric Acid - A trinitrated derivative of phenol or trinitrophenol.  Invented by the German chemist Hermann Sprengel and patented in 1885 by the French chemist Eugène Turpin in pressed and cast form for use in blasting charges and artillery shells.  Picric acid is a powerful explosive but its strong acidity causes it to combine with iron in projectiles.

• • Ecrasite - Austria-Hungary picric acid.
  • Emmensite - USN picric acid.
  • Eversite - Italian picric acid.
  • Lyddite - British picric acid, trinitrophenol.  Prior to 1908, the British used gunpowder as the burster for both AP and Common shells, but after that date Lyddite came into use for HE projectiles.  In 1909, the Royal Navy began experimenting with APC using Lyddite as the burster and began introducing them into service the following year, even though testing had shown that this filling was more sensitive to shock than gunpowder and thus prone to explode prematurely before the shell had a chance to penetrate almost any thickness of armor plate.
  • Melinite - French picric acid.
  • Picrine - German picric acid.
  • Shimose - Japanese picric acid.  Named after its inventor, Shimose Masachika (also spelled as Shimose Masakazu), but there is some evidence that it was actually based upon a sample of Melinite brought back from France.  Adopted on 17 February 1893.  Also known as PA bakuyaku (picric acid explosive).

• Shellite - British burster adopted just after the end of World War I, this was a less sensitive picric acid mixture, containing a mixture of 70% Lyddite and 30% of the much weaker, insensitive explosive dinitrophenol.

• Tetryl - Trinitrophenylmethylnitramine.  A sensitive, high power burster.  Tetryl is a light yellow crystalline material and was first made in 1877.  Known in the British Royal Navy as Composition Exploding or CE.

• TNA - Japanese tri-nitro-aniso, designated as Type 91 bakuyaku (Model 1931 Explosive).  Adopted on 25 July 1931, this was a methylated derivative of picric acid and a more stable burster than Shimose.

• TNT - Tri-nitro-toulene.  Few, if any, nations used pure TNT.  Instead, this was usually mixed with a desensitizer, such as beeswax.  For example, German shells of World War II used a beeswax mixture with the concentration of beeswax decreasing from the head to the base of the cavity.

Bursting Charge Power - The following approximations of explosive power may be used using TNT = 1.00 as a reference point.

• Before and during World War I
  • Black powder = 0.33 to 0.50
  • Guncotton = 0.50
  • Picric Acid = about 1.05 to 1.10
  • USA Explosive D = 0.95

• After World War I
  • German and Italian TNT = 1.00
  • British Shellite = 0.96
  • Japanese TNA = 1.05
  • USA Explosive D = 0.95

• Other Explosives (torpedo warheads, mines, depth charges)
  • Amatol (80/20) = 1.24
  • DD (Dinitronaphthalene/Dinitrophenol 60/40) = 0.82
  • PETN = 2.21
  • MDN (Melinite/Dinitronaphthalene 80/20) = 0.88
  • RDX = 1.94
  • Tetryl = 1.39
  • Torpex (TPX) = 1.50
  • HBX-1 = 1.17
  • HBX-3 = 1.14
  • German SW types = about 1.07
  • Japanese Type 97 (TNT/hexanitrodiphenylamine 60/40) = about 1.07

Two rules of thumb about Burster Power
  1) The effect of the burster may be taken as being proportional to the square root of the weight of the bursting charge.
  2) For the same basic shell design, the size of the bursting charge is proportional to the cube of the bore size.

Cap - Hardened steel nose piece of an APC projectile.  Introduced by Russia and America in 1894 and adopted by the British Royal Navy in 1903.  See illustrations on this page.  The cap serves the following purposes:
  1) It is shaped so as to increase the biting angle; that is, the angle at which the projectile will penetrate rather than ricocheting.
  2) It spreads the shock of impact over the periphery of the nose instead of allowing the initial contact to batter the nose tip.
  3) It pre-stresses the armor plate upon impact before the cap shatters away.  This means that the shell body sees a weakened plate.

Cannelure - Means a ring-like groove or a groove encircling a cylinder.  These have the following uses in ammunition and weapons:
  1) On projectiles used in fixed ammunition:  The groove provides a means of securely crimping the cartridge case to the projectile.
  2) On armor-piercing bullets:  The groove is used to lock the jacket of an armor-piercing bullet to the core.
  3) In the rotating band of a projectile:  The groove lessens the resistance from the rifling as the projectile travels down the gun barrel.
  4) Around the base of a cartridge case:  The groove is where the extractor takes hold to eject the spent case.
  5) In the construction of British large-caliber, wire-wound weapons:  Cannelured rings were used to prevent "steel choke" problems.

Cartridge - For rifles and pistols, this is usually defined as being the term for a complete round of ammunition, including the projectile, cartridge case, propellant and primer.  For larger caliber naval weapons, especially those using separate ammunition, this term is usually applied to only the metallic propellant container, although the British also used this term to describe the individual fabric-wrapped charges used for bag guns.  See next definition.

Cartridge Case, Powder Case, Propellant Case or Casing - A metallic container for holding powder charges and usually includes a primer element.  This type of propellant container allows higher rates of fire and is less likely to catch fire in case of damage from a shell hit.  It is also less likely to suffer a flareback type of disaster caused by the smoldering remnants from the previous powder charge.  However, for larger caliber guns, it does require more complicated and heavier handling equipment than does bag ammunition.  Germany used a variation of this for their larger guns, where the propellant was divided in to two sections, a fore charge in a bag and a main charge in a cartridge case.  Also see "Fixed" and "Semi-Fixed."

Cartridge Case Size - Cartridge cases are usually designated by the diameter of the projectile they fire and by the overall length of the casing.  Letter suffixes indicate the type of casing.  For example, the famous Oerlikon 20 mm of World War II used 20 x 110RB casings.  This meant that the cartridge cases were for 20 mm projectiles, had an overall length of 110 mm and had a Rebated Rim.  It should be realized that this is an imprecise method of identifying casings, as it neglects body diameter and shape.  Most cartridge cases are of one of the following types:

• Belted - Cartridge cases having a belt of metal above the extraction groove approximately the same diameter as the rim.  Denoted by the suffix B after the diameter and length values.

• Rimless - Cartridge cases having an extraction groove with the base of the cartridge case being no wider than the rest of the cartridge case body.  This type of cartridge case does not have a suffix following the diameter and length values.

• Rimmed - Cartridge cases having a rim at the base wider than the rest of the cartridge case and not having an extraction groove.  Denoted by the suffix R.

• Semi-Rimmed - Cartridge cases that have a rim that is wider than the body of the casing with an extraction groove just above the rim.  Denoted by the suffix SR.

• Rebated Rim - Cartridge cases whose bottom rim is smaller in diameter than the body of the cartridge case. There is an extraction groove between the rim and the rest of the cartridge case body.  Denoted by the suffix RB.

Cartridge Case, Bottle-Necked - A cartridge case whose main body diameter is significantly larger than that of the projectile and has a short "neck" section which holds the projectile.  This design may be used with any of the above cartridge case types.  A bottle-neck cartridge case holds more propellant for a given length than will a non-bottle neck cartridge case.

Cartridge Case, Tapered - A cartridge case whose body diameter increases from the neck to the rim.  This type of cartridge case ejects easier from the firing chamber than does a "straight" walled cartridge case, as any backwards motion releases the entire cartridge case body from the walls of the firing chamber.  Most military ammunition manufactured today has at least some degree of taper.

Case Ammunition - Ammunition using a cartridge case to hold the propellant.  See "Fixed" and "Semi-Fixed" below.

