Woespite

[Kaelin]

I played the Warspite in CBT before and after the armour changes and found her to be a particularly underwhelming ship, to the point of being chronically underpowered. - being a premium I know  it's not supposed to be as good as a fully researched T6 BB, but when it's not even as potent as some T4 BB's 

I hoped she'd had some balancing done come OBT and bought her again but I'm really not feeling it.

I'm also assuming they haven't fully implemented premium ship mechanics since, well, if barely turning a profit having done ~40-50k damage is how a T6 is supposed to work then I doubt it's gonna be getting much use. and I doubt I'll be buying any other premium ships as a result.

AP shells that'll do up to 11,400 damage (citadel hit), but will more likely do less than 1000.

HE shells that'll do up to 5,300 but will periodically do absolutely no damage at all - to things like destroyers(!?).

am I the only one getting this?

[delaci76]

Yep sold mine. But that's mainly due to the Ahistorical interpretation of the guns firing range. Its complete crap what WG have done to what was arguably one of the longest firing and most reliable guns in naval History.

 

It fired at least as far as it's Japanese/American counterparts. Complete tosh and the only reason they did it was for balancing purposes which I think are poorly thought out.

 

And before someone says "it's an arcade game, there are other inconsistencies". Yes but in no way as shockingly blatant as with the Warpspite.

 

It's akin to giving a Tiger a 75mm gun rather than an 88mm gun.

[Kais_S012]

I got her... shes not bad but i wouldnt say shes good either

 

I get the feeling they hoped that a making the ship a double negative would make a positive. they took the worst attributes of the two current nations and put them both in one ship hoping they'd balance out

Japanese turret traverse speed and american range

 

the only bit they got right about her is the collosal pounding that ship takes to sink! I took 16 torpedoes in the warspite in a tier 6 and above PvE battle and I still finished the battle floating.

 

but it does follow Wargamings trend of leaving British factions very lack luster in comparision to the others

[Vanhal]

 it's not even as potent as some T4 BB's

 

That's exaggeration. I also was not content in Warspire in CBT, it as weak armor and abhorrent turret traverse time (and now it seems it was test before implementing almost the same crap in US BB and nerfing IJN), but it was stronger than T4, worse than Kongo though and definitvely worse than both Fuso and new Mexico.

Considering how BB looks now, man i'm so glad i didn't rebuy the Warspite.

 

but it does follow Wargamings trend of leaving British factions very lack luster in comparision to the others

 

Like having strong armor in a game where armor means crap.

[Kaelin]

it just really yanks my chain that they'd put /The/ Warspite in the game, one of the most iconic Battleships of the Royal Navy, charge 6500 gold for a T6, and let it be as shoddy a reproduction as it is.

[Scilya]

i realy like my warspite. i enjoy playing it and  i think its a good ship

 

(but yes it should be better)

[Lightbaron]

I also think Warspite is a good ship (obviously not as good as OP Fuso but still good).

I really like her and think she is well ballanced as a premium ship and you can deal tons of damage if you know how to play there.

As I already like her really much I don't have anything against a buff to make her even better than she already is.

[_Maou_]

I believe Warspite as a tier 6 ships is actually pretty good(with some disabilities as a prem ships,maybe to much) but it's pretty good.BUT if you look at her from historical aspect i think she is underpowered and should be given better stats and it would make a solid tier 7 BB because i don't find her historical -.-.But looking as a tier 6 ship she is pretty decent and if you know how to play her a dreadfull and very dangerous oponnent on the battlefield even in higher tier battles.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Kaelin, on 19 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

am I the only one getting this?

 

Yes, you are.

[ReynoldsXD2]

Warspite plays much better than the colorado, so there is that XD

[Kaelin]

what's the secret then, because I've been having nothing but lousy matches/results, and she's the only BB I can't seem to get a good result with - I do pretty well with the wyoming, Ark beta, Ishizuchi. and the Kawachi doesn't count.

minor digression, hopefully they'll use the RN BC's over the BB's for a bit of variety. once they're done fabricating the Russian tech tree anyway.

[ajappat]

AP shells that'll do up to 11,400 damage (citadel hit), but will more likely do less than 1000.

 

am I the only one getting this?

 

Must be.

I don't mind a rant or two, but please get your crap right. Lowest amount AP can do, is 10% of max damage, so that should be 1140 dmg with overpenetration.

[22cm]

Actually, what is this: "being a premium I know  it's not supposed to be as good as a fully researched", "with some disabilities as a prem ships"?!

This crap comes from WoT, where normal MM is +2 max, and where a lot of premium tanks have a special MM of +1 max.

While in WoWS, MM for BBs can be as high as +3.

Why should premiums I spend money on be weaker than normal researchable ships? They should not be stronger, but not weaker.

[Liare]

i just wish it had more than a superficial resemblance to the actual Warspite.

 

the real thing suffered from rudder problems as a result of the pounding she received during the battle of jutland, its something that continued to plague the ship throughout her rather illustrious career, instead it's one of the hardest and fastest turning battleships in the game.

 

the reasoning behind the short gunnery range is also wrong, it's apparently a function of its "4.5m range finder, and it's placement" except the 15" gun batteries had two 24 feet range finders (7.3 meters), this can even be seen on top of the 15" Fire Director on the top of the front tower (the bits that spin when you traverse your guns), you see it has the Type 284 Fire Control Radar mounted (a fancy piece of kit and a large part of the reason Royal Navy battleships where so effective during WW2), and that has a 21 foot antenna, as you can clearly see the range finder sticks out a bit further than that.

 

here's the Prince of Wales with the radars marked, PoW had a different fire director type than the Warspite, carrying different guns, but the setup of the director is quite similar, but it shows the antenna you should look for.

 

as for the gun's ability to Elevate, we have a late 41/early 42 fit of it, the gun elevation was increased in January 41 if memory serves, anyway it's before it received it's in game compliment of 20mm's.

 

i ended up buying it, because i am a warship-whale and it's a very pretty warship, but it's still just a shadow of what it should be, ironically making it less concealable and increasing gunnery range doesn't help her any, the armor layout means she's quite susceptible to plunging fire.

[Kaelin]

yeah, but they're putting a russian navy tree in the game, so let us not talk about historical accuracy.

note they also renamed the hull upgrades to letters rather than years.

[Liare]

yeah, but they're putting a russian navy tree in the game, so let us not talk about historical accuracy.

note they also renamed the hull upgrades to letters rather than years.

 

that doesn't change the hull AA fit is the late 41/early 42 one.

[Battledragon]

Apart from the fact the turret top 20mm positions are all missing (should be two on B and two on X turret)

 

Warspite is a good ship, it has better guns than Fuso or New Mexico, though less of them, but that just means you have to aim carefully, if it hits it has a much better chance to citadel through belt armour than either of the other tier 6 battleships.  The range issue against fuso is a problem at times, but no more than it is for New Mexico, and Warspite is a better brawler than New Mexico as it's citadels are harder to hit at close range and it has MUCH more effective secondaries.  All in all, I prefer Warspite to either Fuso or New Mexico (I have tried both in CBT and have Fuso again in OBT).  Fuso can't push like Warspite can, it simply hasn't got the armour to take the kind of beating Warspite can, and I've never enjoyed playing battleship from the back line.

[Liare]

Apart from the fact the turret top 20mm positions are all missing (should be two on B and two on X turret)

 

pretty sure we're looking at a engine limitation there, plenty of warships had turret-top-AA but none of the ingame ones do, its essentially a turret-on-a-turret, considering that AA seems to have more or less fixed engagement envelopes it's not hard to see why those guns aren't there.

[Battledragon]

the AA doesn't exactly model every shot as is ( heavy dual purpose AA can fire at aircraft and surface targets at once, dual purpose PRIMARY guns as seen on higher tier japanese destroyers, and Atlanta never elevate but still work)  I see no reason they couldn't just have the turret top AA modeled statically and just add the AA dps value across the other guns.

I mean it basically functions as an AoE damage field anyway.

[Remi_Drexel]

I love my warspite. You have to compensate for the slow turrets by turning the ship, but that works well when closing on enemy BBs. Just sail straight at them, and do a quick broadside after they fire, then angle yourself again. On a good game og 50-100k damage I usually get 250k-300k profit I think, I use premium damage control and repair and have never lost money in it. The guns on her are awesome, pretty big for the tier I believe. They get me on average 60k damage per match.

 

Yes there are faults with the ship, but they are easily compensated for. She feels like an overall very nice ship to me.

[ScarecrowCZ]

You sold spite? How the hell could you sell the only t6 ship which can reliably pen citadel from 14-15 km?

[Captain_Edwards]

You sold spite? How the hell could you sell the only t6 ship which can reliably pen citadel from 14-15 km?

 

^This. Warspite has almost guaranteed penetration against everything up to t8 when you aim well. She is one of the best BB in the game, if you or anyone else is having trouble with her, I would strongly suggest changing tactics and learning to brawl with her. For me she is the THEE ship, my "go to" vessel because with her I have more Citadel hits than any other ship in the game.

[ScarecrowCZ]

In case of amagi it is up to and including tier 8

 

[Rigimortis]

I think its criminal to offer ships to purchase in Beta. Ships stats will change and therefore the monetary value will change ( which it wont )

 

 

 

Shouldn't try to make money from people testing your game for you imo.

[zFireWyvern]

I think its criminal to offer ships to purchase in Beta. Ships stats will change and therefore the monetary value will change ( which it wont )

Shouldn't try to make money from people testing your game for you imo.

 

If they pursued that policy WG would never be able to sell anything, such is the nature of F2P multiplayer games, things change all the time and will keep changing for a long time to come. That's just how it is