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share all XP equally between "division" members

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i know this sounds mental, but even as a stop-gap would it be possible?

 

so if you have CA-CA-CV in a division, or whatever, if you cover/support/do stuff that doesnt involve getting kills you wont get penalised if you succeed as a UNIT 

 

or even make it an "opt in" tick box in the GROUP window in 'harbour' ?

 

add a caveat it only works within 2 Tiers of top ship to prevent "powerlevelling", no other drawbacks ?

 

 

 

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Fine in theory but then you'll be inundated with n00b platoons of XP boosting their lower tier buddies.  

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So basically if 2 out of 3 players have premium account, a 3rd (without having premium account) would be getting the same xp as those with premium account?

 

...Just NO!

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So basically if 2 out of 3 players have premium account, a 3rd (without having premium account) would be getting the same xp as those with premium account?

 

...Just NO!

 

well no because it would divide the XP then you would get Premium/x% +xp Flag/etc added after ? :p

 

 

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Fine in theory but then you'll be inundated with n00b platoons of XP boosting their lower tier buddies.  

 

 

hence the 2-tier cap on range ? ;)

 

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well no because it would divide the XP then you would get Premium/x% +xp Flag/etc added after ? :p

 

 

 

Also what if you play the best game of your life and two other division members play the worst, what kind of an xp reward would it be for your effort, while those two players that played a shitty game would be getting a nice reward... It would send out a really bad message and it is a really bad idea, just think about it a bit...
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I could go for this.

 

The restriction should be as Eshaede said: Only Base XP shared, premium etc applied afterwards.

 

No troll platoons allowed. No tier spread at all. There is no need for it.

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Also what if you play the best game of your life and two other division members play the worst, what kind of an xp reward would it be for your effort, while those two players that played a shitty game would be getting a nice reward... It would send out a really bad message and it is a really bad idea, just think about it a bit...

 

i get where youre coming from, and if you are in a random "LFG" division, then make it optional 

 

but if you play with the same bunch of people in Clan or whatever, wouldnt it massively improve the rewards for teamplay? which is something that is missing almost all the time in the "charge of the lemmings"

 

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hence the 2-tier cap on range ? ;)

 

 

You know, that sentence failed to register :) 
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i get where youre coming from, and if you are in a random "LFG" division, then make it optional 

 

but if you play with the same bunch of people in Clan or whatever, wouldnt it massively improve the rewards for teamplay? which is something that is missing almost all the time in the "charge of the lemmings"

 

 

+1

 

Make it an optional tick box in the Division window. If you play with a regular group of players good and bad games will average out.

 

This might inadvertently solve problems in other threads. The Escorting issue for one. CA/CL will have a good reason to support CV/BBs in their Division without being penalized XP wise.

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Yes yes yes... I feel bad when divisioned up teammates in battleship and or cruiser occupy an enemy battleship long enough for me to sneak up in my destroyer torp and take the kill.

 

I end up with a ton of damage done and experience when that result was brought about by a team effort.

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So basicaly your wining tactic is park 2 ca next to cv and those ca are pissed off becouse they got zero xp, so you want to change that?

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So basicaly your wining tactic is park 2 ca next to cv and those ca are pissed off becouse they got zero xp, so you want to change that?

 

 

its called "teamwork".

and sometimes yes

or using destroyers as SCREENS for BBs, to stop them getting torpedod

or using Cruisers to SCREEN BBs from aircraft

 

or other things the ships are designed for, not just running at the nearest cap point and hoping to get a kill before taking a salvo ?

 

contributing to a win by any other method than actual kills should NOT penalise you, as it currently does. 

 

....whats your point ?

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its called "teamwork".

 

If the CV doesnt stay at the map border all the time,and gets a little closer to the fight, then his escorts can participate in the fighting while still beeing able to help him out if something goes wrong
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Wouldn't this idea get abused. Team up with my platoon mate and go make a cup of tea, come back to some XP for doing nothing.

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Wouldn't this idea get abused. Team up with my platoon mate and go make a cup of tea, come back to some XP for doing nothing.

 

Uhhh, do you realize we're talking about a GAME ? Used for entertainment ? If your only way to have fun is to see your XP level increasing, mate your life seems sad.

 

OP, this is one of the best ideas i've read on this forum. It obviously needs some twinking to prevent abuse, but there's definitely something there.

 

So basicaly your wining tactic is park 2 ca next to cv and those ca are pissed off becouse they got zero xp, so you want to change that?

 

 

And what's your idea of a winning tactic, o Sun Tzu ? The lemming train ?

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Althouhgh there should be some kind of "reward" (in lack of better word) for divisioning, the idea of splitting the combined xp of all division members, sounds like a baddy to me.

 

I would perhaps prefer something like 5% increased xp for a 2-member division and 8% of a 3-member division?

Would that be incentive enough to join up with someone?

 

A cut through split of xp is not desirable however.

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I could get behind this. But it should be fully optional and no tier spread. And maybe there should be a restriction in place that the difference in exp between participants can't be too big, so that one member isn't leeching off the others. And I think there should be a small bonus if all division members are in top 3 in the team. As an incentive to play better. :)

 

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Fine in theory but then you'll be inundated with n00b platoons of XP boosting their lower tier buddies.  

 

this

 

It is always a good practice to think how innocent ideas can be turned out to become monstrosities, because it is in the gamers nature to find exploits wherever they can. This would turn out to become power leveling with enormous amounts of high tier squads that tag along some T1 players with them, ruining the game for everyone else. 

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This forum would do a lot better if people bothered reading the previous posts.

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NO SHARED EXP !!! you want exp EARN IT

 

Pretty much this. If the rewards for protecting your CV/BB mate from enemy planes are fair and enough is an entirely different matter,  but in general I'm against just sharing XP. 

 

The thing with divisions is, there is a potential reward already. Divisions, especially between people that know each other and have alternative means of communication in battle (sitting in the same room, TS, etc) have a much easier time communicating and potentially and influence the battle accordingly in order to collect that 50% bonus to base XP for winning.

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this

 

It is always a good practice to think how innocent ideas can be turned out to become monstrosities, because it is in the gamers nature to find exploits wherever they can. This would turn out to become power leveling with enormous amounts of high tier squads that tag along some T1 players with them, ruining the game for everyone else. 

 

Could you first read and write second? The points you mention were covered already.

What is it with people voicing their opinions without even reading a thread?

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