Case Plug or Mouth Plug - The sealing device in the mouth of a cartridge case used for separate (semi-fixed) ammunition.  This may be of cork, plastic or cardboard.  The USN originally used a brass mouth cup to seal cartridge cases, but after one "boomeranged" back on board the transport SS Mongolia and killed two nurses in May 1917, cardboard ones were substituted.

Charge or Powder Charge - The amount of propellant used in firing a weapon.  See "Propellants" below.

Clarkson's Case - British propellant charge container.  These were flashproof containers for bag charges (cartridges).  Charges were placed into these containers before they left the magazines.  The Clarkson's Cases then rode up the hoists to the guns where the charges were removed only when it was time to load them into the breech.  The Clarkson's Cases were reusable and were returned to the magazines for reloading.

Clearing Charge - A small propellant container that is used to remove a projectile "through the muzzle" following a misfire or when a projectile fails to seat properly and prevents closure of the breech.  For semi-fixed (separate) rounds, the propellant case may be easily removed from the breech following a misfire or failure to seat, but there is no easy way to extract the projectile after it has been rammed.  A clearing charge casing, being shorter than a standard full-charge casing, is then used to remove the projectile.  The clearing charge also gives the projectile a softer blow than does a standard charge and thus provides a margin of safety.

crh - Caliber Radius Head.  The pointed head of a projectile is described in terms of its ballistic length and the radius of the curvature of its nose.  Larger numbers mean a more streamlined profile.  Properly, crh is shown as a dual number such as 3/4crh, with the first number indicating the ballistic length and the second number indicating the radius of the curvature, but it is often abbreviated to a single number such as 4crh.  In the sketch at the right, the dotted line between Points A and B is the "shoulder" which is the start point of the nose and the distance between these points is the caliber of the projectile.  In this sketch, the radius of the curvature is from Point A to Point E and is four times the caliber of the projectile.  The vertical distance between Points C and D is the ballistic length and is the most important factor in the design of a shell for stability in flight.  In this sketch, the ballistic length is 4, as Point E is on the same plane as Points A and B.  From these numbers, this projectile would properly be described as 4/4crh but this would normally be abbreviated to just 4crh.  Shells of this general shape are described as being "ogival headed" and have superior ballistic performance.  As can easily be imagined, a 6crh shell is more pointed and streamlined than is a 4crh shell.  When crh is described as 5/10crh it means that the radius is 10 calibers long but the ballistic length is that of a 5crh shell.  When a projectile is described as 5/crh it means that it has a ballistic length of 5 and its nose shape is conical (infinite radius), not ogival.  Most USN projectiles had secant ogive ballistic nose shapes which were somewhat more conical than a simple tangent ogive (smooth merging joint with cylindrical lower-body side) and gave them a distinct "shoulder" where the nose met the cylindrical side of the lower body).  This shape has slightly reduced air friction compared to a tangent ogive nose of the same length above the cylindrical body.  For further information, see the essay Calculating crh on the Technical Board.

Dark Tracer and Dark Ignition Tracer - Dark Tracer was non-luminous while Dark Ignition tracers did not ignite until the projectile was 100 to 400 yards (90 to 370 m) from the muzzle.  The USN developed these tracers late during World War II for their 20 mm and 40 mm automatic weapons.  These tracers eliminated the blinding effect on gunners at night and made the origin of tracer fire harder to determine.

DBX - Depth Bomb Explosive.  USN solid explosive developed during World War II to replace Torpex and used mainly for depth charges.  It is a mixture of TNT, cyclonite, ammonium nitrate and aluminum.

Density Factor - The weight of a projectile measured in pounds divided by the cube of its caliber measured in inches.  For example, the USN 16" (40.64 cm) AP Mark 8 weighed 2,700 lbs. (1,224.7 kg).  The density factor of this projectile is thus 2,700 / 16³ = 0.659.

Detonator - An explosive device used to set off a larger explosive, such as a blasting cap used to set off TNT.

Distance Piece - This is usually a rectangular cardboard piece folded into a triangular shape and placed into the cartridge case between the wad and the case closure plug or projectile.  The distance piece is used to hold the propellant firmly in place when the amount of propellant does not completely fill the cartridge case.  Distance pieces are generally used in fixed and semi-fixed ammunition for 40 mm and larger projectiles.

DPICM - Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munition.  A submunition carried as payload in projectiles such as the USN 5" (12.7 cm) Cargo Round.  "Dual Purpose" refers to the munition having both anti-personnel and anti-armor capabilities.

Drag - The effect of air resistance on a projectile.  Drag (D) = f(V/A) * K * Ø * P * Di² * V², where f(V/A) is a coefficient related to the ratio of the velocity of the projectile to the velocity of sound in the medium through which it travels.  Sound through air at 68°F (20°C) at sea level travels at 1,128.6 fps (344 mps).  K is a constant for the shape of the projectile.  Ø is a constant for yaw (deviation from linear flight).  P is the density of the medium, Di is the diameter (caliber) of the projectile, and V the velocity.  The degree to which a projectile is slowed by drag is called retardation ® given by the formula:  r = D / M, where M is the mass of the projectile.  Drag is also influenced by the spin of the projectile.  The faster the spin, the less likely a projectile will "yaw" or turn sideways and tumble.  However, if the projectile spins too fast, it will not "turn over" at the top of its trajectory (apogee) and so will not strike the target nose-first.

Driving Band or Rotating Band - A raised ring or rings of soft metal encircling a projectile designed for rifled gun barrels.  Bands are normally located near the base of the projectile.  The bands engage the rifling in the gun barrel, causing the projectile to spin as it travels through the barrel.  Additionally, they provide a tight seal so that the propellant gases do not escape past the projectile, help to center the rear end of the projectile in the bore and hold the projectile in place during loading and gun elevation.  Bands are typically made of copper, brass or soft steel.  USN driving bands on large caliber projectiles were an alloy consisting of 97.5% copper and 2.5% nickel.  An "augmented driving band" or "augmented rotating band" is a slightly thicker strip of metal used when the rifling in the gun barrel has been worn down to the point that a standard driving band is no longer effective.

Eccentricity - Distance from the geometric center line of a projectile to the center of gravity of the projectile.

EXE - Extra Experimental.  British propellant of the 1880s that was a mixture of two-thirds brown powder and one-third black powder.  This was used for a few 6-inch (15.2 cm) guns for a brief time, but the heavy smoke it produced made it difficult to use.

Explosive Train - An explosive train uses the impulse of an initiating explosive to start the chain reaction that leads to the detonation of a main burster charge or ignition of a propellant.  For example, a fuze may be initiated by a firing pin striking a small mercury fulminate detonator charge which then sets off a booster charge which in turn sets off the main explosive charge.

F or FF - Form Factor.  A value used for ballistic calculations.  See "Ballistic Coefficient" above.

Fixed Ammunition - Ammunition in which the cartridge case is attached to the projectile, similar to a pistol bullet.  This type is usually limited to smaller weapons as the weight becomes prohibitive for hand-worked guns as the caliber increases past about 4 inches (10.2 cm).  On my datapages for guns firing this type of ammunition, the value given for "Weight of Complete Round" refers to the total of the individual weights of the projectile, cartridge case, propellant and igniter all added together.  The weight of the projectile itself is given separately if available.  Also see "Bag" above and "Semi-fixed/Separate" below.

Flechette - A small fin-stabilized projectile.  Usually used in large numbers inside of a single carrier projectile.

Fuze Setter
1) A machine located on or near the gun platform that is used to set time fuzes, usually for AA projectiles.
2) A gun crewman whose job it is to either operate the Fuze Setter machine or, by using a wrench or similar tool, to manually set projectile time fuzes.

