Bryam_Dalemans Players 1 post 89 battles Report post #1 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) plz make Germain warships in the following update (or make russian warships) Edited July 7, 2015 by Bryam_Dalemans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #2 Posted July 7, 2015 plz make Germain battleships in the following update As far as we know Germany will be the fourth nation so there won't be any German BB line anytime soon. At least this is what we currently know and WG will surely release some more info about it at Gamescom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genai Beta Tester 675 posts 1,928 battles Report post #3 Posted July 7, 2015 They should do it like in WoT with japs/chinese... put in 1 line that is done and then later add other when ready... 1 line brits, one line germans and all russian that are supposed to come (as they are first)... That would be quite good for PR and for lovers of certain nations... No need for everything at once and i hope they wont add all russian, then all german then all brits... that would be forever 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #4 Posted July 7, 2015 I heard some rumors that we get one German DD and one Russian CA lines within the next 12 months. *hype hype* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #5 Posted July 7, 2015 They should do it like in WoT with japs/chinese... put in 1 line that is done and then later add other when ready... 1 line brits, one line germans and all russian that are supposed to come (as they are first)... That would be quite good for PR and for lovers of certain nations... No need for everything at once and i hope they wont add all russian, then all german then all brits... that would be forever Yeah, that is exactly what they should do. Read in another thread from someone, that the current plan was to introduce USSR DD's and after that German cruiser line. Hope thats true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genai Beta Tester 675 posts 1,928 battles Report post #6 Posted July 7, 2015 Good... moar CAs!! Since they are likely more like IJN than USN... that would be cool Except you two gave the opposite answers! Uncool! Then again, seems like germans should also have torps... so all is cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #7 Posted July 7, 2015 They should do it like in WoT with japs/chinese... put in 1 line that is done and then later add other when ready... 1 line brits, one line germans and all russian that are supposed to come (as they are first)... That would be quite good for PR and for lovers of certain nations... No need for everything at once and i hope they wont add all russian, then all german then all brits... that would be forever From what the devs said they focus on having one line per class for every nation but, during the development phase, they worked on the two starting nations simultaneously. Hopefully they'll do that again but until they officially confirm something it's pure speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #8 Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, It really is KM CA and VMF DD lines. the most OP from both nations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] perrinluns Beta Tester 195 posts 14,964 battles Report post #9 Posted July 7, 2015 it will be very interesting to see if they put ships like the graf spee ( nick named a pocket battle ship) in the cruiser line or the BB line what are your thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #10 Posted July 7, 2015 I would just put them in as premiums, I would definitely not try to bother balancing them into the lines 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #11 Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, It really is KM CA and VMF DD lines. the most OP from both nations. Defining the Germans cruiser as OP is a bit too much since the bulk of it will be light cruisers and all post WWI ones weren't exactly great. it will be very interesting to see if they put ships like the graf spee ( nick named a pocket battle ship) in the cruiser line or the BB line what are your thoughts Technically should be a cruiser but her placement is complicated. She can't go too high otherwise DM&co would rip her in moments and she can't go too low because otherwise she would be too OP. I assume she could go at tier VII or VIII, depending on balance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #12 Posted July 7, 2015 Defining the Germans cruiser as OP is a bit too much since the bulk of it will be light cruisers and all post WWI ones weren't exactly great. Technically should be a cruiser but her placement is complicated. She can't go too high otherwise DM&co would rip her in moments and she can't go too low because otherwise she would be too OP. I assume she could go at tier VII or VIII, depending on balance. Dem high tier cruiser projects. Semi-battlecruiser megalomaniac nightmares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #13 Posted July 7, 2015 it will be very interesting to see if they put ships like the graf spee ( nick named a pocket battle ship) in the cruiser line or the BB line what are your thoughts Read somewhere a while ago that they want to put it in the cruiser line, high alpha, low RoF/accuracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #14 Posted July 7, 2015 Dem high tier cruiser projects. Semi-battlecruiser megalomaniac nightmares. Personally i don't know any CA project, excluding Admiral Hipper and the complicated to balance Deutschland, D-class and P-class. We'll see anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #15 Posted July 7, 2015 It's looking like Russians, followed by German, followed by British. If they implement one line at a time we'll have all three nations by Xmas. Otherwise we'll be probably looking at Russians in a few months, Germans around october/november and British in Feb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #16 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) It's looking like Russians, followed by German, followed by British. If they implement one line at a time we'll have all three nations by Xmas. Otherwise we'll be probably looking at Russians in a few months, Germans around october/november and British in Feb If they put in complete trees at once it'll be a lot longer than February until we see the UK ships Edit: Hi Ev1n Edited July 7, 2015 by Crooq_Lionfang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhroX Beta Tester 210 posts 1,190 battles Report post #17 Posted July 7, 2015 Dem high tier cruiser projects. Semi-battlecruiser megalomaniac nightmares. To be fair, it wasn't just the Germans who tried silly oversized cruisers: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #18 Posted July 7, 2015 From a commercial perspective it's in WG's best interest to have the USN, IJN, RN and Kriegsmarine as quickly as possible to interest the Western naval enthusiasts with VMF to interest the nationalistic Russian market. It's likely the British line will be BB's if the Kriegsmarine is CA and VMF DD. Makes sense as the British had the most famous (note famous is not the same as best) battleships in WW2. America's BB fleet was put out of action early and in all honesty, with the exception of the Yammato, the Japanese BBs are not well known while the British BB's made headlines. Admittedly not always for the right reasons and our battlecruisers where very famous. In allot of ways the USN and IJN BB's pretty much come down to the Iowa and Yammato in the thoughts of your average, non-historian, player. It makes sense as a logical second line for the British is the Carriers as we where just behind the USN and IJN when it came to carrier operations and they are routed out of the BB lines in tech trees. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #19 Posted July 7, 2015 Personally i don't know any CA project, excluding Admiral Hipper and the complicated to balance Deutschland, D-class and P-class. We'll see anyway. I think the P and D isn't particularly OP, but kind of fits the megalomaniac nightmare part because they will be a pain to fight, that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] perrinluns Beta Tester 195 posts 14,964 battles Report post #20 Posted July 7, 2015 they should have the derfflinger in there too but she will be one of the lower teirs I would have thought as she was ww1 if I remember correctly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #21 Posted July 7, 2015 To be fair, it wasn't just the Germans who tried silly oversized cruisers: There are also other examples(B-65, the projects prior to projekt 69 just to name a few) I think the P and D isn't particularly OP, but kind of fits the megalomaniac nightmare part because they will be a pain to fight, that's for sure. I said hard to balance because they are just evolution of the Deutschland-class. Their OPness isn't granted, not like a 37 knot Zara look-alike with improved armament and AA. they should have the derfflinger in there too but she will be one of the lower teirs I would have thought as she was ww1 if I remember correctly She should be part of the BC line which, in theory, is plausible to make. I don't think that line will be the first because Bismarck won't be featured in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #22 Posted July 7, 2015 I said hard to balance because they are just evolution of the Deutschland-class. Their OPness isn't granted, not like a 37 knot Zara look-alike with improved armament and AA. Yeah, Of course, You will be able to handle them with other cruisers. But just think about it, a cruiser with 28 cm guns, that can citadel hit battleships? 30 Nerf OP OP topics in the first week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #23 Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, Of course, You will be able to handle them with other cruisers. But just think about it, a cruiser with 28 cm guns, that can citadel hit battleships? 30 Nerf OP OP topics in the first week Yeah, Of course, You will be able to handle them with other cruisers. But just think about it, a cruiser with 28 cm guns, that can citadel hit battleships? 30 Nerf OP OP topics in the first week Personally i find those less scary than what i placed at tier IX and X in my Italian tree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #24 Posted July 7, 2015 If the Graff Spee is hard to place, then what about the Scharnhorst? Surely it cant go in the battleship line as it doesnt have the brute strength in gunnery with only having 11" guns. Cant wait to play it though, I had an airfix model of it as a kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #25 Posted July 7, 2015 If the Graff Spee is hard to place, then what about the Scharnhorst? Surely it cant go in the battleship line as it doesnt have the brute strength in gunnery with only having 11" guns. Cant wait to play it though, I had an airfix model of it as a kid. There is nothing specifically wrong with Sharnhorst, She can be a normal BB, she would just have faster rate of fire to compensate the lower caliber guns. The problem with the 11" cruiser designs is that they are armored as light cruisers and have nearly battleship caliber guns. They would be like a glass cannon. They could punch a hole in a battleship, but could die to light cruiser fire. It would be weird, because light cruisers which have really good DPM, but bad penetration can kill them, but heavy cruisers with worse DPM would lose against them. And of course there is that they can do nastier things to battleships than just harassing them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites