Brett50 Beta Tester 236 posts 3,050 battles Report post #1 Posted July 25, 2015 it may just be me but it seems that my premium ships don't seem to really make any more credits for me than my regular ships which means that at the moment i'm unlocking ships and modules way faster than I can afford to buy/equip them (when even a module is more than a million credits, it's a real credit grind). One decent game in my Aoba will make me 100k-250k credits, a decent game in the Atago seems to make about 200k, the Atago is a good fun ship to play but for the money spent on it, I'd like it to be a bit more of a money maker like the tier 8 prems in WoT. Other than this I think the whole economy could do with a bit of a look over in WoWS, I'm currently running a prem account so I'd hate to see what the credit gind would be like without one! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genai Beta Tester 675 posts 1,928 battles Report post #2 Posted July 25, 2015 You are terribly wrong! Just wait till hardcore people show up and start convincing you how its perfectly fine and correct! P.S. Ive been saying the same since 0.4.0 public test... even with premium economy is broken But them in their CV where they can abuse how OP CVs are and get insane profits... for them everything is fine and profits are crazy! Its just that they forgot how game is about "roles" and "teamplay" and how some die more than others and deal less dmg... and have less ships in game they are favorable against... well... those are minor things... even tho they cut profit by more than 50% for some classes... but who cares, right? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #3 Posted July 25, 2015 Can't there be any thread without CV bashing? I do not know about Atago, but in case of Murmansk in good games I easily make 300-350k profit (and in very good games well over 400k). For similar games I was getting in Omaha 200-250k profits, so it seems fine to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grouchy116 Sailing Hamster 331 posts Report post #4 Posted July 25, 2015 IMHO on average Atago is not really a good moneymaker. Murmansk and Atlanta are better money makers. It's easier to get a good game on those two. However if you have a good game on the Atago you still will make 400k+ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #5 Posted July 25, 2015 Premium ships also have indirectly higher income. Typically their servicing cost and repair costs are lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainlafay Beta Tester 64 posts 13,161 battles Report post #6 Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) My highest earning game of all times in my Atlanta + Zulu credit flag and premium bonus yielded ~620k. I can imagine that progressing past t8 is really painful without premium though, I'm at t9 now and even with premium account earnings are meagre, thanks to 200k repair bills. Edited July 25, 2015 by captainlafay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #7 Posted July 25, 2015 I've made 500k with Atago in my best game with her, 400k with Gremmy, ~420k with Yubari. Only Sims has not really worked for me since OBT started. The most I made in a regular ship was ~400k but that an exceptional battle. ps all income figures with premium account, without credit influencing flags. I don't think the economy is that broken, people just either are to bad to make a decent profit, or they expect that decent profit to be higher than the dev's intend it to be. This is not a game where you're expected to reach end tier in a single week or something ( well unless you're exceptionally good and have no life other than playing WoWs ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROGUE] SunSkaRe Beta Tester 268 posts 27,066 battles Report post #8 Posted July 26, 2015 For me its not actually the economy that is wrong... but I find a bit "funny" the price certain things cost... Starting with upgrades price and ending on the always hilarious cost of ships... like for example: North Carolina - 18 millions ish... Iowa - 29 millions ish Montana - 20 millions ish... How come someone had the idea that a tier 8 ship cost around the same as a tier X and the tier 9 costs like 1/3 more then the next tier X? lol much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowman79 Beta Tester 143 posts 5,228 battles Report post #9 Posted July 26, 2015 Economy is broken alright... Made more credits in the Wyoming every game compared to the Arkansas Beta,,,with the same amount of damage output, same with Kuma vs Yubari...also it's funny that I have to pay 3m for a ship and another 3m to buy the upgraded modules...about half of the original cost would be the right amount... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rem3mberMe Beta Tester 445 posts 1,310 battles Report post #10 Posted July 26, 2015 Yes my average income on Wyoming was arround 250k credits. On Arkanssas beta it was 250k in the best battle. Still Ryojo was perfect for making money averaging 300-350k in every battle for 70k dmg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inAbag Beta Tester 221 posts 676 battles Report post #11 Posted July 26, 2015 That's because unlike in WoT, the premium ships in this game don't have a higher credit modifier compared to regular ships. Their modifier is only slightly higher. The biggest reason why premium ships can make more money is because their ammo and repair costs are significantly lower. WG never game the premium ships in this game good credit modifiers so if you take almost no damage you will barely see a big difference compared to your regular ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nibiru_star Beta Tester 117 posts 365 battles Report post #12 Posted July 26, 2015 It's broken so you spend more money on the game, i need to be able to pay for things on a premium account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #13 Posted July 26, 2015 That's because unlike in WoT, the premium ships in this game don't have a higher credit modifier compared to regular ships. Their modifier is only slightly higher. The biggest reason why premium ships can make more money is because their ammo and repair costs are significantly lower. WG never game the premium ships in this game good credit modifiers so if you take almost no damage you will barely see a big difference compared to your regular ships. if this is true, what is even a point of buying a premium ship? they need to make visibly more credits, compared to normal ships. otherwise nobody rational will buy them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #14 Posted July 