Feeling ripped off £35 premium & warspite

[londonsmee]

Having bought the the premium and feel ripped off. Whats the point of having a Battleship when your better off in a Destroyer. A friends great at using torpedos and seen him destroy 7 targets with torpedos when I'm just going round the outside trying to chase the battle, only getting only a few hits. Then your demolished with torpedoes. Before you say learn to play or alike. Why do I have to put up with random spreads of shots and torpedoes don't have failures. At this present point I don't see any reason to play Battleships. 

 

This is meant as feed back. 

[Zenith]

BBs are an acquired taste. You have to plan your every move, and make your shots count. They have their place, they're just not very forgiving to the inexperienced. 

[gorgutzer]

Learn to move in zig zag.

[anonym_hqO9wrVAEQYQ]

I also have the Warshite and have even bought it again in OBT. Its a bit of a Marmite  ship and is very battle specific. I have had some cracking games and also some absolute shite ones where I die in the first few minutes. When it works its a blast to play. But you didn't have to buy it.

 

[Captain_Edwards]

Your new and jumped in a Battleship that is way above your experience level, and that requires a specific play-style to do well with.  The worst thing you could do imo. Unless you play through the tiers and gain experience in how to handle a battleship against other classes you will always suffer and not have good games.

 

 

[Zenith]

On a different note, who feels that the Warspite's gun range is no longer an issue now that we have U.S BBs in the game? 

[OVanBruce]

The flow goes like this. When riding a DD it's easier to kill tomatoes on then than on a Battleship. But when you find a competent player, it's easier to kill him on a BB. That's basically why your friend is having fun while you are not, because battleships require experience, practice and a deeper understanding of the game meta to be truly succesful on then.

 

Once you actually know your stuff you'll find that the Warspite is quite a lovable ship.

[TheJezna]

Yes, it is easy to drop clueless BB players, often of the newcommer variety with a DD. This however only says something about the same new player's skills and nothing about the viability of the BB or DD classes. But by all means, try out playing a DD. Take it further than the newb tiers and you might realise that they aren't all that easy to play.

 

As to why you have to put up with torpedoes: Because they are part of the game. Playing a battleship, just as playing any class, takes a number of skills. For a BB they include maintaining situational awareness, planning your movements far ahead, being able to spot areas where you are likely to be ambushed and being adept at dodging torpedoes, which you will face both from destroyers and carriers. If those are skills you are not interested in developing you should play another class. As to reasons for playing a battleship: well, personally I avoid playing them as the playstyle don't appeal to me. But there are several reasons one might want to play them like the longest range guns of any class, the ability to take punishment that would destroy several ships of other classes, the ability to, atmleast at higher tiers and with skill, one-shot both destroyers and cruisers etc.

[Captain_Edwards]

With the new scout plane addition since 4.0, range hasn't really been an issue at all. If there is a target outside of range taking pot shots in my direction, up goes the scout and down comes some shells on the target. Its a real eye opener when your Warspite lashes out at 19k and hits hard.

[Admiral_noodle]

I'm not a fan of the Warspites brawler style. I've seen it used brilliantly but I'm a battle cruiser man... Smash cruisers for fun and run like a girl from proper battleships

 

[ironhammer500]

I also have the Warshite and have even bought it again in OBT. Its a bit of a Marmite  ship and is very battle specific. I have had some cracking games and also some absolute shite ones where I die in the first few minutes. When it works its a blast to play. But you didn't have to buy it.

 

 

The warspite is more a brawler type of ship where angling the hull works well it has considerably good armour for its tier. if you die so early then its you who is terrible.

[londonsmee]

All valid points  why should the 

Your new and jumped in a Battleship that is way above your experience level, and that requires a specific play-style to do well with.  The worst thing you could do imo. Unless you play through the tiers and gain experience in how to handle a battleship against other classes you will always suffer and not have good games.

 

 

 

Thanks but played the Wyoming and the New York and its the same, BB's are trash. Just don't see a reason to play or pay for them. I had hopes for this game but getting the point don't feel like wasting time. Even the scope doesn't have the max range, I realise this is beta but come on. Torp own everything. 

[Captain_Edwards]

All valid points  why should the 

 

Thanks but played the Wyoming and the New York and its the same, BB's are trash. Just don't see a reason to play or pay for them. I had hopes for this game but getting the point don't feel like wasting time. Even the scope doesn't have the max range, I realise this is beta but come on. Torp own everything. 

 

Then you have not learned how to play yet. Sorry but this is gist of it. I own Warspite and to be frank have owned with her up against higher tier BBs.

 

You need to ask yourself a critical question. How did you manage to get torpedoed so often in the first place? Were you too close to land masses? Were you going off solo? Were you not talking to your team?

