Oh Boy... from the WoWs v12.4 the so-called "Supercontainers" contents will be heavily nerfed...

[SurfaceFish]

Waiting for WG to drop the nerf hammer few patches before Christmas to reduce the amount of coal, steel and Santa container certificates giving out. 

[Onsterfelijke]

On 4/19/2023 at 11:25 AM, Seraphice said:

hello! in general the change is aimed to remain roughly the same - you will earn supercontainers more frequently now, but their average value will be lower.

 

that said, the chance to obtain ships from supercontainers will be higher when you take into account the increased rate at which supercontainers will drop. Of course that does come at the price that other rewards in the container might be a bit less "super"

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

I am fine with some reduction of % chances but the includement of Grey Economic you miss the point that reduce the super container no in a less super container but a just bigger daily container (weekly Container for the future?)

Just drop the grey ones and i think almost will agree with you in the less super container .....

[AndyHill]

It's not exactly free, though, WG want us to grind T10s, blow snow and in general play the game. It's useful to them. That's not the point, though. Also like I said, a "sorry but we're nerfing supers hard, because they're crashing the economy" would be kind of okish with me.

 

The point is that WeeGee's modus operandi has been to attempt to drown us in total bullship every step of the way every single time all the time. This time is no different, but the important thing here is that if we just let this slide again and again the same thing is going to happen next time and the next.

 

Most importantly, WeeGee can back down from incredibly stupid ship. Their Tanks team just pulled back on a bad change they were just about to make, because the playerbase hated it. Maybe one day some form of competence will crawl its way into the ships team as well if we make enough noise every time they try to pull off their usual bullship. 

[SurfaceFish]

15 minutes ago, AndyHill said:

Their Tanks team just pulled back on a bad change they were just about to make

World of tanks had many CC spoken out against that change. I don't think there are any CC for wows left to stand up to WG for the playerbase, most with integrity left over the last two years. What CC remains are just doing marketing for WG to get some free stuff. 

[Yedwy]

Imho the SC drop chances should be something like:

Premium Ship - 1% with mercy rule every idk 200 crates or so

2000 steel - 2%
20 000 coal - 2%
25 red bonuses - 5% per each type (total 20%)

50 blue bonuses - 10% per each type (total 40%)

50 mil silver - 5% (lets be honest here silver is again a resource valuable enough for superships)

Rest can be signals and other stuff

[AndyHill]

The state of the CC program is also a direct result of the way WeeGee manages the community (and it's not the community managers' fault, don't get me wrong).

[flip_66]

Just now, AndyHill said:

(and it's not the community managers' fault, don't get me wrong)

If they insult their CCs like they insult us then it definitely IS the community managers' fault.

[AndyHill]

From what I can tell the people we get to see and talk to are used by WeeGee Boats as a firewall between their own, cataclysmically stupid ideas and the enraged community. The community people don't come up with all the crab, they just need to handle the fallout - or resign, but in real life that's never an easy choice to make. It's not an enviable position and although handling our feedback definitely is a part of the job and we shouldn't start pulling punches because of it, it's always good to remember that the people we get to speak with are (probably) not the cause of all evil.

[Hades_warrior]

It looks to me that weegee don't want players to play anniversary events anymore.

Who would still farm SC for each TX ship after this nerf.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

On 4/19/2023 at 11:25 AM, Seraphice said:

hello! in general the change is aimed to remain roughly the same - you will earn supercontainers more frequently now, but their average value will be lower.

 

that said, the chance to obtain ships from supercontainers will be higher when you take into account the increased rate at which supercontainers will drop. Of course that does come at the price that other rewards in the container might be a bit less "super"

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

The main problem here is that September WG WoWs anniversary is the biggest contributor for the amount of so-called "Supercontainers" that player gets!

 

Lets take a look at my stats  for 2022:

 

113 "Supercontainers" in total

64 "Supercontainers" from Tier X ships in September WG WoWs anniversary

 

So... when WG heavily nerfs the contents of the "Supercontainer" by 50% and still keeps just 1x "Supercontainers" for the Tier X ships in September WG WoWs anniversary it acutally meany HUGE drop in rewards for the player and NOT the advertised "remain roughly the same"... 

 

@Seraphice

@YabbaDuckoe

 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Cammo1962]

On 4/19/2023 at 11:25 AM, Seraphice said:

hello! in general the change is aimed to remain roughly the same - you will earn supercontainers more frequently now, but their average value will be lower.