Fuze Setting in the Hoist - Hoist fuze setting was first successfully accomplished by the USN with its 5"/38 (12.7 cm) when coupled with the Mark 37 GFCS.  In this system, the projectiles were inserted nose down into a cup on an endless chain hoist that led from the handling room directly below the mount up to the gun breeches.  As the projectile traveled up the hoist, a pawl in the cup, driven by the GFCS, would engage a lug on the projectile's time fuze ring.  The cup rotated the pawl so as to set the time fuze.  The time fuze setting was automatically and continually adjusted during the hoist as the firing solution changed.  Loaders were trained to wait until the last possible moment before removing a projectile and placing it on the loading tray so as to get the best possible time adjustment.

Fuze Setting at the Muzzle - Muzzle fuze setting is normally done by induction.  The fuze setter itself consists of a ring around the muzzle that generates a weak pulsed-electromagnetic field.  As the fuze passes through the ring, it senses this data signal and sets itself accordingly.

Gaine (Booster) - An explosive container detonated by the fuze and which in turn detonates the bursting charge.

Grain
1) A measure of weight used in the UK and USA for small propellant charges and for the weight of small caliber bullets.  1 pound = 7,000 grains.  1 gram = 15.432 grains.
2) An individual particle of propellant.  See "Powder Grain" below.

Greenboy - Improved British AP projectile developed late in World War I.  The ballistic cap for these projectiles was painted green to distinguish them from older models, hence the nickname.  Following the failure of British AP projectiles to detonate properly during the 1915 Battle of Jutland (Skagerrak), the Royal Navy began an intensive effort to produce better versions.  These were introduced into service starting in 1918 and had a new delay-action base fuze patterned after the ones used on German 28 cm Psgr. APC projectiles.  Greenboys had better armor penetration abilities compared to the older models, thanks to an improved body and the new "Hadfield" hardened AP cap.

Grommet - Cover used to protect the projectile rotating band during handling.  The grommet is removed before the projectile is fired.

Head Length - The length of the projectile's nose.  Same as "Ballistic Length."  See "crh" above.

HMX - Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine.  A white crystalline powder used as a high energy oxidizer in propellants and explosives.

Hood - Thin cap used on USN Special Common projectiles to attach the windshield to the projectile body.

Hygroscopic - Literally means "water seeking" and is used to describe a material that readily absorbs water (usually from the atmosphere).

Igniter or Igniter Patch - Bag ammunition charges have a small patch at one or both ends containing black powder (gunpowder).  This is used to set off the main propellant charge.  See "primer" below.

K Device and A.K. Device - British designations for projectiles using dye bags.  K devices had a dye container with a small explosive charge and a fuze which triggered upon water impact.  These were used for 6 to 16 inch (15.2 to 40.6 cm) projectiles with the exception of the older 7.5 inch (19 cm) guns which were not issued dye projectiles.  A.K. devices were used for 4.5 to 5.25 inch (11.4 to 13.3 cm) projectiles.  A.K. Devices did not use an explosive charge.  Instead, the ballistic cap had forward and aft ports sealed with brass plugs.  Water impact forced out the plugs and water entered through the forward ports, mixed with the dye, and then exited through the aft ports.  Red, Yellow and Green dyes were made, with White being available by simply not providing a dye.  See "Splash Colors" below.

Lead Foil - A piece of lead foil is sometimes inserted at the top of the propellant in a cartridge case.  The lead foil aids in scouring away residue left from the driving bands or unburnt propellant.

Lifting Plug - Threaded eyebolt which fits into the fuze cavity (nose or base), permitting heavy shells to be handled by means of a winch.

Link - The part of an ammunition belt which joins the individual rounds together.  Usually, one link holds one round.  "Disintegrating Link" means that the links holding each individual round to the next round separate from each other and from the cartridge as each round is fired.

Mercury Fulminate - An initiating explosive that may be used as either a primer or a detonator.  It may be detonated by flame, friction or percussion and may in turn ignite a booster or it may be mixed with other materials to form a primer composition to ignite a propellant charge.  Its melting point is too high to allow it to be cast and so it is usually loaded by being pressed into caps.  It is affected by high heat and will decompose in storage at tropical temperatures such that at the end of three years it becomes useless.  Its color is light yellow.

Meplat - The flat or blunt area at the tip of a projectile.  Usually specified by its diameter.

MT - Mechanical Time.  Designation for Time Fuzes used by the US Navy.  See "Time Fuze" below.

NACO - Navy Cool.  A cooler-burning propellant currently in use by the US Navy.

NCT - Nitrocellulose Tubular.

Nitrated Cotton - A short-fibered cotton bleached and purified to the point where it is 90% pure cellulose.  This material forms the basis for nitrocellulose used in propellants.  See "Propellants" below.

Nose Plug - The Lifting Plug (see above) used for nose-fuzed projectiles.

Nutation - The aerodynamic, gyroscopic and inertial forces acting on a spinning projectile are in constant flux as it travels through the air.  As the various forces readjust themselves, the nose of the projectile describes a small arc around the axis of travel.  This motion is called "nutation" from the Greek word for "nodding," which is a good description of what the projectile actually does.

Obturator - In projectiles, this is a band, usually made of nylon, below the driving bands.  The band helps prevent propellant gasses from escaping past the projectile as it travels up the gun barrel.  Commonly described as the "Forward Obturator" or "Forward Located Slip Obturator" to distinguish it from the breech obturator.

Ogive - The curved area making up the nose of a projectile.  Usually defined as extending rearwards from the tip of the projectile's nose to the main cylindrical portion or bearing surface.  From an ordnance manual: "Often a convex solid of revolution generated by an arc of a circle whose center lies on the side of the axis of revolution opposite to the arc."  Whew, glad I found that out!  In layman's terms, the head of the projectile is usually bullet-shaped.  See "crh" above.

Oxidizer - Reactive compound which gains electrons during an oxidation-reduction chemical reaction.  In propellants, this is the ingredient that provides oxygen for the burning process.

Palliser Projectile - Iron armor piercing shells of the mid to late 19th century which were hardened by casting the projectiles point downwards and forming the heads in an iron mold.  This process rapidly chilled the hot metal of the nose and made it intensely hard.  The remainder of the projectile mold was formed of sand, allowing the metal of the shell body to cool more slowly, making it tough but not brittle.  These shells were powder-filled, but did not use a fuze.  Instead, they relied upon the shock of striking the target to set off the burster.  These shells were effective against wrought iron armor, but shattered against steel armor.  Named after the inventor, Sir William Palliser.

PBX - Plastic Bonded Explosive.  A mixture of cyclonite, HMX, PETN and a plastic binder.  Has high mechanical strength, excellent chemical stability and is shock resistant.

PETN - Pentaerythritol tetranitrate.  Shock-sensitive material used in explosives, blasting caps and in some mono-propellants.

Posit or Pozit Fuze - See "Fuzes" below.

Powder Bags - See Bag Ammunition, above.

Pre-fragmented - A projectile, usually AA or antipersonnel, that has been sectioned so as to break up into uniformly-sized pieces when the round detonates.

Primer - A device used to provide a flame for the purpose of setting fire to a propellant charge.  Also called an "igniter."  Primers are divided into two types, depending upon the type of ammunition used by the gun:  1) Case and 2) Lock.  Case primers, as their name implies, are used for guns firing case ammunition.  These are small containers of an explosive such as mercury fulminate that are installed into the base of the cartridge case.  Lock primers are used for bag guns and are inserted by hand into the firing lock of the gun.  Primers are also divided into three classes, depending upon the method of firing:  1) Percussion, 2) Electric and 3) Combination.  Percussion primers are fired by the mechanical impact of a firing pin.  Electric primers are fired by passing a current through a resistance element surrounded by an initiating mixture.  Combination primers may be fired by either of these methods, which allows for a mechanical backup if the electrical supply system to the gun fails.

