[WJDE] VeryRisky Alpha Tester 152 posts 962 battles Report post #1 Posted July 5, 2015 I have never converted XP to Free XP as I am not into the Pay-2-Rush thing. So I'm annoyed to see that XP piling up on Elite and Premium ships. In particular I think it is a bit unreasonable where you have paid for premium ships to have part of their XP earnings only unavailable without additional payment. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #2 Posted July 5, 2015 The main job of this accelerated training was to even out the exp between the crew members, so they progress equally fast. We have only 1 captain in WoWs, so such feature is not planned. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornet331 Weekend Tester 166 posts 120 battles Report post #3 Posted July 5, 2015 The main job of this accelerated training was to even out the exp between the crew members, so they progress equally fast. We have only 1 captain in WoWs, so such feature is not planned. Tbh the "crew system" is pathetic and its a shame they resorted to this version instead of the multi crew system. Also no the accelerate crew training in wot was not only for evening out crew members, but as the name is saying accelerate the crew training, thats what premium tanks where for (beside gaining credits or free xp). Without this a big incentive to actually use premiums is not given. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philipp_ab_exterminatore Alpha Tester 1,191 posts 8,097 battles Report post #4 Posted July 5, 2015 I qas wondering about this to. Bit sad It won't come but at least I will have plenty to convert when the Royal Navy finally sails out of dock to engage in glorious battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #5 Posted July 5, 2015 Tbh the "crew system" is pathetic and its a shame they resorted to this version instead of the multi crew system. Also no the accelerate crew training in wot was not only for evening out crew members, but as the name is saying accelerate the crew training, thats what premium tanks where for (beside gaining credits or free xp). Without this a big incentive to actually use premiums is not given. This is your personal opinion, but mine and those of the majority is that 1 captain is better then "crew". WG likes it more too. Also the accelerated crew was giving the exp from the battle to the crew member that was behind others (like killed driver that wouldn't get exp in that battle), so the overal preogression was not really accelerated so much. Here you can have CV captain in DD premium without the need to retrain it, so you can farm exp in any premium ship. Accelerated training would be 2x and it's so far away from 2x faster in WoT. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluebeerd Beta Tester 2 posts 1,393 battles Report post #6 Posted July 5, 2015 I am not currently playing my gold ships, as I don't see the point of building up XP that I will never pay to convert. It saddens me deeply if an alternative to converting using gold is not being planned, as it means I won't be buying more gold ships. This will be a big loss to Wargaming, as I bought an awful lot of premium tanks in WOT, so I was expecting to be buying gold ships. I've also been selling ships that are Elited and just buying the next ship in line. If this continues, then my interest in the game is probably going to be short lived. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DDLS] Naskoni Players 674 posts 1,234 battles Report post #7 Posted July 6, 2015 The main job of this accelerated training was to even out the exp between the crew members, so they progress equally fast. We have only 1 captain in WoWs, so such feature is not planned. Utter BS. Go play some WoWP and marvel at how you can accelerate a single pilot in a one seat fighter, effectively doubling his leveling speed... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ICI] _Saracen_ Beta Tester 45 posts 8,113 battles Report post #8 Posted July 6, 2015 Do premium & elite ships train captains faster at the moment? I always just saw premium ships as a way to gain credits faster. Also elite ships I just thought was just to signify that you've bought all the modules and serves no real purpose otherwise. Just a fancy title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #9 Posted July 6, 2015 Utter BS. Go play some WoWP and marvel at how you can accelerate a single pilot in a one seat fighter, effectively doubling his leveling speed... Never really played WoWp, I speak about WoT. Do premium & elite ships train captains faster at the moment? No but you can insert any captain there without the need to retrain it, so you can still gather exp on the captain you need (any class) while farming credits. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ICI] _Saracen_ Beta Tester 45 posts 8,113 battles Report post #10 Posted July 6, 2015 Never really played WoWp, I speak about WoT. No but you can insert any captain there without the need to retrain it, so you can still gather exp on the captain you need (any class) while farming credits. Ooo didn't know that, so the smart move would be to have no captains on your premium ships and just switch out the captains from your main ships into the premium when you're farming credits with them. Will do that from now on, a lot more efficient! Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #11 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Here you can have CV captain in DD premium without the need to retrain it, so you can farm exp in any premium ship. Accelerated training would be 2x and it's so far away from 2x faster in WoT. Yeah, really, and it will be pretty useless as a captain, because in WoWs captain skills are class specific, maybe with some CA-BB skills overlapping. Accelerated training means just that, accelerated training to convert the free exp into training experience, don t try to rename things. Also in WoT u can have different class crew in premium tanks, and their perks wil be active. WoWs is more cash-grabbing than WoT in what concerns training. In WoT the secondary skills stay active while retraing the primary, and you have also that accelerated training so you don t get all that free exp left on premium ships. They can do the accelerated training at lower rate than the one in WoT, for example 0.6 for DDs, 0.4 for CA and 0.2 for BBs and CVs compared to WoT, because a DD has arround 100 crew compared to 1000+ on BBs and CVs. It is very annoying to see all that free exp piling up on elite ships. Edited July 6, 2015 by 22cm 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WKY05] DirionScrab Beta Tester 48 posts 19,573 battles Report post #12 Posted July 6, 2015 It doesnt have to be accerated crew training, what about increased credits (say 2 credits per xp not retained) or free xp ( say 10% free xp instead of 5%) even at a tiny amount it would still be worth it for those that are not going to convert xp. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #13 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) It is very annoying to see all that free exp piling up on elite ships. Very true. I've bought my last premium ship until I can feed the experience into my "commanders." Edited July 6, 2015 by Hedgehog1963 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko01 Beta Tester 329 posts Report post #14 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Well fully intended on buying the Bismarck when it comes out, I've already bought a few ships but if it's true that they don't intend on implementing accelerated training can't see me buying anymore. Even if it's a case of them bringing in a class specific ship to train commanders with accelerated training, I'd rather do that than be made to buy gold to convert exp into free exp because all it is going to do is build up every time you play a premium ship. Edited July 6, 2015 by jacko01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dai2 Beta Tester 347 posts 686 battles Report post #15 Posted July 6, 2015 Even though you might think that this is a direct nerf to premium ships, the fact that you can put any captain of any class ofships into a premium ship without penalty balances it out. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko01 Beta Tester 329 posts Report post #16 Posted July 6, 2015 Even though you might think that this is a direct nerf to premium ships, the fact that you can put any captain of any class ofships into a premium ship without penalty balances it out. Problem solved. How does it when in the end no matter how you look at it your going to end up with exp you can't use unless you buy more gold to convert it, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del_Mare Weekend Tester 461 posts 2,563 battles Report post #17 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) How does it when in the end no matter how you look at it your going to end up with exp you can't use unless you buy more gold to convert it, same as in wot, and they won't toss that aside. no point of discussing this. but well, if the masses get calmed when they get a cosmetic "accellerate captains training" button for 5% extra xp.... Edited July 6, 2015 by Del_Mare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[QTAZ] xenomic Alpha Tester 197 posts 5,708 battles Report post #18 Posted July 6, 2015 Even though you might think that this is a direct nerf to premium ships, the fact that you can put any captain of any class ofships into a premium ship without penalty balances it out. Problem solved. I don't think that solves problem. After one week, I've got about stocked 50k exp on my premiums. For me, it should be better, to take 5% bonus to faster captain retraining, then stocking exp. For what? Conversion to FreeExp? I'm not interested in spending dublons for that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #19 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Even though you might think that this is a direct nerf to premium ships, the fact that you can put any captain of any class ofships into a premium ship without penalty balances it out. Problem solved. No , it doesn't. The vast majority of the Exp ends up just building up. Aslo I'd have no problem with class specific commanders. In WoT the premium vehicles for me have been all about the crew training bonuses. My Chinese MT crew is in it's 6th skill. Edited July 6, 2015 by Hedgehog1963 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #20 Posted July 6, 2015 I like the system here. I have 3 Premium IJN ships atm and I am grinding the IJN cruiser line, I am using 1 Captain on ALL FOUR ships, not being tied to a class like WOT premiums is great! Doing this means on the first win of the day my Captain is getting x6 experience, now if that ain't accelerated I don't know what is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko01 Beta Tester 329 posts Report post #21 Posted July 6, 2015 I like the system here. I have 3 Premium IJN ships atm and I am grinding the IJN cruiser line, I am using 1 Captain on ALL FOUR ships, not being tied to a class like WOT premiums is great! Doing this means on the first win of the day my Captain is getting x6 experience, now if that ain't accelerated I don't know what is. One little question what are you doing with the exp you build up. are you converting it with gold. The whole point of the accelerated training is all of the exp you earn goes onto your commander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #22 Posted July 6, 2015 Even though you might think that this is a direct nerf to premium ships, the fact that you can put any captain of any class ofships into a premium ship without penalty balances it out. Problem solved. Nope. Put a DD captain in a CV or a BB see how good it is.When you train, you develop specific skills so it is not usefull. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #23 Posted July 6, 2015 I have converted some on Saturday when I bought Warspite, I had a little gold left over, but not much, It doesn't bother me. I play WT and have never converted free XP there, I have millions of it, so what? I just don't pay it any mind. I would much rather keep the ability to put any class of Captain in any class of premium then have an accelerated crew training option, it makes my premiums far more useful and better value for money. 22cm, on 06 July 2015 - 07:35 AM, said: Nope. Put a DD captain in a CV or a BB see how good it is.When you train, you develop specific skills so it is not usefull. Depends on the skills don't it? Many skills are good for all occasions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twibs Alpha Tester 125 posts 380 battles Report post #24 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Tbh the "crew system" is pathetic and its a shame they resorted to this version instead of the multi crew system. I disagree. I much prefer this one. In WoT you had to first train them to 100% and only afterwards gain skills/perks. It took ages to get the second skill open, somewhere around tier 9 or so. Mind you progression in WoWs feels much faster. The % are dull, skills/perks are more fun. I also kinda like the way you can customize each captain AND it leaves WG the chance to add more skill to each level. Edited July 6, 2015 by twibs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko01 Beta Tester 329 posts Report post #25 Posted July 6, 2015 I disagree. I much prefer this one. In WoT you had to first train them to 100% and only afterwards gain skills/perks. It took ages to get the second skill open, somewhere around tier 9 or so. Mind you progression in WoWs feels much faster. The % are dull, skills/perks are more fun. I also kinda like the way you can customize each captain AND it leaves WG the chance to add more skill to each level. you are doing the same basically as you have to gain enough exp to gather enough points to get the skill you want, actually being able to put all the exp on your commander will enable you to get points faster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites