Furutaka...poor girl, please adjust ANY of its stats, preferrably positively this time ;)

[Andreevson]

That refit is actualy what Aoba is. Furutaka and Aoba is same ship, just diffrent refit structures

 

Well... kinda. The difference is about the same as a fully upgraded phoenix and a stock Omaha.

[RepSrb]

well, with furutaka i finaly understood why japanese lost the war...

[MudMonkey]

This article here (sorry its in german) said, that the Furutaka is bad.Up to now changes to improve it were without success. (Die Furutaka ist schlecht. Bisher hat keine Änderung geholfen, daran etwas zu ändern.)

Well, the only problems I have with it so far are the guns. Increase the turn rate/rate of fire/penetration values for AP and I am happy. Even if it is just one of those points.

[TheSargon]

Just one thing you missed, upgrading the guns will give you 17 seconds reload instead of the 21 seconds.

 

Devs know the Furutaka is bad, but they said they don't know what to do with her. It's rather stupid isn't it.. all these suggestions flying around and they say they have no idea..!

 

increase dpm on the guns and teh rotations, and thats all you need

[RepSrb]

common i play all jap lines and got to T-5 (T-6 Carrier) and furutaka really messed up my score and stats and its becoming a grueling grind which is even more pronounced since it gives so low exp in battles. kuma should be higher tier then this.

[YukiEiriKun]

common i play all jap lines and got to T-5 (T-6 Carrier) and furutaka really messed up my score and stats and its becoming a grueling grind which is even more pronounced since it gives so low exp in battles. kuma should be higher tier then this.

 

I'd say anything else but CV's are messing your stats.

Av. XP on BB's: 640

Av. XP on CA's: 671

Av. XP on DD's: 681

Av. XP on CV's: 1139

 

But I admit, your Furutaka av. XP is 568 against Kuma's 845. You have better hit rate with Furu, perhaps you go too close too quickly (which is my usual mistake) when shooting it out with the enemy?

[RepSrb]

 

I'd say anything else but CV's are messing your stats.

Av. XP on BB's: 640

Av. XP on CA's: 671

Av. XP on DD's: 681

Av. XP on CV's: 1139

 

But I admit, your Furutaka av. XP is 568 against Kuma's 845. You have better hit rate with Furu, perhaps you go too close too quickly (which is my usual mistake) when shooting it out with the enemy?

 

i never bought anything for money , or had premium so you can hm... how about  http://img.memecdn.com/Big-Cup-of-Shut-The-[edited]-Up_o_94445.jpg

[gumpbert]

I have just returned to play after the open beta start and was a bit worried by the reports about how bad the Furutaka is. Was it nerfed since it was introduced? I quite liked it in CBT. Was anything changed since then?

[nake53]

Furutaka is pretty awesome for its tier, 203 mm ap can annihilate pretty much any ca/cl and if you're lucky even low tier bbs and to top it off it has torpedoes.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Omama - 22 Matches (6/13/3) *that ship is cursed!*  - Survived: 6 - per match: 1.151 Exp, 37.552 Damage, 1,09 Kills, 1,36 plane Kills, 35% Hit-% Main Guns, 6% Hit-% Torpedoes

 

Funny enough, I prefer driving the Furutake over the Omama.(Omama is the german version of "Granny"). Omama is not bad, but the guns lack "punch" and it's the usual "put the flames on the target and burn it to cinders" playstyle.

 

Update:

Had a couple more matches with the Omaha today and it seems, I was a bit wrong with my judgement...

30 Matches (11/15/4)  - Survived: 10 - per match: 1.259 Exp, 40.859 Damage, 1,23 Kills, 1,73 plane Kills, 37% Hit-% Main Guns, 7% Hit-% Torpedoes

 

Seems that Cruisers of the same Tier and lower AP is adviseable on the Omaha.

And using unusual tactics is - like driving straight ahead at the target... you still have four guns firing at the target, but show only a minimal silhouette. You WILL get hit, but many targets tend to get suicidal and try to fire as many guns as possible at you, meaning they show their broadsides. And you stick AP in it... and, in the end, a couple torpedoes...

Worked well against BBs, too...

Not a tactic for the faint of heart, and I assure you, it will NOT work against an enemy with at least some brains... but it should work in 60% of the attempts

 

[4venger]

 

Update:

Had a couple more matches with the Omaha today and it seems, I was a bit wrong with my judgement...

