The usual thread, loading times...

[NecroFlex]

Yes, yes, i know, this has been said too many times, but WG didn't listen so it must be said many more times.

 

The loading is bad, like, terribad, it's like playing BBs, pure RNG, sometimes you get in instantly, sometimes you get in when 1min already passed...

 

The loading can be so bad, i can do my laundry, taxes or even take a shower while it loads in, Windows XP loaded in faster and that sh*t took long to load...

 

/rant?

[Demigur]

Takes me 10 sec max. And my computer is 4 years old. What the heck are you using? 

[Ew_]

First things first

Do you have an SSD or Mechanical disk?

If it is mechanical, is it defragmentated?

Do you have pagefile disabled? (should be on)

 

If you do not have an SSD, do treat yourself to one, install OS and all programs/games on it, it is the best PC upgrade you can do if you do not have one already. Also there are bugs, the game crashed three times for me today on launch due to Draw Call errors.

[YukiEiriKun]

I installed WoWs on my SSD last week when I re-arranged stuff and got rid of WoT.

 

After that the loads have been "instant" and I' always in the battle with 28 seconds on the countdown clock.

[Sensaia]

I have it installed on a new black WD HDD, at times i can get in to the game with 26 seconds on the clock and at times it can take up to a minute to get into the game even when the map is one that i played before.

they will fix it sooner or later.

[NecroFlex]

I have a 128GB SSD, WoWs is installed on it. Issue is, that like i said before, it's pure RNG, some will say it's cause it's beta but that's just an excuse, the loading times can ''easily'' be fixed if WG would actually focus on them, but they can't cause they are reskinning Omahas to put out as premiums

 

But really, i tried to reinstall the game, hoping there was a corrupt file or sth that was messing it up, nope. the biggest issue is if it happens when you're in a BB or a CV, since BBs take long to get from A to B and CVs take a while to get all the planes up in the air, maybe DDs too since they wanna go to the cap and spam torps or anything like that.

[___Canaris___]

never had loading issues, what's your PC specs?

 

[ScarecrowCZ]

If you use Eset Antivirus or Smart security, try enabling gamer mode - it really helps.

[NecroFlex]

never had loading issues, what's your PC specs?

 

 

Intel core i5 3470 3.2 GHz

ASUS H61M-K

AMD Radeon R9 270x

8GB 1600MHz ram

1TB WD black edition

128GB SSD (corsiar)

750W PSU

 

i'm running the game on high settings, 1920x1080 (haven't tried 3D yet, doesn't seem to work)

[Alteisen]

My loading time is always quick, usually 20 seconds before the game starts. It is running from a Samsung 830pro/850pro. It's probaly best not to install games on a hard drive of it streams the textures heavily.

[Blue_Qbe]

I'm playing on msi GE70 gaming laptop and with medium settings i get in about 15-20 sec before Game Start, only the first battle loading time is longer , something like max 5 sec into the battle.

Loading times, at least for me are definitely shorter than in CBT.

[Ew_]

 

Intel core i5 3470 3.2 GHz

ASUS H61M-K

AMD Radeon R9 270x

8GB 1600MHz ram

1TB WD black edition

128GB SSD (corsiar)

750W PSU

 

i'm running the game on high settings, 1920x1080 (haven't tried 3D yet, doesn't seem to work)

 

Is your SSD filled to the brim or does it have at least a couple of GBs free space?

[Armo1000]

I have said this before and i will say it again. Its not the PC thats the problem regarding this issue. while having a super PC may help and even fix the problem its still not a case of if you have the loading times that your PC is crap. My loading times used to be terrible before OBT but are allot better now. However even so i still load in over a minute late sometimes. I have no such problem with any other game(including WOT that runs very fast in the HD mode) so from what i have experienced and heard from other people it is not the PCs that need fixing.

 

So quit with the bloody SSD thing cus that may not even fix the problem.

[Ew_]

Just like the launcher not working for some people, its a vital component the user most often is missing and have installed other programs blocking it or never installed them at all, running pirated/outdated windows versions that are missing these components etc. Sure their PC is fine! Their OS components and settings? Not so.

 

WoWS itself requires quite strictly your OS to not be messed up by incompetence.

