Flawed Economy...

[42ndHighland]

Just had my first battle in OBT and apparently it cost me 140k silver for a victory in which I won and killed 2 ebnemy vessels 1 of which was a tier 2. can anybody help explain this? I have prem so a bit confused as to why I'm losing credits for wining...with a prem account?

[xRoni7x]

Funnily enough I havent managed to lose money yet. Even when I got torped from full health early.

[Del_Mare]

no battle in the first 5 tiers can cost you credits, you will get credits even when you drive your ship right into the center of the map and get killed without even doing any damage at all.

 

but please, feel free to open up your battle report of said game (you find it when you click at the "!" in the lower right corner of your client) and take a screenshot. show us =)

[SBS]

What tier were you playing with and was it PVE or PVP. PVE has drasticly reduced rewards than PVP. You should basicly not expect to earn anything in PVE. If it was PVP, high tier ships repair can cost a lot, and I mean A LOT! 

If you could provide a screenshot it would be helpfull.

 

Edit:

no battle in the first 5 tiers can cost you credits, you will get credits even when you drive your ship right into the center of the map and get killed without even doing any damage at all.

 

You actually can loose money, but only if you are afk from the start and don't move as you will earn 0 then.

 

[Yorkie_GBR]

Very strange, do you have a screenie of it?

 

If not the only possibility that comes to mind is if you had a fine.

 

What ship where you in, and did you do any friendly fire incidents? 

[Del_Mare]

What tier were you playing with and was it PVE or PVP. PVE has drasticly reduced rewards than PVP. You should basicly not expect to earn anything in PVE. If it was PVP, high tier ships repair can cost a lot, and I mean A LOT! 

If you could provide a screenshot it would be helpfull.

 

Edit:

 

You actually can loose money, but only if you are afk from the start and don't move as you will earn 0 then.

 

 

well, of course beeing afk and getting the afk punishment or shooting at teammates, also resulting in punishment, put aside

[SBS]

 

well, of course beeing afk and getting the afk punishment or shooting at teammates, also resulting in punishment, put aside

 

Just said it was possible. But yeh, you basicly have to ask for it to loose money in low tiers.

[Nethraniel]

Huh? Even if you mount all 3 premium consumables and the more expensive camo paint, it is impossible to lose 140k, except you sunk 3+ friendlies.

[42ndHighland]

No screeny's :-(

 

Can't really understand what happened, I did research modules after the battle BUT didn't purchase then on purpose. 

 

Battle report says made 52k silver profit.

 

I did spend 60k silver on the next ship though but I have already taken that into acocunt....still confused. Maybe I've had a total brainfart with my calcs 

 

 

I'll keep an eye on it and keep you posted.

 

thanks for all your input

[daki]

Just had my first battle in OBT and apparently it cost me 140k silver for a victory in which I won and killed 2 ebnemy vessels 1 of which was a tier 2. can anybody help explain this? I have prem so a bit confused as to why I'm losing credits for wining...with a prem account?

 

You probably mixed it up with how much you earned in battle.

[Reaper171]

Your first battle in OBT, in your T1 ship that costs like what...500 to repair? SURE THING!

[ttchip]

You'll have a hard time losing money during individual games until you reach very high tiers. What can happen and has happened to me in early tiers is me losing money during normal gameplay if you account for progression (modules, new ships). Even though I didn't use equipment or paid retraining I managed to lose a considerable sum during early tiers just because modules tend to be quite expensive.

 

This doesn't seem to happen in high tiers. Now, at tier 7 I'm at 75% of my next ship's research requirement in terms of exp while having already made enough money to buy it.

[Reaper171]

Im playing across all the lines right now and i have 12 million credits in my pocket burning a hole, the exception being IJN BBs as i played them in CBT

[Zenith]

Im playing across all the lines right now and i have 12 million credits in my pocket burning a hole, the exception being IJN BBs as i played them in CBT

 

See, it's people like this who will get the game economy wrecked even harder by the devs. They'll look at this person and his ilk, and go "oh well he has 12 million, so obviously it's too easy to make money", and then the nerfs will slam home again and again. Yeah, nice one mate, nice one! 

[SBS]

 

See, it's people like this who will get the game economy wrecked even harder by the devs. They'll look at this person and his ilk, and go "oh well he has 12 million, so obviously it's too easy to make money", and then the nerfs will slam home again and again. Yeah, nice one mate, nice one! 

 

Can't really blame him. He is just stating how he is doing. Me myself have 4 mill to spare and it is slowly growing. WG will probably look at how the average guys does with earning. If the majority have trouble earning, they will probably buff rewards no matter if a few individuals are doing well. WG may not allways do the best decisions, but they are trying their best.

[Reaper171]

Its MUCH easier than WoT to make money, even with things costing 1m upwards in upgrades and the t10s costing 20m

[Georn]

my guess = you've researched/bought something that needed something else reserached/bought first .. in this case the previous things are bought first i think

 

For example Umikaze Torps need the hull researched first. If this isn't researched it will do so automaticly when you research them. Not sure if it buys the hull too.. but this may have been the case.

Other explanation.. you had a high tier battle before .. got killed right at the start but the battle went on without you while you did your lowtier battle.. and then the results of the high tier loss kicked in after your low tier battle

 

everything pure speculation ofc

 

[Interdiction]

Economy is not very good ....My last game with the cleveland had me landing 133 hits one sunk and one plane ...I repaired for 35 k and ammo was 8 k yet I only recieved 51 k and we won 

 

Whats going on ? 

 

 

 

 

[OldGrandad]

Economy is not very good ....My last game with the cleveland had me landing 133 hits one sunk and one plane ...I repaired for 35 k and ammo was 8 k yet I only recieved 51 k and we won 

 

Whats going on ? 

 

How much damage did you do?

 

This is not gloating but to give you an example about how good the Cleveland is;

 

Ok, 3 more sunk but less hits. Can only conclude you did less damage?

 

Keep trying she really will help you earn good money.

[Snowman79]

Why can't we sell old modules for half their cost like in WoT? New ones are very expensive compared to the income and no return from the old ones...also WG more then doubled the cost of everything, but the rewards for the daily missions remain the same...35k credits for 10 torp hits...are you kidding me? Also premium ships earn next to nothing...80k+ dmg, 4 kills in Arkansas and I got 200k credits (with premium account)...I get more in a similar Myogi fight...Fix economy please!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GrumpyWorm]

If there are going to be any economy fix it is going to be scaling down

 

Dont expect to have same earning as you did couple of weeks ago - those were just for testing purposes.

[MrFingers]

I think the rewards (as in: credits you earn for your activity ingame) are good as they are. They're high enough to see the grind progress as you play, but low enough so you don't fly through the ranks. Thing that is flawed is that the selling of modules and obsolete upgrades is way too low (aka: non-existent). Upgrades you are "forced" to buy so you can advance through the tiers.

[Orree]

 

See, it's people like this who will get the game economy wrecked even harder by the devs. They'll look at this person and his ilk, and go "oh well he has 12 million, so obviously it's too easy to make money", and then the nerfs will slam home again and again. Yeah, nice one mate, nice one! 

 

To be fair (and perhaps you were joking), I doubt seriously WG get their "state of the economy" data from even the RU forums, let alone the EU and US forums... 

 

It comes from all that crazy awesome data that, for instance, leads them to make constant, minor (and unneeded)  tweaks to the "passing ability" of the upgraded tracks on a Panther (or some other tank) that no one asked for.

 

 

[Aerroon]

no battle in the first 5 tiers can cost you credits, you will get credits even when you drive your ship right into the center of the map and get killed without even doing any damage at all.

 

but please, feel free to open up your battle report of said game (you find it when you click at the "!" in the lower right corner of your client) and take a screenshot. show us =)

 

Well, I killed all the ships around me when I spawned and then I lost a bunch of money. Broken game!!!

[JapLance]

I don't think the problem is the credits earned in battle, but how expensive is everything in this game. New ships, modules, retraining captains, camouflage, you can't sell unused parts...

 

In WoT I never had credit problems. In WoWs I'm only in tier 6 (Cleveland and Aoba) and I had to wait and play a lot the lower tier ships to be able to buy them.