Asmeroth Beta Tester 49 posts 5,026 battles Report post #1 Posted July 28, 2015 While it only really applies to CVs it should be punished hard. Its annoying when you get close to a CV with any ship and he just uses his TBs to kill himself. Its the same crap as Arty in WoT and i think you should loose like 1 mil Creds+ if you do that. Or loose all XP on that Ship. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #2 Posted July 28, 2015 They get penalty for damaging a friendly ship. But if I have understood correctly, they also get credited for friendly damage.... But I think the penalty is larger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Pekoe_Darjeeling Weekend Tester 2,385 posts 10,008 battles Report post #3 Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) While it only really applies to CVs it should be punished hard. Its annoying when you get close to a CV with any ship and he just uses his TBs to kill himself. Its the same crap as Arty in WoT and i think you should loose like 1 mil Creds+ if you do that. Or loose all XP on that Ship. Basically If a player decide to destroy his own ship in a situation where there is little to no chance for him, he should be punished because you want free frag... Edited July 28, 2015 by Geralt_z_Rivii365 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #4 Posted July 28, 2015 Basically If a player decide to destroy his own ship in a situation where there is little to no chance for him, he should be punished because you want free frag... There is no honour in suicide. I would at least try to ram the enemy if I could not do anything else and death was certain. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asmeroth Beta Tester 49 posts 5,026 battles Report post #5 Posted July 28, 2015 Basically If a player decide to destroy his own ship in a situation where there is little to no chance for him, he should be punished because you want free frag... Ahhh ok so if he can torp and bomb me without me having a chance to fight back then everything is fine and he can get cred and xp for it. But if i can dmg and kill him because i outplayed him and his team by getting close its totally ok if he blows himself up to deny me the XP and creds for killimg him....interesting logic.... They get penalty for damaging a friendly ship. But if I have understood correctly, they also get credited for friendly damage.... But I think the penalty is larger. Dont think the penalty is really big enough to make people think twice about beeing a dck... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNVSR] Querulous Alpha Tester 821 posts 22,571 battles Report post #6 Posted July 28, 2015 Yes, needs a specific punishment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEOND] Foehamster419 Players 144 posts 5,246 battles Report post #7 Posted July 28, 2015 I have never seen it done but it sounds kind of funny. I'm sure it would make me do a kind of facepalm thing if I do see it. Much like when an Arty in WoT drives into a house and kills itself. I am starting to think that Arty and carrier players are very much alike anyways! Not that I have anything against them, mind you. It just seems to require a specific way of thinking when all I could do when faced with the RTS view of the game was to sell my carrier and forget they actually exist but I suppose that's the only way to actually control the planes in a meaningful way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #8 Posted July 28, 2015 I have never seen it done but it sounds kind of funny. I've seen it once. And that time it was an accident. Enemy CV was trying to torp DD or CA or something and ended up eating his own torps.It was hilarious. So was the chat after that. The CV commander joined in as well apologizing to his team and facepalming with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,375 battles Report post #9 Posted July 28, 2015 Hmm, yeah. It may be an accident sometimes. But I think that is an exception. Wouldnt it be good if it would be handled as team damage? That is in times also not intentional. But you still get punished for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] Jumping_Turtle Beta Tester 32 posts 572 battles Report post #10 Posted July 28, 2015 I've seen it once. And that time it was an accident. Enemy CV was trying to torp DD or CA or something and ended up eating his own torps. Done this myself also once. A DD was getting closer so I set out my TB to hit him. Suddenly he got too close, they made a turn and dropped the torpedo's. Yeah, right next to my carrier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #11 Posted July 28, 2015 Done this myself also once. A DD was getting closer so I set out my TB to hit him. Suddenly he got too close, they made a turn and dropped the torpedo's. Yeah, right next to my carrier. You deserve a +1 for confessing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asmeroth Beta Tester 49 posts 5,026 battles Report post #12 Posted July 28, 2015 Done this myself also once. A DD was getting closer so I set out my TB to hit him. Suddenly he got too close, they made a turn and dropped the torpedo's. Yeah, right next to my carrier. I admit that there lies a problem. Shouldnt punish accidents but if it is done intentionally( no idea if thats the right word ;) ) it should....sadly its most likely impossible to distinguish....or you just give the XP/Creds for the kill to the guy nearest to the CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #13 Posted July 28, 2015 Basically If a player decide to destroy his own ship in a situation where there is little to no chance for him, he should be punished because you want free frag... Yeah, and every BB-Captain should get a button and a hotkey for a "Mutsu-Maneuvre" so the moment he hears those special beeps while tunnelvisioning and straightlining he can blow his ship up without the CV getting any xp or credits - sounds fun, huh?. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WJDE] Jumping_Turtle Beta Tester 32 posts 572 battles Report post #14 Posted July 28, 2015 You deserve a +1 for confessing that. I really laughed for a few minuts after it happend. Saw him coming and just refuelled my TB's. So stressed as hell and sending them out in a hurry on a automatic attack. Saw him getting closer and was confident I would survive his attack. well ... untill my planes made a sudden turn and arrived at the right side of my CV. The DD was on the left side and me in the middle. And yes, shouting 'no no no no no no' isnt going to help in that case hahaha. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #15 Posted July 28, 2015 Perhaps you should share that in the WTF-moments -thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HIRR] Exodude Alpha Tester 417 posts 5,983 battles Report post #16 Posted July 28, 2015 I'd do it, just to troll you, because threads like these make it worth it tbh Also, this isnt the first time a thread was made about this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #17 Posted July 28, 2015 Lol on the first page there is another thread complaining about the high number of draws - you should thank yourself that they are at least making it decisive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #18 Posted July 28, 2015 There is no honour in suicide. I would at least try to ram the enemy if I could not do anything else and death was certain. well, technically, he suicides to avoid the dishonour of defeat... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #19 Posted July 28, 2015 There is no honour in suicide. I would at least try to ram the enemy if I could not do anything else and death was certain. Tell that to the Japanese pilots. That's what I do or try to do, did work once in CBT and I rammed two ships in one go. Sailed through the first BB and hit a CA but didn't get the kill for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #20 Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) Tell that to the Japanese pilots. That's what I do or try to do, did work once in CBT and I rammed two ships in one go. Sailed through the first BB and hit a CA but didn't get the kill for some reason. well, technically, he suicides to avoid the dishonour of defeat...Well .. I did not think my statement through now did I? BANZAAAAAI!!!! Edited July 28, 2015 by YukiEiriKun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Memo1991 Players 67 posts 784 battles Report post #21 Posted July 28, 2015 Well, I am against the suggestion, DD player or even CA who snick thru the map and highly risk him self should be rewarded to fight the CVs. it requires too much attention and focus to figure out the location of the enemy CVs so suiciidng his ship should never be an option. Even if the WG decided to add such an option for all ships. And then tell me who would CVs player feel if loosing most of his planes to lunch torpedoes attack on BB that suiciding him self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #22 Posted July 28, 2015 Well .. I did not think my statement through now did I? BANZAAAAAI!!!! It was too nice an opportunity to miss, sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_hqO9wrVAEQYQ Players 381 posts Report post #23 Posted July 28, 2015 Well until they fix lots of issues in this game then what's the problem. 2 games tonight. 2CV's a side. 1st game I'm in my shiturka . TB planes drop over a hilly island and drop a perfect lines of torps. I get away with about 1/8 of my health left. I actually managed to finish the game and we won. To say I wasn't impressed with the UFO planes is a bit of an understatement. I felt like leaving the battle there and then. Next game in a Kongo. It was my turn for the TB's to pick on me most of the game. We lost which is not the issue. The issue is that all I did all game was dodge torps. Which is not fun for me but prolly is a blast for the CV player. I ended the game stopped sat in the middle of the map taunting him to finish me. As I was bored s***less with it. So unless WG sorts out issues like this then I can fully understand people DC'ing or suiciding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demigur Players 86 posts Report post #24 Posted July 29, 2015 If you push the enemy to suiside, you've already won. Whats the problem here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Memo1991 Players 67 posts 784 battles Report post #25 Posted July 29, 2015 If you push the enemy to suiside, you've already won. Whats the problem here? yeah, sure you will win BUT you want be rewarded !! loosing and rewarded better than Wining nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