 

that said, the chance to obtain ships from supercontainers will be higher when you take into account the increased rate at which supercontainers will drop. Of course that does come at the price that other rewards in the container might be a bit less "super"

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

Might be less "super" (using your own words) @Seraphice ?? To say it blunt they are crap but again WG dont care about their player base and they have not done that for the last 3 to 4 years.

[Cammo1962]

On 4/20/2023 at 5:20 PM, AndyHill said:

From what I can tell the people we get to see and talk to are used by WeeGee Boats as a firewall between their own, cataclysmically stupid ideas and the enraged community. The community people don't come up with all the crab, they just need to handle the fallout - or resign, but in real life that's never an easy choice to make. It's not an enviable position and although handling our feedback definitely is a part of the job and we shouldn't start pulling punches because of it, it's always good to remember that the people we get to speak with are (probably) not the cause of all evil.

Well @AndyHill they are the front figurs and they put themself in that position by taking the job at that firm and they are the only ones we can go at because everyone else hides behind an iron curtain. And when you ask the front figurs they either dont answer back or are wage in their answers it is just like asking a politician  what 2 plus 2 is so yes they do get the blunt rage from the player base so it is rightfully deserved that they feel our rage.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Unfortunately the very loud silence by WG can mean just one thing - and we all were afraid of that - the so-called "Supecontainers" will be issued after WoWs v12.4 just as they are now for:

• Yearly WoWs anniversary in September will still issue just 1 so-called "Supecontainer" for each Tier X & Tier XI

• Monthly WoWs so-called "Supecontainer"will still be just 1 from Daily Drop

And those were the primary means of acquiring the so-called "Supecontainers" for most players...

 

For example Lets take a look at my stats  for 2022:

 

113 "Supercontainers" in total

64 "Supercontainers" from Tier X ships in September WG WoWs anniversary

12 Monthly "Supercontainer" from Daily Drop

37 "Supercontainers" from "More Coal" and other means

 

Therefore 113 - 64 - 12 = 37 so-called "Supecontainers" from "More Coal" and other means.

 

That 37 is just a pitiful number equaling to just around 25% of all acquired!

 

 

For the sake of argument lets predict my stats for 2023 (assuming that I will stay at same number for Tier X & XI which is not what will happen but I will use the same number):

 

150 "Supercontainers" in total

64 "Supercontainers" from Tier X ships in September WG WoWs anniversary

12 Monthly "Supercontainer" from Daily Drop

74 "Supercontainers" from "More Coal" and other means

 

 

The WG would increase that to 74 for me and that is still below 50% of all that I would get... so HUGE drop in rewards for the player and NOT the advertised "remain roughly the same"...

 

HOW ON EARTH WOULD INCREASE OF JUST 37 SO-CALLED "SUPERCONTAINERS" NUMBERS IN A YEAR VALIDATE THE HEAVY NERF OF CONTENTS BY MORE THAN 50% ???

 

 

@Seraphice

@YabbaDuckoe

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[SurfaceFish]

14 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

"remain roughly the same"

No, the statement IS true as WG ONLY mentioned half the rewards and double the chance of SC drooping. Roughly is an unmeasurable term too! 

 

Since WG have not announced about the anniversary and monthly drop changes. Your conclusion is not based on facts, only speculations.

 

Do I think you are correct, YES! But there is a reason why WG holding back information on anniversary and monthly drop, so their staff can say "I don't have this information yet, please be patient and I will let you know as soon as I get any update". 

 

So we are all getting less free stuff, why do you feel entitled to those forever? Either give more money to WG, play for free or stop playing. This is the direction WG has been moving towards for couple of years now, less rewards and more resource drains, so can't say I'm surprised. 

 

 

[Yedwy]

5 minutes ago, SurfaceFish said:

So we all getting less free stuff,

Exactly what the "community" wanted at least thats what some here on the forum demanded as well as some CCs (now mosly ex CCs ofc)

[VedranSeaWolf359]

1 hour ago, Yedwy said:

Exactly what the "community" wanted at least thats what some here on the forum demanded as well as some CCs (now mosly ex CCs ofc)

 

I think that is sad if some part "community" (who have loot of ships ofc) and "CC" ask for reward nerf because it show its selfish vs new and common players who don't have it!

[Aragathor]

After the patch drops Try Your Luck boxes will be the fool's choice, with SCs being garbage you get more value out of Coal and Flag boxes.