 

You see this isnt WoT. Using WoT tactics in this game will get you killed super duper fast. This is a team game, so as a BB skipper you need your team to spot DD that are a threat and take them out. And you need some CA around to help take down enemy aircraft before they can launch torpedoes and allow you to evade the ones they do drop.

 

Battleships when used properly are one of the most potent and dangerous classes in the game. You just need more practice and time with them.

[PhroX]

On a different note, who feels that the Warspite's gun range is no longer an issue now that we have U.S BBs in the game? 

 

Since when was it ever an issue?

[londonsmee]

You may be lord Nelson but I'm saying how I feel.  Which is how a lot of paying people will feel.  

[m0box]

I rather do agree with the comments above, it is rather hard to jump into the game at that level. You have made a good purchase and in time you will come to appreciate HMS Warspite's abilities. She is a great brawler especially is you close the range as her good armor comes into play. Plunging shots from distance are her worst issue.

 

However, may I suggest you join a gaming community that has active players in the game. They will be more than willing to help you get upto speed in the game so that you will be able to enjoy HMS Warspite as much as I do.

 

My community, the 116th Panzer Division is forming a fleet right now. Our website is http://116thpanzer.com and our teamspeak server is ts.116thpanzer.com without password. Do come along and say hi, and we'll happily help you. No need to join us, we are happy to have guest players too.

 

m0box

Chief Personnel Officer

116th Panzer Division gaming community.

[londonsmee]

At what point has a Battleship every hid from a Destroyer or Cruiser.  Only in this game. When did air attack have perfect alignment and seem perfect. Just Watched a Wyoming get 11 torpes shot at it. Bye bye BB. 

[Captain_Edwards]

You may be lord Nelson but I'm saying how I feel.  Which is how a lot of paying people will feel.  

 

I know. But your missing my point. Its only because your inexperienced that you feel that way. Seriously, play against good players and watch some vids. I was in your shoes initially myself in CBT. Then it "clicked", and BB starting working for me. And then I got Warspite and

OMFG!

 

I realised just how good she was when you used her right.

 

 

[londonsmee]

I rather do agree with the comments above, it is rather hard to jump into the game at that level. You have made a good purchase and in time you will come to appreciate HMS Warspite's abilities. She is a great brawler especially is you close the range as her good armor comes into play. Plunging shots from distance are her worst issue.

 

So what is it close or long with BB's people need to decide what it should be. 

[OVanBruce]

At what point has a Battleship every hid from a Destroyer or Cruiser.  Only in this game. When did air attack have perfect alignment and seem perfect. Just Watched a Wyoming get 11 torpes shot at it. Bye bye BB. 

 

1st This game doesn't try to portray realism

2nd A BB has never hid or run from a cruiser or a destroyer because it had an screen of those protecting then from the enemies

3rd If you are in a bad position, it's only natural to try getting outside of it.

[OVanBruce]

 

So what is it close or long with BB's people need to decide what it should be. 

 

Right now, Warspite is the only "brawler" BB we have in game. take into account that there are and will be different caracteeristics for each class in each nation and consequentially, meta for each one of then will be different from one another.

[Admiral_noodle]

When has a BB ever run from destroyers? 1916 - battle of Jutland - entire British fleet turns away from Scheers fleet to avoid destroyers... Of course Warspite had left by then after getting mauled due to her rudder jamming...

[Captain_Edwards]

 

So what is it close or long with BB's people need to decide what it should be. 

 

Its not class specific, its ship specific. Some are good in medium range, some are good at long range, and some are good up close and personal. Its down to you to find your playstyle and the ship that fits. But you cannot do that until you play around and learn the styles in each class.

[Zenith]

 

Since when was it ever an issue?

 

When it was first introduced, and nearly everyone was packing a BB capable of sending rounds out 20 km or more, that's when. Getting within firing range back then was very, very dicey. 

[TheJezna]

You may be lord Nelson but I'm saying how I feel.  Which is how a lot of paying people will feel.  

 

So, exactly what is it that you want? To be able to go around shooting your big guns ignoring all other ships but battleships and feel invincible in your floating hulk? How fun and dynamic do you think a game where two teams of battleships lined up to lob shells at eachother until one side was gone would be? Because that's what you'd get if you made BBs into some kind of invincible monsters. Or is it something else you want? Please do tell, don't just cry about what you don't want.

 

Oh, besides, talking about reality, destroyers and their predecessors torpedo boats where massive threats to battleships, as where carrier-launched airplanes. So much so that a Battleship would never go anywhere without an escort of cruisers and destroyers to protect them. In the end as we all know, battleships where still made obsolete, while carriers and destroyers are still core of modern navies.