Puff - Non-explosive projectile used for training spotters.  These produce a dense cloud of smoke approximately the size of those produced by high-explosive projectiles.

Reduced Charge - Smaller than normal amount of propellant.  These may be used for practice firings as they reduce the amount of barrel wear per shot.  They are also useful for shore bombardment missions, as the lower muzzle velocity and shorter range resulting when using these charges means an increased angle of fall and thus an increased horizontal penetration capability.  This is also useful in striking reverse-slope defenses.

Rim - The lip or flange around the case head on a cartridge case which provides purchase for the extractor claw.

Ring Fuze - See "Time Fuze" below.

RLG - Rifle Large Grain.  This was British large grained black powder, with the grains roughly 0.25 inches (6.4 mm) in diameter.  RLG² and RLG⁴ were later developments with still larger grains, with the largest being about 0.50 inches (12.7 mm) in diameter.

Rotating Band - See "Driving Band" above.

Sabot - Pronounced "sa-BO."  Literally means "hoof" in French.  This is a lightweight carrier into which a projectile smaller than the barrel diameter (usually called a sub-caliber round) is centered.  The carrier fills the bore of the weapon from which the projectile is fired and is normally discarded a short distance from the muzzle.  There are two common uses for this type of ammunition. The first use is when the projectile is made from a very heavy, dense material, such as in tungsten penetrators.  Making the projectile smaller than the barrel diameter keeps the shell weight about the same as that of a conventional projectile and thus does not overstress the gun barrel.  The second use is to give a light-weight projectile a higher muzzle velocity.  This means that the same amount of propellant will throw the smaller projectile a longer distance than it will the conventional projectile.

Sankaidan - Japanese for "fragmentation."  Also known as "incendiary shrapnel shells" (shôi ryûsandan).  These were AA rounds which contained hundreds of incendiary-filled steel tubes and officially designated as "Type 3 Common Shells" (3 Shiki tsûjôdan).  The incendiary filling was "Elektron" metal (45%), barium nitrate (40%) and rubber (14.3%) together with sulfur (0.5%) and stearic acid (0.2%).  "Elektron" was a trade name for a metal alloy composed primarily of magnesium (90%) with the balance being aluminum (3%), copper (3%), zinc (2%) and silicon (2%).  Besides their incendiary effect, the steel tubes also acted as shrapnel.  The Type 3 was first deployed in 1942 for 20 cm (8 in) and larger guns and in 1943 for the 12.7 cm/40 (5 in) AA and 12.7 cm/50 (5 in) DP guns.  The 46 cm (18.1 in) Type 3 projectiles for the Yamato class battleships may have been nicknamed "The Beehive" but this could be apocryphal.  A time fuze was used to set the desired bursting distance, usually about 1,000 meters (1,100 yards) after leaving the muzzle.  These projectiles were designed to burst in a 20 degree cone extending towards the oncoming aircraft with the projectile shell itself being destroyed by a bursting charge to increase the quantity of steel splinters.  The incendiary tubes ignited about half a second later and burned for five seconds at 3,000 degrees C, producing a flame about 5 meters (16 feet) long.  These shells were thought to have a larger lethal radius than did standard HE AA rounds.  The concept behind these shells was that the ship would put up a barrage pattern through which an attacking aircraft would have to fly.  However, the USN pilots considered them to be little more than fireworks and not an effective AA weapon.

SD - Sectional Density.  A value used for ballistic calculations.  See "Ballistic Coefficient" above.

Semi-fixed and/or Separate Ammunition - Semi-fixed ammunition is when the projectile and cartridge case are separate pieces but are joined together prior to firing.  This term has become interchangeable with separate ammunition, which is where the projectile does not attach to the cartridge case but they are both rammed together into the breech.  These types of ammunition were commonly used for AAA and DP type weapons used in World War II as this allowed each piece to be light enough to be manually handled.  For example, the US 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12 used a projectile with a separate brass cartridge case which held the propellant.  These were laid together in the gun's loading tray after which a rammer pushed them "home" into the breech which then closed automatically.  Technically, the 5"/38 (12.7 cm) used separate ammunition, but most descriptions of this weapon, including USN official ones, use the term semi-fixed.  In more recent years, the USN has adopted the term "Separate Ammunition" as the preferred description.

Set-back - The shock on a projectile when fired from a gun or when it strikes a target.  Used to enable many fuze mechanisms such as impact and time fuzes.

Shalloon - See "Bag Ammunition" above.

Shark - A British ASW projectile developed near the end of World War II.  Weighed about 96 lbs. (43.5 kg) and could be fired from any 4 inch (10.2 cm) gun.  Not known if successful in battle, but trial results were considered to be very encouraging.

Shell Length - This is sometimes designated as being in "calibers," similar to barrel length.  For instance, if a 16 inch (40.64 cm) shell is listed as being 4 calibers long, then this means that it is about 16 x 4 = 64 inches (1.626 m) long from nose to base.

Short Delay Fuze - See "Contact Fuze" below.

Shot - An archaic term for a solid projectile intended for penetrating armor.  Mostly replaced by AP after about 1900.

Shrapnel - Also known as "spherical case," this was a type of anti-personnel ammunition which consisted of a shell containing metal balls in the front and a small bursting charge at the rear which was detonated by a time fuze set to explode just before reaching the target.  This was first adopted by the British Army in 1803 and is named after the inventor, Lt. (later General) Henry Scrapnel (sometimes spelled as "Shrapnel") of the British Army.  This term has been used in the past to define shell fragments from most kinds of bursting projectiles, not necessarily anti-personnel types.  Currently, the more accurate term "shell splinter" is in general use.

SP - Small Pebble.  Large grain, densely packed gunpowder that replaced RLG.  This was manufactured by using black powder tightly pressed into a block and then broken into small pieces or "pebbles" or cut into cubes of about 0.5 inches (1.27 cm) in size.  P² was a larger size cube of 1.5 inches (3.8 cm).  See "Prismatic Powder" below.

Spin - A standard, fin-less projectile must be spun in order to maintain stability in flight.  Under or over spun projectiles will tend to tumble in flight or not turn over at apogee and thus do not achieve good range or penetration performance.  Generally speaking, the larger the diameter or longer the projectile, the slower it can be spun, in terms of rotations per second (RPS), in order to maintain stability.

Splash Colors - In group actions, when more than one ship is firing on the same target, it is difficult to determine which shell splashes are from which ship.  This is important to know in order for each ship to be able to adjust its fire onto the target.  The solution was "Splash Colors," first used by the USN during Force Battle Practice in 1930 and in use by most navies during World War II.  The void space between the armor piercing cap and the windshield for AP projectiles was filled with a colored dye by the shell manufacturer.  The dye is seen when the shell impacts in the sea and colors the resulting splash - hence the name.  By using different colors, each ship could distinguish between their shells and those fired by other warships.  In the USN, the dye was a dry powder which was packaged in paper bags.  Interestingly, the USN used this dye to compensate for minor weight variations that crept in during the projectile manufacturing process.  For example, the 16 inch (40.64 cm) Mark 8 AP had a nominal 1.5 lbs. (0.68 kg) dye bag, but this was allowed to be as large as 3.0 lbs. (1.36 kg) in order to bring underweight projectiles up to the standard weight of 2,700 lbs. (1,225 kg).  Usually, a particular color was assigned to each ship. For example, the colors used by the USS Iowa (BB-61) class battleships were as follows:

      USS Iowa - Orange
      USS New Jersey - Blue
      USS Missouri - Red
      USS Wisconsin - Green

Splinter -  Fragments of a shell after detonation.

Squib - A firing device that burns with a flash and is used for igniting black powder or pellet powder.

Star Shell - See "Illum" above.

Super Quick Fuze - See "Fuze" above.

Time Fuze - See "Fuze" above.

TP-T - Target/Practice projectile with Tracer.

TTB - Target Triggered Burst.  See "Fuze" above.

Torpex - "Torpedo Explosive" used by the USN during World War II.  Torpex is composed of 42% RDX, 40% TNT and 18% powdered aluminium.  Its explosive power is approximately 50% greater than TNT alone.

VD - Variable Delay.  USN terminology for base fuzes designed for armor-piercing projectiles.  Complete designation was "VDXF" where "X" was the Mark number and "F" stood for fuze.  See "Fuze" above.

VT - Variable Time.  See "Fuze" above.

Wad - For cartridge cases using a loose powder propellant which does not fill the cartridge, a cardboard disc is placed on top of the powder and held with a distance piece to keep the propellant firmly in place.

Windshield - See "Ballistic Cap" above.

World War I Projectile Weight - Typical World War I AP caps weighed about 5% of the total projectile weight.  World War I windscreens, when used, were tiny, only about 0.5-2% of the projectile weight.  The need for increased range caused more World War II-like long windscreens to be added to some projectiles by the end of World War I.  Burster weight was about 2.5-4% for APC, 4-6% for Common, 6-11% for HE and about 8-10% for CPC.

World War II Projectile Weight - Windscreens weighed 3-5% (depending on length) for most World War II projectiles, though German post-1930 L/4,4 and L/4,6 AP projectiles used brittle aluminum windscreens that only weighed about 1% of the total projectile weight.  Hoods weighed about 5%.  AP caps had more variable weights, with 8-14% being the usual range for large projectiles.  Smaller projectiles, especially U.S. Navy 6 inch (15.2 cm) and 8 in (20.3 cm) AP projectiles, had much heavier caps.  The U.S. Navy 335 lbs. (152 kg) 8 inch (20.3 cm) Mark 21 AP projectile had about a 17% cap weight, while the 130 lbs. (59 kg) 6 inch (15.2 cm) Mark 35 AP projectile had a 19-22% cap weight - both of these projectiles had the bluntest, most-hemispherical nose shapes of all projectiles in use.  Explosives made up about 2-5% for APC, although the USN used about 1.5% in their "super-heavy" projectiles.  HE or HC projectiles had about 6-8% explosive.  Some exact breakdowns:

    USN 16 inch (40.64 cm) 2,700 lbs. (1,225 kg) AP Mark 8 Mod 6 (Data from NPG Report 3-47)
       AP cap:  312 lbs. (141.5 kg) [11.6%]
       Windscreen: 32.4 lbs. (14.7 kg) [1.2%]
       Bursting charge:  40.5 lbs. (18.4 kg) [1.5%]
       Body weight (including bursting charge):  2,355.6 lbs. (1,068.5 kg) [87.2%]

    German 40.64 cm (16 inch) 2,271 lbs. (1,030 kg) Psgr. L/4,4 (mhb) (Data from NPG Report 101)
        AP cap:  363 lbs. (164.7 kg) [16%]
        Windscreen:  27 lbs. (12.3 kg) [1.2%]
        Bursting charge:  About 53.4 lbs. (24.2 kg) [2.3%]
        Body weight (including bursting charge):  1,880 lbs. (852.8 kg) [82.8%]

 

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[Elgerino]

You're way over-simplifying it, black. The belt is only one layer of armour, below that is the structure itself and of critical importance, the citadel. 

 

I'm no expert, I don't know how important penetrating the citadel was in a real combat situation but in this game, it's the holy grail and that's another layer of armour for these guns to get through before they do the real damage numbers. There's just too much armour to go through most of the time without a straight shot, that is unless we can figure out the armour of the target and maximise our chances of getting through with more carefully aimed shot. 

[Jaeger_Bomb_Meister]

 

Fuze Definitions

 

A fuze is a device that initiates the detonation of the projectile burster.  Fuzes may be divided into two general categories, contact and non-contact.  Examples of contact fuzes would be super quick and delay while examples of non-contact fuzes would be time and proximity.  An overview of fuzes and fuze terminology used since the 1900s follows below.

ADF or Auxiliary Detonating Fuze - Many USN nose fuzes have an "auxiliary detonating fuze" between them and the burster.  These auxiliary fuzes provide the heavier shock which actually detonates the bursting charge.  Auxiliary fuzes also act as a safety feature by preventing the projectiles from exploding should the primary fuze be accidentally actuated prior to the arming of the auxiliary detonating fuze.

Boresafe Fuze - Type of fuze having an interrupter in the explosive train that prevents the fuze from functioning until after the projectile has cleared the muzzle of the weapon.  A "non-boresafe fuze" does not have this feature.

Base Fuze - Fuze located at the bottom end or base of the shell.  This is the most common location for AP and SAP projectiles as it avoids weakening the nose of the shell and protects the fuze from damage as the projectile passes through armor.  Some HE/HC shells have both nose and base fuzes as this increases the probability of the shell detonating under differing conditions.

CCF - Course Correcting Fuze.  A smart fuze that uses aerodynamic fins together with the Global Positioning System (GPS) in order to steer an otherwise ordinary ballistic projectile.

Contact, Impact or Percussion Fuze - A fuze initiated only after the projectile strikes the target.  There are two general types of contact fuzes:  "Delay" and "Super Quick" both further defined below.

Combination Fuze - A fuze that incorporates both Contact and Time functions.  The fuze may function either when it strikes the target or after the set time expires.

Delay Fuze - A contact fuze that detonates the projectile only after it has impacted and penetrated some distance into the target.  A "short delay" means that the fuze initiates detonation within a few thousandths (0.00X) of a second after impact.  For naval guns, short delays are generally used for HE/HC rounds while longer delays are used for AP rounds.  Some delay fuzes have a ring or dial which allows adjustment of the delay time.  For AP projectiles, it is desirable to have the shell detonate only after it has penetrated past the armor plating, thus letting it get into the "vitals" of the target ship's interior.  For most AP rounds of the twentieth century, this delay was usually about 0.030 to 0.070 seconds, roughly equivalent to 35 to 80 feet (10 to 30 m) of travel.  In addition, some thickness of armor plate was needed to initiate the fuze action.  For example, the USN required that for hits of 0 degrees obliquity that the AP fuze would not activate unless the armor plate was at least 1 inch (2.54 cm) thick.

Nose Fuze - Fuze is located at the top point of the shell.  This is the most common location for HC and HE shells as the fuzes can be set to allow little or no time delay and thus detonate the bursting charge immediately upon impact.

Proximity Fuze - Fuze containing a simple radar that can detect the nearness (proximity) of a target.  Also called "influence fuze."  First used in World War II on USN 5 in (12.7 cm) AA shells which were called "VT Fuzed" where VT stood for "Variable Time" (it appears to be a myth that "VT" was a reference to "Section T," the BuOrd development team for proximity fuzes.  See the Technical Board Essay on VT Fuze naming).  These fuzes are also widely used for anti-personnel rounds for land artillery as they eliminate the need to accurately set a time fuze to explode the projectile at a fixed distance above the target.  During World War II, the US Army called these posit or pozit fuzes which meant that the proximity fuze allowed the shell to detonate at the most effective height or "position" above the ground.  Since World War II, proximity fuzes small enough to fit onto 40 mm AA rounds have been developed.  The modern British versions of proximity fuzes are called TTB - Target Triggered Burst.  CVT or "Controlled Variable Time" fuzes have a mechanical timer which activates the radar when it is close to the target.  This helps to prevent premature detonations due to heavy rain or other non-target influences.