[Chocan]

The content of the SC was never worth the loss of value from a Try you Luck box compared to the coal container

[rage1750]

Havent played in months.

Pop back every now and then to observe what this weeks problem is.

 

Yup, the problem is still WeeGee being WeeGee.

 

"How can we irritate the playerbase this week? " - WeeGee Management

 

 

Spoiler

 

Guess it has been longer than "a few months".  

WeeGee......  What a failboat company...  

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, rage1750 said:

Havent played in months.

Pop back every now and then to observe what this weeks problem is.

 

Yup, the problem is still WeeGee being WeeGee.

 

"How can we irritate the playerbase this week? " - WeeGee Management

 

You know, it's almost if they had a finite number of player slots available, and they gently and not so gently trying to persuade us old timers to take a hike.

[Yedwy]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

You know, it's almost if they had a finite number of player slots available, and they gently and not so gently trying to persuade us old timers to take a hike.

Well they kinda do, we take up server time so better to have some noobs that throw the money at the screen if possible and you can sell the good old "solution to created problem" routine...

[flip_66]

Here is my attempt to sum up buffs and nerfs (without taking into account that you will get one less random container per SC):

 

Coal: No changes

Steel: No changes

Research Points: New into rotation

1,000 Doubloons: 20 percent nerf

5,000 Doubloons: 100 percent nerf

Free XP: No changes

Elite Commander XP: New into rotation

7 days of premium: 8 percent buff

30 days of premium: 100 percent nerf

Common (white) economic boosters: New into rotation

Special (green) economic boosters: 38.5 percent nerf (wow!)

Rare (blue) economic boosters: 1 percent nerf

Signals: No changes

Tier V-VII ships: 31.2 percent buff

Tier VIII-IX ships: 50 percent buff

Tier X or rare ships: 20 percent buff

 

The tier X or rare ship buff seems great but is still ridiculously low so it doesn't really change much. The buff on tier 8 and 9 ships is good but considering they add more and more ships you don't want (subs) relativizes this buff. My suggestion: Cancel the addition of Research points and give us a 2 percent chance of dropping 1,500 steel instead. This way Supercontainers would be a good way to farm steel and not just be a complete disappointment.

[Kysmet]

2 hours ago, GordonsGekko said:

Here is my attempt to sum up buffs and nerfs (without taking into account that you will get one less random container per SC):

 

Coal: No changes

Steel: No changes

Research Points: New into rotation

1,000 Doubloons: 20 percent nerf

5,000 Doubloons: 100 percent nerf

Free XP: No changes

Elite Commander XP: New into rotation

7 days of premium: 8 percent buff

30 days of premium: 100 percent nerf

Common (white) economic boosters: New into rotation

Special (green) economic boosters: 38.5 percent nerf (wow!)

Rare (blue) economic boosters: 1 percent nerf

Signals: No changes

Tier V-VII ships: 31.2 percent buff

Tier VIII-IX ships: 50 percent buff

Tier X or rare ships: 20 percent buff

 

The tier X or rare ship buff seems great but is still ridiculously low so it doesn't really change much. The buff on tier 8 and 9 ships is good but considering they add more and more ships you don't want (subs) relativizes this buff. My suggestion: Cancel the addition of Research points and give us a 2 percent chance of dropping 1,500 steel instead. This way Supercontainers would be a good way to farm steel and not just be a complete disappointment.

Coal was halved from 15000 to 7500. And the compensation for getting  a ship you already had used to be doubloons, but is now that missing 7500 coal. So, yeah.
But I haven't seen any ships in years, so meh.

[AndyHill]

2 hours ago, GordonsGekko said:

Here is my attempt to sum up buffs and nerfs (without taking into account that you will get one less random container per SC):

As far as I can tell your numbers are correct. However, that is assuming double the amount of supercontainers, which is far from reality. I'd say most will be getting less than 20% extra containers unless every source is doubled.

[flip_66]

53 minutes ago, AndyHill said:

However, that is assuming double the amount of supercontainers, which is far from reality.

It is the reality for containers from 'Try your luck' and other containers. It is less if you consider that we do not get two containers from monthly drops and the anniversary event, that's correct. Yes, in total it is a heavy nerf that especially hits those of us who play the game for quite some time now. If they gave us something in return though (for example my suggested steel buff) it wouldn't be quite as bad as it is right now.