26, 2015 if this is true, what is even a point of buying a premium ship? they need to make visibly more credits, compared to normal ships. otherwise nobody rational will buy them? Training captains? When you unlock/progress to the next tier your captain is not capable of using all skills fully until you finish retraining, I use my premium ships to finish this retraining because in a premium ship the captain has all his skills fully even while retraining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatra Moderator 1,787 posts Report post #15 Posted July 26, 2015 Premium ships also have indirectly higher income. Typically their servicing cost and repair costs are lower. At this moment servicing costs and repairing of premium ships are the same as on non-premium ships. For example max. repairing cost of Omaha (in all configurations), Murmansk, Marblehead and Marblehead Lima is 13 000 credits, HE/AP ammo for all of them costs 10 credits / piece, torpedoes costs 50 cr. / piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #16 Posted July 26, 2015 Training captains? When you unlock/progress to the next tier your captain is not capable of using all skills fully until you finish retraining, I use my premium ships to finish this retraining because in a premium ship the captain has all his skills fully even while retraining. You are really suggesting that borderline obscure feature most people don't even use is good reason to justify castrating of premium ships most important one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #17 Posted July 26, 2015 You are really suggesting that borderline obscure feature most people don't even use is good reason to justify castrating of premium ships most important one? The question was 'what is the purpose of premium ships' ( loosely translated ) and I gave my reason to play them. I'm not saying I think premiums shouldn't have a higher credit multiplier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #18 Posted July 26, 2015 Training captains? When you unlock/progress to the next tier your captain is not capable of using all skills fully until you finish retraining, I use my premium ships to finish this retraining because in a premium ship the captain has all his skills fully even while retraining. here comes the catch! by not buying a premium ship you save your gold, than simply get the instant retraining option. more bang for the buck, or how do you say. and if im not mistaking you get quite a few retrains out of premium ships worth of gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtXpwnz Beta Tester 1,160 posts 377 battles Report post #19 Posted July 26, 2015 When running with premium account, decent player (=decent ingame results) shouldn't have an issue even when playing 2 lines at the same time until tier 8 I would say (I am assuming selling "old" ships and buying new ones). I have one main line and lots of low tier stuff (recently bought Isokaze, St.Louis and Furutaka). However, for free-loaders, this economy has to be disasterous. Premium ships make little more credits than regular ships, but they are interesting ships that are fun to play and you can train your captains. Nothing wrong with them imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King_Dhuum Beta Tester 90 posts 783 battles Report post #20 Posted July 26, 2015 Do you earn more money in tier 8 than in tier 5, like you do in WoT? Cause i used to get many 150-200k games without premium in my omaha. Since i bought premium and play cleveland and new mexico i can easily get up to 400k. But i really wonder if the amount of money goes up to a max at tier 8 and then plummet down to basically nothing (or negative) for tier 10. Or are mid tiers better for credit grinding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #21 Posted July 26, 2015 here comes the catch! by not buying a premium ship you save your gold, than simply get the instant retraining option. more bang for the buck, or how do you say. and if im not mistaking you get quite a few retrains out of premium ships worth of gold. This is why I don't think premium ships should earn equal money. I don't know the exact multipliers, I made 500+k in Atago, and 400k in regular ships ( with premium account ). There seems to be a difference, though that 400k was I think with a tier 5 ( Minekaze ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inAbag Beta Tester 221 posts 676 battles Report post #22 Posted July 26, 2015 if this is true, what is even a point of buying a premium ship? they need to make visibly more credits, compared to normal ships. otherwise nobody rational will buy them? Luckely for WG the majority of the community in incapable of thinking rationaly. Buying a premium ship is pointless, you're better off buying premium time and using that to grind more credits and exp in your regular ships. You can't even propperly train your captains in the premium ships because this game for some bizarre reason doesn't have an "accelerated training" ability on elite ships. One really has to wonder what the freakin point is of buying a premium ship... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #23 Posted July 26, 2015 Luckely for WG the majority of the community in incapable of thinking rationaly. Buying a premium ship is pointless, you're better off buying premium time and using that to grind more credits and exp in your regular ships. You can't even propperly train your captains in the premium ships because this game for some bizarre reason doesn't have an "accelerated training" ability on elite ships. One really has to wonder what the freakin point is of buying a premium ship... This sentence is so wrong, you can perfectly train captains on premium ships, you can't accelerate training on regular ships even after eliting them. Those are two very different things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #24 Posted July 26, 2015 You get the same reward for all tiers, but ship repair goes up. If you want credits - play a ship that is cheaper to repair, and you feel good with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnboardG1 Beta Tester 202 posts 4,490 battles Report post #25 Posted July 26, 2015 Training captains? When you unlock/progress to the next tier your captain is not capable of using all skills fully until you finish retraining, I use my premium ships to finish this retraining because in a premium ship the captain has all his skills fully even while retraining. Whoa whoa whoa. Is this actually a thing? Because if it's a thing then I'm doing this more often! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