Super Quick Fuze or Instantaneous Fuze - A contact fuze designed to detonate the projectile before it has penetrated any distance into the target.  Super quick fuzes are commonly used on anti-aircraft rounds that are intended to shred the outer airframe.

Time Fuze - Fuze has an adjustable mechanism - usually an incremented dial or "ring" that controls a mechanical or electronic timer which is used to set a delay time.  Commonly used for AA, smoke and illumination projectiles, this type of fuze is used to control the time between when the shell is fired and when it detonates.

 

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Projectile Designations

 

AA - Anti-Aircraft.

AAC - Anti-Aircraft Common.

AAVT - Anti-Aircraft with Proximity Fuze.

AHEAD - Advanced Hit Efficiency And Destruction.

AP - Armor Piercing.  Projectile for use against heavily armored targets.  Very little explosive within the shell, as it must be almost solid in order to penetrate through armor plate.  The USN has designated all capped armor piercing projectiles as AP since the early 1900s.  See "APC" below.

APC or CAP - Armor Piercing Capped or (rarely used) Capped Armor Piercing.  Most AP shells have a hard steel cap fitted over the nose which is intended to exert a high initial force on the face of the armor.  In addition, a ballistic cap is usually fitted over the AP Cap to provide a more streamlined shape for better aerodynamic characteristics.

APDS - Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot.

APFSDS - Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot.

API, AP-I, APT or AP-T - Armor Piercing Projectiles that include a Tracer (Incendiary).

AR - British designation meaning "Anti-Radar."  See "Window" below.

BL&P or B.L.&P. - Blind Loaded & Plugged.  Same as a Blind Shell.  Used for training purposes or for target practice.

BL&T or B.L.&T. - Blind Loaded Shell with a Tracer.  Used for training purposes or for target practice.

CCAMS - Course-Corrected Anti-Missile Shell.

Common - Common projectiles were originally shells - which literally means a hollow container - filled with black powder and used for attacking lightly armored or unarmored vessels. By the 1930s, this term was used by a few navies to describe any non-armor piercing shell.  By that time, the bursters were less sensitive explosives, such as TNT.  In the USN, Common projectiles of the 1920-1950 period did not have caps or hoods and were designed to penetrate approximately one-third of their caliber of armor.  See "Special Common" below.

CLGP - Cannon-Launched, Guided Projectile.  Long-range ballistic projectiles using terminal laser guidance developed during the 1970s for the USN's 5"/54 Mark 42 and 8"/55 Mark 71 guns.

CNF - Common, nose fuze.  British projectile designation.

CP - Common Pointed.  British designation for shells of poured or cast unhardened steel.  Used a powder filling and were manufactured for 2-pdr. to 6 inch (15.2 cm) guns.  Obsolete by World War II.

CPBC - Common Pointed Ballistic Cap.  British designation for shells with ballistic caps of 6 inch (15.2 cm) and larger intended for use against medium thicknesses of armor.  After 1946 this designation was changed to SAPBC - Semi-Armor Piercing Ballistic Cap.

CPC - Common Pointed Capped.  British designation for capped shells of 6 inch (15.2 cm) and larger for use against lightly armored targets.  Used a mild steel cap.  Little armor penetration capability but large bursting charge.  Obsolete by World War II.

DART - Driven Ammunition Reduced Time of flight.  Sub-caliber guided projectile with canard control, intended to improve the performance of the OTO-Melara 76/62 gun in the antimissile role.  Uses a radio-frequency beam rider guidance system which utilizes the firing ship's tracking radar.

ERGM - Extended Range Guided Munition.  Effectively missiles fired from a gun barrel, these special projectiles are currently under development for the US Navy for the 5"/62 Mark 45 Mod 4 and 155 mm AGS gun systems.

FAP - Frangible Armor Piercing.  FAP is usually a projectile with a tungsten alloy core which breaks up into multiple fragments when it strikes a hard surface.  The FAP projectile combines armor penetration, blast effects and incendiary action, all from an inert projectile that has no more logistical safety problems than a training round.

FAPDS - Fragmented Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot.

HC - High Capacity.  A USN designation for projectiles intended for use against lightly armored targets.  Contains a relatively large amount of explosive as compared to an armor piercing or common projectile.  Burster was between 7.0% to 12.6% of total projectile weight.

HE - High Explosive or High Effect.  Same as HC.

HEI or HE-I - HE projectiles that include an Incendiary.

HE-I-SD - Self-destructing incendiary HE projectile.

HE-CVT - HE with a Controlled Variable Time (proximity) fuze.

HE-IR - HE with an infrared fuze.  These rounds use a passive IR fuze that operates only on the infrared spectrum detected in the exhaust gasses of jet and hot missile targets.  These fuzes are harder to jam than radar-type proximity fuzes.

HE-MOM - HE Multirole OTO Munitions.  OTO-Melara ammunition with proximity fuzing and tungsten cubes surrounding the bursting charge.

HE-PF-OM - HE Pre-Fragmented OTO Munition.

HE-PD - HE with a Point Detonating (contact) fuze.

HE/SD - Self-destructing HE projectile.

HENT - British HE shell with TNT burster.

HET or HE-T - HE shell with a tracer.

HE-T/SD - Self-destructing HE-T shell.

HETF - British high explosive projectile with time fuze.

HE-VT - High Explosive with a Variable Time (proximity) fuze.

ILLUM or Illuminating - Commonly called "Star Shells," these projectiles are usually filled with magnesium and are used at night to light up (illuminate) the target.  Many use a parachute in order to slow their descent.

ILLUM-MT - Illumination round with a Mechanical Time fuze.

LRBA - Long Range Bombardment Ammunition.  USN munition developed as part of the "Gunfighter" program of the late 1960s.  These were unguided 5" (12.7 cm) projectiles enclosed in a sabot and fired from 8" (20.3 cm) gun barrels.  These sub-caliber projectiles had a maximum range of about 72,000 yards (66,000 m) and were successfully used against Viet Cong targets at 70,000 yards (64,000 m).

LRLAP - Long Range Land Attack Projectiles.  These are being developed as part of the AGS program.

MPDS - Missile Piercing Discarding Sabot.

OEA - Obus Explosif en Acier.  French designation for High Explosive projectiles.

OEcl - Obus Eclairant.  French designation for Starshell.

OI - Obus Incendiare.  French designation for Incendiary shell.

OPf or OPF RC - Obus de Perforation or Obus de Perforation de Rupture Coiffé.  French designation for APC.

OPfK - Obus de Perforation dispositif 'K'.  French designation for APC with dye bag.  Unlike many nations, French APC dye shells included a nose fuze and a small explosive charge to disperse the dye.  This made it possible to not only color the shell splashes but also to color hits.

PFHE - Proximity Fuzed High Explosive.

RAP - Rocket-Assisted Projectile.

SAP - Semi-Armor Piercing. Projectiles supplied for smaller guns for use against moderately armored targets.

SAPBC - Semi-Armor Piercing Ballistic Cap.  British projectile designation.  See "CPBC" above.

SAPER - Semi-Armor Piercing Extended Range.

SAPHEI-T - Semi-Armor Piercing High Explosive Incendiary Tracer.

SAPOM - Semi-Armor Piercing OTO Munition.

SAPOM-ER - Semi-Armor Piercing OTO Munition Extended Range.

Special Common or SP Common - USN unofficial designation of the 1920-1950 period for those Common projectiles that used both windshields and hoods.  These projectiles were designed be able to penetrate approximately one-third to one-half their caliber of armor.  They differed from AP projectiles by not having a cap and in having a larger burster cavity.  Burster was 2.1% to 3.99% of total shell weight.

