Very sneaky WarGaming, very, very sneaky......

[T3ddyBear]

So, with the new Website design and new stats pages for the player, WG have taken their usual professional approach to gamers criticism about "too many draws" and just basically removed the stat from the page now.

 

Do you honestly think that burying your head in the sand and sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la, la, la" that the number of draws will reduce?!?!?

 

What community feedback that is, or should I say more typical of a totalitarian approach to your customers, "we know best, let's remove the threads about draws by removing the stat from the page"... OUTSTANDING customer feedback.

 

I was running close to 9% draws, almost 50% wins, so 40% losses, not according to the stats page, no one ever draws so end of the problem eh WG??

 

What a bunch of clowns you are.

 

Harrier.

[T3ddyBear]

Just checked my stats for the day, 11 games, 5 wins, 4 losses and 2 DRAWS.... yep they still happen WG, your "fix" failed... again...

[soulmask]

yet 9/10 draws people dont bother to cap 

[Loran_Battle]

yet 9/10 draws people dont bother to cap 

 

Oooh, 4 minutes left on the clock. Let's try and find that DD/CV because "no cap kill all" is the best tactic ever and such, because I play WoT and this is exactly the same game.

 

something like that?

[AgarwaenME]

Some web guy changes around some of the stat page.

 

Random player "OMG OMG SEE CONSPIRACY!!!!"

 

And draws are a result of what players do.

[Fedajkin1989]

wow, when I read your post I thought maybe they removed the stat for the number and percentage of draws but you could still at least calculate them yourself by looking at number of wins and defeats, but no, they actually just show the number of wins and no info on losses/draws. GG WG good solution, that will end the discussion on draws for ever.

[ShockPirat]

 

Oooh, 4 minutes left on the clock. Let's try and find that DD/CV because "no cap kill all" is the best tactic ever and such, because I play WoT and this is exactly the same game.

 

something like that?

Some guy threw a bunch of insults at me today because a Cleveland division killed him, and he wanted me to kill them to get revenge (I was in a Furutaka, to make it even funnier), and I went to cap. 4 mins left on timer, and Clevelands were on opposite side of map so I couldn't even reach them in time.

 

 

 

[Sander93]

Oooh, 4 minutes left on the clock. Let's try and find that DD/CV because "no cap kill all" is the best tactic ever and such, because I play WoT and this is exactly the same game.

 

something like that?

 

More like it takes 10 minutes to get from one end of the map to the other which often doesn't leave enough time to cap. 

It usually takes ~15 minutes for a decisive battle and that leaves too little time to finish off the last enemies or to cap. I've had so many battles where at 15-20 minutes the team ends with an advantage in numbers but can't do anything in time anymore to secure a win. 

 

The match timer is simply too short in standard gamemode. 

[Mindfulcrane07]

 

More like it takes 10 minutes to get from one end of the map to the other which often doesn't leave enough time to cap. 

It usually takes ~15 minutes for a decisive battle and that leaves too little time to finish off the last enemies or to cap. I've had so many battles where at 15-20 minutes the team ends with an advantage in numbers but can't do anything in time anymore to secure a win. 

 

The match timer is simply too short in standard gamemode. 

 

i think the problem is the passiveness of the players because i dont think it need to be longer

[AgarwaenME]

 

i think the problem is the passiveness of the players because i dont think it need to be longer

 

Also that the numerical advantage he had was gotten by playing defensively against a team that actually attacked. Why should he be favoured for not playing to win from the beginning?

[Loran_Battle]

 

More like it takes 10 minutes to get from one end of the map to the other which often doesn't leave enough time to cap. 

It usually takes ~15 minutes for a decisive battle and that leaves too little time to finish off the last enemies or to cap. I've had so many battles where at 15-20 minutes the team ends with an advantage in numbers but can't do anything in time anymore to secure a win. 

 

The match timer is simply too short in standard gamemode. 

 

Kind of agree with you. But I have to say that this is mostly because too many people (coughBBplayerscough) sit at the outer edge of their range and as soon as somebody dares shoot at them turn back even further away from the frontlines. Then as soon as the battle has turned in their favour they still stay at that range.

 

People must learn to take into account that battles last 20 minutes and that you need to actually attack and get your hands dirty to get a win. I don't mean #YOLO rushes, but actually keeping pressure on the enemy and not running away even when you outnumber the enemy ships 3to1.