[Sybeck]

I have said this before and i will say it again. Its not the PC thats the problem regarding this issue. while having a super PC may help and even fix the problem its still not a case of if you have the loading times that your PC is crap. My loading times used to be terrible before OBT but are allot better now. However even so i still load in over a minute late sometimes. I have no such problem with any other game(including WOT that runs very fast in the HD mode) so from what i have experienced and heard from other people it is not the PCs that need fixing.

 

So quit with the bloody SSD thing cus that may not even fix the problem.

 

I too would like to know how this is a PC, HD or SSD issue.  This has always seemed to me a server side problem that has some bottlenecking issue.  If I can load in 20-25 secs in some battles and then join late in others while nothing has changed on my PC, e.g. new programs running in background, then the problem would point to a server side issue in my mind.  I'm presuming all maps, models and textures are clientside so they should be insta-loading regardless of whether you have HD or SSD taking into account that you have a reasonable setup.  

[KPtja]

 

I too would like to know how this is a PC, HD or SSD issue. 

 

Since some people have been playing hundreds of games without seeing this logic states that it is at least combination of user PC and game if not fully user PC.

[Sybeck]

 

Since some people have been playing hundreds of games without seeing this logic states that it is at least combination of user PC and game if not fully user PC.

 

Well without knowing all those people's connection setups, speeds, ISP providers and distance from game server then you can't categorically rule out a server side problem, but I don't see how it's a HD/SSD issue unless somebody can explain to me how it is.  For the record I'm running WoWS off a SSD and I run into this problem in about 10%-20% of matches.  In addition I'm on i7 quads 3.4Ghz, 16g RAM with an ASUS nVidia GTX680 card.  I have 100/10 down and up speeds and WoWS is totally 100% approved on my firewall so go figure *shrug*

[YukiEiriKun]

I have said this before and i will say it again. Its not the PC thats the problem regarding this issue. while having a super PC may help and even fix the problem its still not a case of if you have the loading times that your PC is crap. My loading times used to be terrible before OBT but are allot better now. However even so i still load in over a minute late sometimes. I have no such problem with any other game(including WOT that runs very fast in the HD mode) so from what i have experienced and heard from other people it is not the PCs that need fixing.

 

So quit with the bloody SSD thing cus that may not even fix the problem.

 

I too would like to know how this is a PC, HD or SSD issue.  This has always seemed to me a server side problem that has some bottlenecking issue.  If I can load in 20-25 secs in some battles and then join late in others while nothing has changed on my PC, e.g. new programs running in background, then the problem would point to a server side issue in my mind.  I'm presuming all maps, models and textures are clientside so they should be insta-loading regardless of whether you have HD or SSD taking into account that you have a reasonable setup.  

 

Well let me tell you about my experience.

I have a decent setup, i5 4670K / 8gigs memory / 120 SSD for OS / 3 teras of HDD for all the other thingies. GTX970 for the blings in the games. 100/10 fibre connection.

Before last Wednesday I had WoWs on one of my HDD's. First battles took a loooong time to load. Actually it took very long to load when I started the game. This behaviour started after USN BB's and IJN CV's were introduced.

 

But last Wednesday I re-installed WoWs to my SSD after some re-organizing and getting rid of WoT (as I said earlier).

Now, instant loading. Always in battle around 28 seconds left on the countdown clock.

 

Now tell me, oh mighty HW-wizards, how is that not PC / HW related? Where do you think the game loads models and textures? From the net?

[Armo1000]

 

 

Well let me tell you about my experience.

I have a decent setup, i5 4670K / 8gigs memory / 120 SSD for OS / 3 teras of HDD for all the other thingies. GTX970 for the blings in the games. 100/10 fibre connection.

Before last Wednesday I had WoWs on one of my HDD's. First battles took a loooong time to load. Actually it took very long to load when I started the game. This behaviour started after USN BB's and IJN CV's were introduced.

 

But last Wednesday I re-installed WoWs to my SSD after some re-organizing and getting rid of WoT (as I said earlier).

Now, instant loading. Always in battle around 28 seconds left on the countdown clock.

 

Now tell me, oh mighty HW-wizards, how is that not PC / HW related? Where do you think the game loads models and textures? From the net?

