Alchemist79 Players 108 posts 2,661 battles Report post #1 Posted March 12 I have been absent for a long time. I basically left after the submarines came into play. I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Has anything changed for the better ? Or is it only getting worse ? Can i play without those in game ? Or has a competitor stood up to make a similar game without all the nonsense maybe ? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #2 Posted March 12 Nope 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #3 Posted March 12 Vor 38 Minuten, Alchemist79 sagte: Or is it only getting worse ? this. Since one of the main issues with subs are the homing torps, WG decided to add British subs with Zitat The new submarines are only equipped with acoustic homing torpedoes that have a short reload time for a full salvo, good range and speed, and launch in large salvos 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DMP] Schelfie Players 552 posts 10,763 battles Report post #4 Posted March 12 36 minutes ago, Alchemist79 said: I have been absent for a long time. I basically left after the submarines came into play. Smart move. Wish I was so smart. 36 minutes ago, Alchemist79 said: I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Then stay away, I'm afraid. 36 minutes ago, Alchemist79 said: Has anything changed for the better ? Or is it only getting worse ? Can i play without those in game ? Only got worse with the British subs. And if we could avoid it, none will play those monstrosities. 36 minutes ago, Alchemist79 said: Or has a competitor stood up to make a similar game without all the nonsense maybe ? Unfortunately there's none. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Alchemist79 said: i play without those in game ? Sure. There are some lovly Tier I and II cruisers you could play without them or you play in the Training Room. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #6 Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Sure. There are some lovly Tier I and II cruisers you could play without them or you play in the Training Room. Or operations. The situation is far better there even with the CV's when there is one. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #7 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: Or operations. The situation is far better there even with the CV's when there is one. But since operations are random, one does not know in advance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #8 Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. There are now CV, BB with planes, CA with planes, soon even DD with planes. The only counter to planes is - you might have guessed it - to play submarines. After all, WG have to attract new players to their latest antidote vs air plague while driving away old players who see through that scheme. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #9 Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: But since operations are random, one does not know in advance. They still aren't anywhere near as problematic in operations as they are in randoms. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1FA] pWnZoMg Beta Tester 32 posts 8,511 battles Report post #10 Posted March 12 No. Be prepared to get games with 3 subs and 2 CVs two tiers above your. Weekends are Hell. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #11 Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: I have been absent for a long time. I basically left after the submarines came into play. I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Has anything changed for the better ? Or is it only getting worse ? Can i play without those in game ? Or has a competitor stood up to make a similar game without all the nonsense maybe ? Nope same garb*age as when they came into the game, actually even worse 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #12 Posted March 12 7 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: Has anything changed for the better ? Plenty of chances mate. Sadly for the opposite of the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Lootboxer said: Plenty of chances mate. Sadly for the opposite of the better. Like... two betters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #14 Posted March 12 13 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: I basically left after the submarines came into play. Smart move 13 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Bad news, they infest about 70-80% 13 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: Has anything changed for the better ? No, WG still hasn't been able to hire competent people to handle gameplay. It looks nice though, if that is what you want from a game, but gameplay is still handled by the apes in Moskow zoo. So, in short.. either accept the (good looking)bull they offer and start collecting ships (because that is what it is all about according to WG) or run and never look back. Never ever expect good gameplay, they are incapable of it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,162 battles Report post #15 Posted March 12 13 hours ago, Alchemist79 said: I have been absent for a long time. I basically left after the submarines came into play. I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Has anything changed for the better ? Or is it only getting worse ? Can i play without those in game ? Or has a competitor stood up to make a similar game without all the nonsense maybe ? Play operations. If you win they are rewarding ok amount of credits and exp (unlike coop) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #16 Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, MarChil said: gameplay is still handled by the apes in Moskow zoo Piter zoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UK-RN] Captain_82 Players 1,345 posts 35,820 battles Report post #17 Posted March 12 11 hours ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: They still aren't anywhere near as problematic in operations as they are in randoms. Depends on the team again. Had a blast of fun games playing with @lup3s and @SurfaceFish and @Veni__Vidi__Vici . Because I didn`t want to wait for @lup3s before these matches (was playing the Pirate mission and had only some remaining Premium time left...), I clicked into Ops. Hermes and my team couldn`t be bothered to play in front of Ruan/intercept the DD-wave. I took massive damage by AP-Bombers, got killed and then guess what. We lost because the whole team decided to stay either next or behind Ruan. I pinged the DD grid right before I died but the team didn`t bother. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted March 12 Just now, Captain_82 said: Depends on the team again. Had a blast of fun games playing with @lup3s and @SurfaceFish and @Veni__Vidi__Vici . Because I didn`t want to wait for @lup3s before these matches, I clicked into Ops. Hermes and my team was too stupid to play in front of Ruan/intercept the DD-wave. I took massive damage by AP-Bombers, got killed and then guess what. We lost because the whole team decided to stay either next or behind Ruan. I pinged the DD grid right before I died but the team didn`t bother. Yeah.. well I meant the CV's primarily... it's still less bad than facing a CV in randoms. Plus you got no subs to deal with. As for the team, you get what you get and that's why I don't want to blow any costly signals or something over ops because failures happen, sometimes often. In Hermes, they don't protect the Ruan well enough, they don't intercept the DD's at the end, plus Ruan itself sometimes pushes too close to the enemy ships making it difficult to position yourself in a screening formation. Ruan is also bloody fast at that point. At the end, you have to be forward of the Ruan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #19 Posted March 13 8 hours ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: At the end, you have to be forward of the Ruan. Depends, you dont need to there is another way to handle the issue of the last wave, if you have a strong BB or two (like massa ie) go twards the adler group you can maul the dds while they are still far out, then they launch fish twoards it and get to the end position empty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, Yedwy said: Depends, you dont need to there is another way to handle the issue of the last wave, if you have a strong BB or two (like massa ie) go twards the adler group you can maul the dds while they are still far out, then they launch fish twoards it and get to the end position empty Massa makes Hermes easier, true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #21 Posted March 13 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #22 Posted March 15 On 3/12/2023 at 8:34 AM, Alchemist79 said: I have been absent for a long time. I basically left after the submarines came into play. I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Has anything changed for the better ? Or is it only getting worse ? Can i play without those in game ? Or has a competitor stood up to make a similar game without all the nonsense maybe ? Hey, am in the same boat as you :) But it indeed does seem the same. Was checking the blog with some changes to anti air through alternate mode of airstrike planes, so I came and checked the forums. Seems like it's still the same game with the same aweful developers, same aweful fun destroying games including lots of CVs and Subs and still the same people defending WG and CVs. We can easily stay away from this game for another decenia and nothing will be changed :) Sad indeed. See ya around, @Alchemist79! :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #23 Posted March 16 On 3/11/2023 at 11:34 PM, Alchemist79 said: I kinda feel like playing some warships again, but i dont feel like playing a stupid game with carriers and subs again. Well, there is T1 (lol) . T2 has many fun ships. T3 may get uptiered into T4 where the reworked CVs are so abundant (if not uptiered, T3 has many fun ships, as well). The only way Wedgie could ruin the low tiers is if they introduced 'the very early CVs, aka, float plane CVs & the other very early small complement #s of planes on ships' (the early experimentals). 13 hours ago, FukushuNL said: same aweful fun destroying games including lots of CVs and Subs and still the same people defending WG and CVs. I would like to see RTS CVs returned (&, ofc, the game returned to its pre-CV rework status). However, this won't happen . Reworked CVs, Hybrid Ships & Subs (as designed & implemented) are, imo, complete disasters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 40,980 battles Report post #24 Posted March 16 Nope, just had a lovely game in the brisbane where the cv(malta) did 3 runs and basically killed me.. 15k 1stly 16k 2ndly and another 7k 3rdly. great fun that was.. oh just dodge..lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #25 Posted March 17 Anything changed? Yes. It’s gotten worse! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