30 Matches (11/15/4)  - Survived: 10 - per match: 1.259 Exp, 40.859 Damage, 1,23 Kills, 1,73 plane Kills, 37% Hit-% Main Guns, 7% Hit-% Torpedoes

 

Seems that Cruisers of the same Tier and lower AP is adviseable on the Omaha.

And using unusual tactics is - like driving straight ahead at the target... you still have four guns firing at the target, but show only a minimal silhouette. You WILL get hit, but many targets tend to get suicidal and try to fire as many guns as possible at you, meaning they show their broadsides. And you stick AP in it... and, in the end, a couple torpedoes...

Worked well against BBs, too...

Not a tactic for the faint of heart, and I assure you, it will NOT work against an enemy with at least some brains... but it should work in 60% of the attempts

 

 

Are you using the ( C ) hull? (the third upgrade) If you like gunning more than sticking around BBs i'd recommend mounting the (B) and giving that a go. It gets less AA, but the plus guns per broadside can make enough of a difference to make the Omaha a more agressive peppership.

 

Meanwhile, had mroe matches in the Furu. I got a bit more used to it, but i would love the APs to sometimes pen a BB (its an 8inch on tier 5 after all!), and the RoF combined with accuracy still isnt amazing. However, i cant lie its a good training ship. But shes still bit boring.

[Dont_Care_2015]

Yes, furutaka is a bad ship when you get the omaha that is better.

 

Furutaka needs a buff on the reload times or turret speed.

[Kartoffelmos]

Furutaka bad?

 

 

 

It's a pain to play, but it's not that terrible in performance if I look at my stats with her. I did use +exp flags for each and every battle with her just to get Aoba asap... and Aoba is performing much worse for me then Furutaka did. 

 

'ere ya go!!!! my stats with Furutaka, they are not excellent nor bad, keep in mind I use she to "escort" fellow captains on BBs...   

 

 

 

On the other hand...

 

My stats should mean that I should get a nice win ratio, but alas I don't. Though, I really enjoyed the later parts of the grind, when I played the ship as a sniper and used the frontal armour and convenient torp angles to assault battleships and/or set up ambushes. If only the turret rotation speed was buffed, I believe the ship would be more enjoyable.

[m4inbrain]

 

I love her. Yeah, i know, very low sample size - but this is basically with the stock ship. It won't get much worse with upgrades i suppose. 

 

As was said before, you snipe, and if there's no cruisers to citadel towards yesterday, you go straight for BBs. Sadly, i do that too early in a game, where there's too many of them alive, hence my amazing survivalrate.

[Alighierian]

this isn't directly related to the Furutaka, but more about your post:

You keep mentioning the Aoba, whilst your examples clearly indicate it's the Furutaka you're referring to. Please fix this, as it could lead to confusion (the Aoba is a clear improvement over the Furutaka)

 

 

optinion bout the Furutaka:

Personally I didn't love the Furutaka, but I didn't hate her all that much. She's just a bit annoying to play with her numerous drawbacks.

Once I got the hang of her (dis)abilities I could manage to do some stuff with her. The key is mostly in pre-turning your turrets like a BB,  along with keeping your enemies at range.

[YukiEiriKun]

i never bought anything for money , or had premium so you can hm... how about  http://img.memecdn.com/Big-Cup-of-Shut-The-[edited]-Up_o_94445.jpg

 

What? o_O;

Buying stuff has to do your lower average XP with all other than than carriers how?

Denial much?

 

*****EDIT*****

Anyhow, back to the real matter in hand, Furutaka.

Still I've had nice battles with her regardless the turret traverse. Perhaps my fondness towards the BB's helps there, don't know. But so far I've been able to rack decent scores (average damage 51726) with her so I think I'm doing something right?

[4venger]

this isn't directly related to the Furutaka, but more about your post:

You keep mentioning the Aoba, whilst your examples clearly indicate it's the Furutaka you're referring to. Please fix this, as it could lead to confusion (the Aoba is a clear improvement over the Furutaka)

 

 

optinion bout the Furutaka:

Personally I didn't love the Furutaka, but I didn't hate her all that much. She's just a bit annoying to play with her numerous drawbacks.

Once I got the hang of her (dis)abilities I could manage to do some stuff with her. The key is mostly in pre-turning your turrets like a BB,  along with keeping your enemies at range.