Shrapnel Shell or SS - British designation.  A thin-walled shell body with a powder filled central tube surrounded by lead antimony balls embedded in resin.  Used a time fuze.  Obsolete by World War II.

Window or Window Load - Projectiles containing metal foil strips, which, when scattered high in the air by a small burster charge, serve to jam radar sets by creating a multitude of images.

WP - White Phosphorous or "Wiley Pete."  Projectiles used to create a small smoke screens, which is why they are also known as "Smoke" rounds.

 

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Propellant Definitions

 

Powder Grain - An individual unit of propellant.  Commonly used in the form of strips by France, cords (strings) by Britain and Japan, hollow tubes (single perforation) by Germany and Italy, and in multi-perforated cylinders by the USA, as shown at right.  A propellant grain with a decreasing burning surface will tend to generate less propellant gas as it burns while a propellant grain with an increasing burning surface will tend to generate more propellant gas as it burns.  Propellant grains whose total burning surface area decreases as they burn are known as degressive or regressive grains.  Propellant grains formed in balls, cords, pellets and thin sheets burn degressively.  Degressive grains are best used in weapons having a short barrel length as there is less need to maintain a steady pressure as the round travels up the barrel.  A neutral burning grain is one whose total burning surface remains approximately constant as it burns.  Single perforated grains and star perforations are examples of neutral burning grains.  Technically, grains formed in sheets or strips burn degressively, but the change in burning surface is so small that these may be considered to be as effectively neutral burning.  A progressive grain is one whose total burning surface increases as it burns.  Grains with multiple perforations and those in rosette shapes burn progressively.  A progressively burning grain has an advantage in a longer-caliber gun as more gas is generated to fill the increasing volume as the projectile travels down the barrel.

Propellant Types - An overview of some of the more common propellants used by naval guns since the 1860s.

• Single-Base, Double-Base, Triple-base and Composite Base Propellants - Propellants are normally classified into three types; single-base, double-base and composite.  Single base propellants are primarily gelatinized nitrocellulose that do not contain an additional explosive ingredient such as nitroglycerin.  Double-base propellants are mainly compositions that are predominately nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin.  Triple-base propellants are double-base propellants to which has been added a third explosive, Nitroguanidine (see below). Composite propellants are compositions that contain mixtures of fuel and inorganic oxidants but do not contain a significant amount of nitrocellulose or nitroglycerin.  There are also combinations of composite and double-base propellants.

• Ballistite - This is a double-base propellant for rockets.  It is composed of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin, blended together with diphenylamine, which acts as a stabilizer.  This mixture burns with a considerable amount of flash and smoke, and generates a great volume of gas.  Ballistite burns progressively, but at a rate dependent upon the composition and physical characteristics of the propellant grain, the temperature of the propellant prior to ignition and the gas pressure obtained during combustion.

• Black Powder - Commonly known as "gunpowder," this was obsolete as a propellant by the 1880s and rarely used after 1900 by the major powers.  It did continue to be used for igniter patches on bag ammunition.  Black powder is a mixture of potassium nitrate or sodium nitrate, charcoal and sulfur.  It is hydroscopic and subject to rapid deterioration when exposed to moisture.  It is also one of the most dangerous explosives to handle because of the ease with which it is ignited by heat, friction or spark.  Black powder as a gun propellant has several disadvantages:  (1) it leaves a large amount of residue, (2) it produces large quantities of smoke, (3) it causes rapid erosion of the gun bore and (4) its velocity of reaction is too rapid, giving an abrupt hammer blow to the projectile and then rapidly decreasing energy.  This last reason is why gunpowder guns had short barrel lengths.  Muzzle velocity was generally less than 1,600 fps (488 mps).

• Brown Powder or Cocoa Powder or Slow Burning Cocoa - Invented in Germany in the late 19th century, this was gunpowder that was made by using an underburned straw charcoal that gave it the characteristic color from which it took its name.  This charcoal gave a denser and hence slower burning structure to the powder and thus permitted better regulation of pressure.  Brown powder is similar to black powder (gunpowder), each being a mixture of potassium nitrate, charcoal and sulfur, but brown powder has a lower sulfur content (3% versus 12%) and a correspondingly higher potassium nitrate content.  The reduced sulfur content results in a slower rate of deflagration (burning) and the higher potassium nitrate content supports a more complete burning of the charcoal and thus releases more energy.  The slower burning nature of brown powder allowed longer barrel lengths and thus higher muzzle velocities, with the maximum being about 2,200 fps (671 mps).  However, this propellant is notorious for producing vast quantities of smoke as only about 35 percent of its weight is actually converted into propellant gas.

• Cordite - A double-base smokeless powder composed of nitroglycerin, guncotton and a petroleum substance, usually gelatinized by the addition of acetone, and the mixture then pressed into cords which resemble brown twine.

• Flashless Powder - Propellant formulation that reduces the amount of flame emitted from the gun muzzle.  Useful in night engagements not only because it does not give away the position of the firing ship, but, more importantly, it does not blind the gunners and optical fire control operators.  Not really "flashless" but much less so than standard propellants.  Flashless propellants normally produce significantly more smoke than do smokless propellants, and there is always the need to strike a balance between the two effects.

• Gun Cotton or Nitrocellulose - Explosive substance formed by the nitration of cotton or some other form of cellulose.  As a projectile force, gun cotton has around six times the gas generation of an equal volume of black powder and produces less smoke and less barrel heating.  Guncotton releases about 1,100 kilocalories (Kcal) of energy per kilogram, nearly twice that of black powder, almost the same as TNT and two-thirds that of nitroglycerine.  Moist or "wet" guncotton is relatively stable but can be easily exploded by using a small amount of dry guncotton (which is sensitive to shock) to start the deflagration.  Some history about guncotton:  In 1838 the French chemist Theophile Jule Pelouze discovered that an explosive could be produced by nitrating cotton, that is, by treating cotton with nitric acid in such a way as to cause NO₂ groups from the nitric acid, HNO₃, to enter into combination with the cotton cellulose.  He thus produced cellulose nitrates, generally called nitrocellulose.  His explosive was the first guncotton, but it was an inconsistent mixture and was not put to practical use.  The German-Swiss chemist Christian Friedrich Schönbein discovered in 1845-46 that by nitrating cotton with a mixture of nitric and sulfuric acids, an explosive of good quality would result and that the nitration process could be satisfactorily controlled.  Manufacture of guncotton via his process was undertaken in several European countries, but poor quality control led to a series of disastrous explosions in many of the factories where it was being produced.  The researches of various investigators during the middle of 19th century, notably those of General von Lenk in Austria and the British chemist Frederick Abel at Woolwich Arsenal (who, together with James Dewar, later invented cordite), showed that the danger was due to the presence of impurities, which could be removed by careful courses of treatment.  The methods of purification which they introduced consisted principally in washing and boiling, together with pulping the material to facilitate cleansing.  In 1865, Abel was the first to safely produce good quality guncotton.

• Prismatic Powder - In 1860 General Thomas Jackson Rodman of the United States Army, realizing the advantages to be gained by increasing the propellant burn time, proposed the use of large grains of very dense black powder for this purpose.  As a result of his research, he also proposed that perforated grains be used in order that the burning surface of each grain might be increased as combustion proceeded.  The use of these grains gave a means of better regulating the ballistic action of black powders, and thus reduced undesirable items such as fluctuations in muzzle velocity.  Different grain forms were tried, such as spherohexagonal and various prismatic shapes, including the hexagonal prism with a single perforation.  The latter form was widely used in larger guns.  The use of such grains was the first notable advance in securing a powder which would burn progressively, that is, with increasing evolution of gases and heat.

