Will we ever see submarines in this game?

[Gunerstile]

I am passionate player of World of Tanks and some days ago i tried this game and i absolutely loved it, so im here to stay. Im aware that the game is still in beta and im wondering is WG planing to introduce subs in to the game.

I think that it would be very nice addition to the complexity of the game because then if you implant subs in to the game, it would be needed to add sonars and deep charges to all ships; of course DDs would have best sonars and would be most effective against subs because of their agility, then the cruisers and BBs and CVs as the ones with the worst sonars and possibly even without deep charges. 
The way that subs could work is the one I remember from playing Battle station Midway (I hope i did not violate any rule by naming the other game) if someone remembers that.

You could have 4-6 levels of submerging, Surface and the deeper you go the better sonar is needed in order to detect you, and you must ascent to the one level bellow surface in order to fire torpedoes which will expose you to all ships, and the deepest level will leave you immune to the deep charges but you will lose HP due to the high water pressure which will eventually force you to emerge and expose yourself or die. And one more thing is that you will need to surface from time to time to refill air supply...dangerous thing to do.

 

I would really like to hear your thoughts on this subjects and im looking forward to your replies. 

[Adwaenyth]

Submarines at that times were slow surfaced and even slower submerged. They were utterly unarmoured so that one hit from anything will likely penetrate the pressure hull and cause severe flooding - likely sinking the sub. Its torps will not have more range than the torps of a DD, so at best a sub can lie and wait near the cap, hope to drop a few torps if lucky before getting shelled / depth charged by cruisers and DDs.

 

So no, subs will not come into play.

[Captain_Edwards]

No

[Battledragon]

No, and stop asking, there's dozens of threads on this already.

[Trainspite]

No subs in random battles like we have now, but who knows for future gamemodes....

[zFireWyvern]

In a word, no

[rustyfeeder]

During Ww2 submarines maim influence was convoy artacking. They sunk many transport ships tankers civil ships etc. This game focuses on naval warfsre of different type where submarines were not rhat influencial. The tactic was to strike best during the night and dissapear. This is simply not worling in WoW. But there maybe A special game mode in which one side has to protect the convoy and the other to destroy it. This might work.

[Markemoff]

Hope not. Didn't play much of a part in fleet actions.

[Admiral_noodle]

Non playable sub hazard zones might be fun on a map though...

[BrushWolf2]

To the op, that is a completely different game. In the period the game covers they were never able to coordinate the subs with the surface ships and with no communications between them and the surface ships all subs were considered to be enemies. The US had the best prewar sub doctrine to use the subs as scouts ahead of the fleet which was why our subs were quite fast on the surface, a bit faster than the cruising speed of the fleet. That changed with Pearl Harbor when Nimitz turned them loose to attack Japanese shipping.

 

[OnOnFR]

And what about Sub-cruiser like french Surcouf ? With 2 203 mm large guns , a sort of submarine "Tank destroyer"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Surcouf

It could be a premium French ship , and it had a spotter seaplane !

or the I-400 submersible aircraft carrier , as a premium Japanese aircaft carrier with submersible capacities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine

[IamTroublemaker]

BBs have enough "enemies" as it is, no subs, it has been ask numerous times and always got the same answer, even from the developers - NO! So stop asking it, it would just cause unbalance, so it wouldn't be a nice addition.

[OnOnFR]

BBs have enough "enemies" as it is, no subs, it has been ask numerous times and always got the same answer, even from the developers - NO! So stop asking it, it would just cause unbalance, so it wouldn't be a nice addition.

 

Surcouf isn't a mere sub , it's a ******* cruiser with sub capacities and a little seaplane . And without ballasts , it could be a good cruiser

[Tugnut]

never say never

 

[Historynerd]

And what about Sub-cruiser like french Surcouf ? With 2 203 mm large guns , a sort of submarine "Tank destroyer"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Surcouf

It could be a premium French ship , and it had a spotter seaplane !

or the I-400 submersible aircraft carrier , as a premium Japanese aircaft carrier with submersible capacities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine

 

Surcouf was only the last of a line of unsuccessful and awkward submarines armed with heavy guns.

 

The I-400 could carry a grand total of three M6A floatplanes, not much to mount an attack with.

 

No, submarines won't be in game.

[OnOnFR]

 

Surcouf was only the last of a line of unsuccessful and awkward submarines armed with heavy guns.

 

The I-400 could carry a grand total of three M6A floatplanes, not much to mount an attack with.

 

No, submarines won't be in game.

 

I-400 could be a low tier premium carrier

 

[Dai2]

 

I-400 could be a low tier premium carrier

 

 

I would really want to see you play with a 3 plane carrier, even super low tier....

 

Ill translate it as he is obviously french....

J'aimerais beacoup te voir jouer avec on porte avions qui en a 3, meme en très bas tier...

[IamTroublemaker]

 

Surcouf isn't a mere sub , it's a ******* cruiser with sub capacities and a little seaplane . And without ballasts , it could be a good cruiser

 

OP asked about subs in general, not those hybrids or whatever it was, even like that I don't see a way to balance it considering it had only 2 guns but high caliber

[Historynerd]

 

I-400 could be a low tier premium carrier

 

 

You think it's feasible? Really?

 

 

I would really want to see you play with a 3 plane carrier, even super low tier....

 

Ill translate it as he is obviously french....

J'aimerais beacoup te voir jouer avec on porte avions qui en a 3, meme en très bas tier...

 

I concur.

[SBS]

 

You think it's feasible? Really?

 

 

I concur.

 

Also, the ship technically has no way to recover the aircraft again if I am not mistaken. Were they not meant to do 1 way suicide attacks?

Even then, the damage potential is too low, the sub itself isn't the fastest, it will have really bad armor/HP as well as AA/artillery. Even tier 1 could smash it effectively.

It would basicly be useless unless it could sumberge, but as we won't have subs in the game....

[OnOnFR]

 

I would really want to see you play with a 3 plane carrier, even super low tier....

 

Ill translate it as he is obviously french....

J'aimerais beacoup te voir jouer avec on porte avions qui en a 3, meme en très bas tier...

 

For example , a spotting low-tier seaplane tender : Commandant-Teste , Langley , Ark Royal could launch and spot for enemy ships on low tier battles . And even I-400 has offensive seaplanes

[Dai2]

 

For example , a spotting low-tier seaplane tender : Commandant-Teste , Langley , Ark Royal could launch and spot for enemy ships on low tier battles . And even I-400 has offensive seaplanes

 

Seaplane tenders? why not.

[Zenith]

The battle would be over before said subs even got within firing range. Submerged speeds are very, very slow, as Silent Hunter fans can attest. 

[Historynerd]

 

Seaplane tenders? why not.

 

I am not convinced that seaplane tenders can be considered akin to full-fledged carriers... 

[Dai2]

 

I am not convinced that seaplane tenders can be considered akin to full-fledged carriers...

 

No, but they also had guns..................

Actually a good seaplane tender can have 40 planes, at least for IJN. (I havent heard about any USN AV.)