 

I just had to because before they implemented the Furutaka, it was the Aoba that could be grinded from the Kuma, that is why i kept comparing it. (and the two ships are very similar, except the buffed stats for higher tier)

[mtm78]

 

 

On the other hand...

 

My stats should mean that I should get a nice win ratio, but alas I don't. Though, I really enjoyed the later parts of the grind, when I played the ship as a sniper and used the frontal armour and convenient torp angles to assault battleships and/or set up ambushes. If only the turret rotation speed was buffed, I believe the ship would be more enjoyable.

 

 

I love her. Yeah, i know, very low sample size - but this is basically with the stock ship. It won't get much worse with upgrades i suppose. 

 

As was said before, you snipe, and if there's no cruisers to citadel towards yesterday, you go straight for BBs. Sadly, i do that too early in a game, where there's too many of them alive, hence my amazing survivalrate.

 

Both of you have higher avg dmg then me, the sample size is too small to be really conclusive. I did solo most of the Furutaka matches so it's not divisions which raised my wr with it, I put it down to situational awareness perhaps, I do tend to pick the right engagements ( well I try to consciously choose the right one's, not sure if it's working; again too small sample size ). 

 

I'm not sure if avg damage is as much the deciding factor as it is in WoT ( there, according to what I know, avg damage correlates quite linearly with win ratio ).

[YukiEiriKun]

I can't win with Furutaka. I just can't.

And I managed to lower my nice 51k average XP to 49k.

But still I really can't complain. I think I've had only one frustrating defeat and that was my own fault.

So regardless the appalling winrate, I am still liking her.

[mtm78]

I can't win with Furutaka. I just can't.

And I managed to lower my nice 51k average XP to 49k.

But still I really can't complain. I think I've had only one frustrating defeat and that was my own fault.

So regardless the appalling winrate, I am still liking her.

 

Come on, five games is nothing I had a 20 game win streak in my first 25 games or something I looked like a proper unicorn ( which I'm obviously not ). Come back if you have 20 games I bet you'll be happier then

[GrumpyWorm]

Moved

[4venger]

Well i did more dmg in the tier4 Phoenix in 9 battles than i did in the Furu in 14 battles. and i can hit citadels (if RNG allows of course). Yep, dont like its style. Will do it daily doubles and get the Aoba. I hope she didnt get touched.

 

[YukiEiriKun]

Well i did more dmg in the tier4 Phoenix in 9 battles than i did in the Furu in 14 battles. and i can hit citadels (if RNG allows of course). Yep, dont like its style. Will do it daily doubles and get the Aoba. I hope she didnt get touched.

 

I think you must be doing something wrong.. I don't know what, but something.

My average damage with Furu is 49k, Omaha and Mursk both 39k (yay for consistency!)

Dang I can't rack more than 33k average on Kongo (that's how bad I am).

 

Then again, I've only got 5 battles with Furutaka so far and those have been nice ones. So perhaps the RNGesus has been smiling to me.

 

(for comparison, my tier 4 cruisers av.damages are; Kuma; 26k / Phoenix; 27k / Yubari 27k so consistency there as well)

[Celandri]

well just did a small run yesterday before i went to sleep and furutaka is well pretty same as normal IJN ship. Citadel over everywhere so i did the 5 gun manuver (max 30% dec turning and engaging frontaly)

most ships use HE so your healthpool is good way to go, only ships i was mostly afraid of was from those old Alpha/Beta players and or those who had learned to use ap.

 

V Furutaka		3	1	907
Overall Results Battles 3 Victories 1 (33%) Battles survived 3 Damage caused 125,925 Warships destroyed 6 Aircraft destroyed 5 Base capture 0 Base defense 84   Average Score per Battle Experience 906.67 Damage caused 41,975.00 Warships destroyed 2.00 Aircraft destroyed 1.67 Main battery hit ratio 42% Torpedo hit ratio 11% Base capture 0.00 Base defense 28.00   Highest Score Experience 1,562 Damage caused 66,309 Warships destroyed 4 Aircraft destroyed 3

[Ra97oR]

I don't think he is doing something wrong, the Furutaka is just that bad.

 

I avg

Furutaka: 34k (41 games)

Kongo:     67k (64 games)

 

The Aoba followed it, I am getting 50k average on it.

 

It is just not good for the tier.