• Nitroguanidine (NQ) - Needle-shaped solid used in explosives and triple-base smokeless powders.  Nitroguanidine is an insensitive, non-flammable explosive used to reduce flash in propellants.  NQ lowers the temperature of the flame and increases gas volume. This combination reduces flash and gas temperatures which reduces bore erosion and thus increases barrel life.

• Smokeless Propellant - Propellant formulation that reduces the amount of smoke emitted from the gun muzzle.  Not really "smokeless" but much less so than black powder (gunpowder) or brown powder.  Smokeless propellant was invented by the French chemist Paul Vielle in 1883 and involved the "gelatinization" of nitrocellulose.  Gelantinization consists in transforming fibrous nitrocellulose into a dense, non-porous material that looks like celluloid and can be given a definite shape.  As invented by Vielle, this involved dissolving nitrocellulose by the use of a solvent mixture, such as alcohol and ether.  As the solvent evaporates, what is left behind is a gel - hence the name "gelantinization" to describe the process.  This gel produces a single-base energetic material that can be worked into different forms.  This is sometimes known as "Solvent Propellant" to distinguish it from "Solventless Propellants."

• Solventless Propellants - These propellants use a plasticizer, usually nitroglycerine, which is worked into the nitrocellulose fibers under the mechanical effect of a roll mill and the use of heat to produce a gel.  Following this mixing process, the gel is then pushed through an extrusion press to form the propellant grains.  These operations are known as "rolling and drawing."

Propellants by Country

Abbreviations of the more well-known propellants used by the major naval powers.  Additonal information on most of these propellants may be found further below.

Britain

• EXE - Extra Experimental

• Mark I - The original cordite formulation adopted by the Royal Navy in 1889
• MD - Modified Cordite, adopted by the RN in 1901
• MC - Modified Cracked, adopted by the RN in 1917
• SC - Solventless Cordite, also known as Solventless Carbamite, adopted by the RN in 1927
• HSC - Hot Solventless Carbamite
• HSCT - Hot Solventless Carbamite Tubular
• NF, originally known as NFQ - Triple-base flashless propellant, adopted by the RN during World War II
• NQFP - Reduced flash composite of NFQ and SC
• PBr or P.Br. - Prismatic Brown
• PBl or P.Bl. - Prismatic Black
• RLG - Rifle Large Grain
• SBC - Slow Burning Cocoa
• SP - Small Pebble
• CSP₂ - Chilworth Special Powder No. 2.  A dual-base propellant made by the Chilworth Gunpowder Company prior to World War I and used by Elswick for many of their export guns.

France

• Poudre B - Poudre Blanche or "white powder."  The original French nitrocellulose, adopted by the French Navy around 1890.  The name was to distinguish the new propellant from gunpowder, which was known as Poudre N for Poudre Noire (black powder)

• BM - Blanche Modifié? or "Modified White?"  Improved French nitrocellulose adopted about 1912.
• SD - Solventless double-based propellant adopted in the 1930s

Germany

• RP - Rohr-Pulver or "Tube powder."  Usually known by their model year, such as RP C/38 meaning a propellant adopted in 1938.

Italy

• C - Italian cordite, adopted about 1900

• NAC - Solventless propellant in use after 1936
• FC₄ - Solventless propellant in use after 1936

Japan

• C - Japanese cordite, equivalent to British MD and adopted by the Imperial Navy in 1907

• C₂ - Type 2 Cordite, adopted in 1912.  Later formulations were sequentially designated, such as C₃
• T₂ - Type 2 Cordite in tubular form.  Later formulations were sequentially designated, such as T₃
• DC - Deutsche Cordite, adopted in 1924.  Later formulations were sequentially designated, such as DC₃
• DT - Deutsche Cordite in tubular form
• FD - Flashless Deutsche Cordite

United States of America

The designations below are normally followed by a number that indicates the sequence of manufacture.  The combination of the letters and the number is termed the index or the lot of the powder.

• SP - Smokeless Powder, the original single-based propellant adopted by the USN in 1900

• SPR - Smokeless Powder with Rosaniline dye, in service with the USN for a brief period between 1905 and 1908
• SPD - Smokeless Powder with Diphenylamine as a stabilizer, adopted by the USN in 1908
• SPDB - A blend of diphenylamine stabilized powders of different lots.  The purpose of blending is to provide a uniform index of ample size and desired characteristics from smaller remnant lots.
• SPDF - A flashless formulation of SPD
• SPDN - SPD with nonvolatile materials added to reduce its hydroscopic tendencies.  The N stands for nonhygroscopic.
• SPDW - Reworked propellant intended for target use.  Propellant is ground down, reprocessed and then made into new grains.
• SPWF - Reworked propellant to which a flashless element has been added
• SPDX -  Water-dried SPD
• SPC - Smokeless Powder with Carbamite (ethyl centrality) added for stability
• SPCF - A flashless formulation of SPC
• SPCG - Flashless triple-based propellant stabilized with carbamite.  The G is short for NG, the designation for Nitroguanidine.

 

[dblkion]

what is this BS, write a book dude

[Bl4ckh0g]

You're way over-simplifying it, black. The belt is only one layer of armour, below that is the structure itself and of critical importance, the citadel. 

 

I'm no expert, I don't know how important penetrating the citadel was in a real combat situation but in this game, it's the holy grail and that's another layer of armour for these guns to get through before they do the real damage numbers. There's just too much armour to go through most of the time without a straight shot, that is unless we can figure out the armour of the target and maximise our chances of getting through with more carefully aimed shot. 

 

You actually do not have to know the penetration and armor numbers.

 

Well,

1. You must be close in order to hit him accurately

2. you must be firing at a good angle

 

The only thing that the thickness influences is the distance and the angle.

Distance is not a factor, since you have to close in to hit him accurately none the less

Angle is not that much of a factor because of the immense penetration of the guns, you will only get bounce from really high angles.

 

Knowing the numbers does not help you that much, like You will know at which angles You will bounce and at which distances You might get lucky citadels. but these can be guestimated, most ships have similar IZs.

It is far, far less influential knowledge compared to WoT.

 

what is this BS, write a book dude

 

What is this comment, go read a book.

 

[Elgerino]

He's trying to make some sort of point? Probably. 

 

The only thing that the thickness influences is the distance and the angle.

Distance is not a factor, since you have to close in to hit him accurately none the less

Angle is not that much of a factor because of the immense penetration of the guns, you will only get bounce from really high angles.

 

Most of the time, yes. Other times I think the difference in the ships is so great it's hard to tell exactly what happened. Take my battle with an Atago, for instance. I'd gotten myself in a situation where the Atago had closed range on the ice map, torps are imminent. I save my salvo for when he comes about, no cruiser at this sort of range survives such a straight shot salvo. He comes about, I unleash 9 16'' NC shells, eight hit the ship, most of them hit the belt. Now, were this any other cruiser, a salvo of this magnitude centre mass in the hull would hit the citadel enough times to blow him up there and then. But this time, there was no citadel penetrations at all. I did a mere 12k damage. 

 

So why is this? The answer must be the arrangement of the citadel, thinner at the centre than most cruisers. How would I need to adjust my aim? The fact is, without being put in the same situation many times, trial and error is difficult. It's the same case with a lot of ships, most of us can make due without knowing the specifics of how we got this citadel or how we didn't get another, but am I really wrong for wanting to understand the game on a greater level? I can't be wrong for wanting to know for sure which section of the ship I should aim for at range and which spot I should hit with maximum force when we're close. A general understanding, that you should aim for the front turrets at maximum range and centre mass/below the turrets at close sometimes doesn't cut it and it's those sometimes that bother me.