 

Maybe this sounds a bit harsh, and it's definately not pointed at you. Just get annoyed sometimes when I see people that I know must have never even noticed this game has a minimap. And there's a lot of those guys around.

[b101uk]

if a team that has a numerical advantage in the latter stages of a game yet fails to press home a win by capping, then they don't deserve to win, given the rules are clearly known by all beforehand.

[daki]

So, with the new Website design and new stats pages for the player, WG have taken their usual professional approach to gamers criticism about "too many draws" and just basically removed the stat from the page now.

 

Do you honestly think that burying your head in the sand and sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la, la, la" that the number of draws will reduce?!?!?

 

What community feedback that is, or should I say more typical of a totalitarian approach to your customers, "we know best, let's remove the threads about draws by removing the stat from the page"... OUTSTANDING customer feedback.

 

I was running close to 9% draws, almost 50% wins, so 40% losses, not according to the stats page, no one ever draws so end of the problem eh WG??

 

What a bunch of clowns you are.

 

Harrier.

 

As I see, very limited number of players is complaining about draw rates. In beta I was at 6% and did not have much issues with it, and now I have even less with about 3%.

So I wonder what makes you the "spokesman" of the community? To point out, I have no issues when you speak in your name, but please do not try to somehow present it as community opinion.

Speaking of new stats page, what type of WG conspiracy do you believe is there concerning the fact that the % of lost games is no longer present either?

Last but not least, if you have failed to notice there is a profile tab (summary option) in-game where you can track your beloved draw rate stat (loss rate as well).

 

I understand that you like to complain a lot, but to use your words don't act like a clown

[MaGinty]

I was at about 2% last time I checked.

 

A win is a win. A loss is a loss. A draw is a loss. I see a tie game so infrequently that just knowing my win rate is fine with me.

[Aerroon]

I hope they add the draws amount back. I want to know that one.

 

I prefer knowing how many draws and losses I had to just counting draws as the same thing as losses.

[BrushWolf2]

Just checked my stats for the day, 11 games, 5 wins, 4 losses and 2 DRAWS.... yep they still happen WG, your "fix" failed... again...

 

The stats on the portal only show your total battles and how many were wins. The in game profile does show complete stats.

[Crooq_Lionfang]

A win is a win. A loss is a loss. A draw is a loss. I see a tie game so infrequently that just knowing my win rate is fine with me.

Pretty much this. In essence and as far as XP/credit calculation goes, a draw is the same as a loss, so no idea why someone cares. Besides, I highly doubt they did it to silence people complaining about draws. 

[Del_Mare]

cool, finally we can see the achivements on the stats page =)

[Nodorf_]

You can still see your draw% ingame tho, if you're really interested in seeing it...

[SBS]

I don't really see that many draws. I have played 100+ games and got 2 draws total I believe. Sure there used to be a hell of a lot more in the old Domination game type, but since they changed it so the team with most points wins, even if you don't reach 1000, it really helped.

[Orree]

I don't agree that a draw is a loss.  Draws are draws and losses are losses.  Draws are certainly non-wins (they are also non-losses), but quite often (at least in my experience) one team has done something affirmative to force and/or "win" a draw (dropping cap points or whatever) and that's not nothing.  I would much rather have a draw than a loss.  There's a reason the term "draw" exists.

 

I think all three buckets should be shown and continue to be tracked.   

 

During CBT, I think I was at about 7 or 8% draws.  I think so far in OBT, i'm running at a bit less than 3%.  I don't know how people are having 10%.  That's nuts...

 

As far as the OP goes....yes...quite sneaky.  Weird they'd bother to do that....

 

 

[Hesp]

8.8% here... 

 

 

[ajb13]

Don't think it's a conspiracy to silence, but I would like to see the draw and loss stats re-instated.

 

Started playing the Kongo yesterday and it's win rate was terrible, but that was because I'd won 7, lost 8 and drawn 7. All of those draws were hard fought where we snatched a certain victory from the enemy and the few of us who remained could be justly proud.

 

A draw isn't a win, but it isn't a loss either.

[delaci76]

Who cares?

[ajb13]

Who cares?

 

 

Certainly not those who throw the towel in as soon as they think they cannot win