 

Like i said a new SSD may fix the problem. But if every other game you have is running fast with no problems then i just don't see the logic in blaming the PC as the problem. And i remember some time back people saying that they got new SSDs to try and fix the problem only to find that it made no difference. So if most your games are running fine then i don't see the logic in risking buying a new SSD for one game that it may not even fix.

[Sybeck]

But I am running WoWS off a SSD and I occasionally still get the problem the OP refers to.

[Ew_]

But I am running WoWS off a SSD and I occasionally still get the problem the OP refers to.

 

Back in the days my Intel 510 SSDs performance would degrade quite heavily if i never ran Trim after uninstalling programs etc, after a while of refilling it all the time without running trim after i removed data, performance would plummet and never pick up again, only way to solve it was to format, reinstall windows and run trim on it nearly empty.

 

My samsung 830 256GB showed similar symptoms recently after some years of heavy use, when downloading games it would peak out at about 70MB/s write speed and throttle my internet with "disk overloaded". Uninstalling a lot of programs and running samsungs trim didnt help. After formatting and reinstalling Windows the speed is back to normal. Altho on benchmarks it always reached over the specifications, in actual use it suffered. SSDs can be quite...

[Sybeck]

 

Back in the days my Intel 510 SSDs performance would degrade quite heavily if i never ran Trim after uninstalling programs etc, after a while of refilling it all the time without running trim after i removed data, performance would plummet and never pick up again, only way to solve it was to format, reinstall windows and run trim on it nearly empty.

 

My samsung 830 256GB showed similar symptoms recently after some years of heavy use, when downloading games it would peak out at about 70MB/s write speed and throttle my internet with "disk overloaded". Uninstalling a lot of programs and running samsungs trim didnt help. After formatting and reinstalling Windows the speed is back to normal. Altho on benchmarks it always reached over the specifications, in actual use it suffered. SSDs can be quite...

 

Interesting, thanks for that I'll investigate as I've never run Trim though I've swapped a lot of stuff in and out of the drive.

[Rambe]

 

I too would like to know how this is a PC, HD or SSD issue.  This has always seemed to me a server side problem that has some bottlenecking issue.  If I can load in 20-25 secs in some battles and then join late in others while nothing has changed on my PC, e.g. new programs running in background, then the problem would point to a server side issue in my mind.  I'm presuming all maps, models and textures are clientside so they should be insta-loading regardless of whether you have HD or SSD taking into account that you have a reasonable setup.  

 

Except those textures are not instaloading from (at leas bit older) mechanical disk, because WoWS still use "millions" (res folder have ~18k subfolders and ~120k files, total ~12GB, judging from foldernames maps count ~3.4k subfolder and ~27k files total ~4.1GB and ships take ~14k subfolders and ~83k files, total ~6.4GB) of small files instead packing them to together for bigger packages (like WoT did a while back and that did dramatically cut loadingtimes in WoT, it also make patcher to take bit longer to update game but that is small prize to pay) and older mechanical HDDs weaknes is handling lot of small files. Good thing is that atleast WoWS use memory to cache those maps, because with my oldish (~5year) rig first time map load is usually done ~15s after game start but following maches on that same map load ~5s to spare.

[NecroFlex]

 

Is your SSD filled to the brim or does it have at least a couple of GBs free space?

 

it's half filled up.

[KPtja]

 

Back in the days my Intel 510 SSDs performance would degrade quite heavily if i never ran Trim after uninstalling programs etc, after a while of refilling it all the time without running trim after i removed data, performance would plummet and never pick up again, only way to solve it was to format, reinstall windows and run trim on it nearly empty.

 

My samsung 830 256GB showed similar symptoms recently after some years of heavy use, when downloading games it would peak out at about 70MB/s write speed and throttle my internet with "disk overloaded". Uninstalling a lot of programs and running samsungs trim didnt help. After formatting and reinstalling Windows the speed is back to normal. Altho on benchmarks it always reached over the specifications, in actual use it suffered. SSDs can be quite...

 

An in addition (like you mentioned already) you always need empty on your SSD (this guide for example: http://www.howtogeek.com/165542/why-solid-state-drives-slow-down-as-you-fill-them-up/) Write speeds start to suffer, because erase needs to performed before actual write. This can cause lags in your drive as it starts to perform more read-erase-change-write cycles.