HoB_Delcon Players 5 posts 7,711 battles Report post #1 Posted March 10 Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer ) where matches are just not fun anymore , Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . 13 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #2 Posted March 10 This is the bargaining stage of grief. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #3 Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . The gamce cannot consider anything. It is a program. WG can do that, but they have considered it and decided against it. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #4 Posted March 10 17 minutes ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS WG Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . NOPE! Will never happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #5 Posted March 10 I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue. I seriously don't understand the hate towards CV. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F-E-O] Bayolo_1 Players 13 posts Report post #6 Posted March 10 Your eyes will never see that, or else WG would have to eat his cv and sub with fries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #7 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . Long and short of it, this has been brought up ad nauseum, and the answer has always been the same, no. 48 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue. And this would be why WG keeps shooting this idea down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[17PRO] LordBodoM Players 30 posts 12,439 battles Report post #8 Posted March 10 How about a game mode without DD's? 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #9 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer ) where matches are just not fun anymore , Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . This (very good, although I wouldn't exclude CVs, believe it or not) idea comes up quite frequently, especially now that submarines are almost everywhere. Sadly, it'll probably never happen (unless WG's income craters horribly, and perhaps not even then): As mentioned earlier, it would probably kill the queues for whichever class was being escaped from. It would be a de facto admission that submarines were a mistake, and WG almost never admit to making mistakes. I'm afraid that if - like me - you find PvP with submarines intolerable, the only escape is to retreat to PvE and the remaining few PvP modes that don't have submarines, or stop playing. I'm a mixture of both, personally... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #10 Posted March 10 The Stages Progress. The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten. The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?" Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash. And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #11 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Sunleader said: The Stages Progress. The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten. The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?" Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash. And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance. We? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #12 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, LordBodoM said: How about a game mode without DD's? How about we remove paper? Scissors are just fine. Sincerely, rock. But yeah, considering the amount of facerolling BBabies, I feel this is not entirely implausible that someone would go ahead and ask this.... Also, the amount of DDs willing to suffer supershit CVs, radar everywhere and so on and now submersible scum that spots them to death is getting lower and lower, so it's not soo far fetched - just from a different angle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #13 Posted March 10 3 hours ago, Sunleader said: The Stages Progress. The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten. The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?" Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash. And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance. Next will be the premium sub hunting ships that everyone will have to buy 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #14 Posted March 10 I think a large part of the players would be happy about such an option and would also use it and that's exactly why it won't come. The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes. It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating. The development is a shame. And since Wargaming doesn't listen to feedback, players show their displeasure in other ways.We'll see where that leads, but I don't think the quality of the rounds will improve again, quite the opposite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PTS] J0tt Players 200 posts Report post #15 Posted March 10 Vor 5 Stunden, black_falcon120 sagte: I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of only submarines and CVs in the normal queue. FTFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruthus Beta Tester 66 posts 12,119 battles Report post #16 Posted March 10 I want a server with all the ship types but only players worse than me and their selection of ships is made so that my ship does not have to face an OP opposition. Seriously. I get focus by a CV i demand an end to their ship type I get shotgun by a sub I want them thrown out too I get blapped from across the map by a BB that I didn't think could reach me. Blam, I want a no BB server I get a face full of torps from a DD that I overlooked. Yup, let shave them outta here. I get burned down by HE spam cruisers sitting behind islands. NO longer to be tolerated Get a grip people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #17 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: I think a large part of the players would be happy about such an option and would also use it and that's exactly why it won't come. The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes. It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating. The development is a shame. And since Wargaming doesn't listen to feedback, players show their displeasure in other ways.We'll see where that leads, but I don't think the quality of the rounds will improve again, quite the opposite. Alright, I am going to play the WG shill here. WoWs on Steam is regularly holding cash or ingame reward events to attract players. The last one of this was in November to December 2022 and it only makes sense that after grabbing their 5 bux of Steam money most of the players left, since this is the reason why they signed up in the first place. Some were also bots but that was already discussed in another topic. In fact, you can see the playerbase rising right after the event was announced by approximately the amount that left in the 3 months after. Blaming this on subs or CVs seems more like feeding your own narrative of "asymetric class bad". Uncool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #18 Posted March 11 11 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer ) where matches are just not fun anymore , Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . There is a gamemode that leaves both subs and CV's out of the picture: Any other game! Stop playing games you don't like. And above all... STOP supporting it financially. Don't buy WG's crap baits (like premiums and all the other crap) and eventually if enough people puts away mommys creditcard, they might start listening to the community. Emphasis on might, but probably not. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #19 Posted March 11 12 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . It's already there, any T2 & T3 battle. 11 hours ago, ColonelPete said: WG can do that, but they have considered it and decided against it. Technically, Wrong, Pete. WG allows play without CVs or SSs in T1 through T3. 11 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: NOPE! Will never happen Happens, already, in T2 & T3 (I ignore the Sea Scum Seal Clubbers who exclusively play T1) 11 hours ago, black_falcon120 said: I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue. It's already unbalanced. I say, pile the imbalance on (more). Make it excessive. 10 hours ago, Sunleader said: Stage Five Explode? 6 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes. It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating. It's getting new players to . Yes, 'frustrating' to see the Iceberg (two classes, reworked CVs & SSs) & WG on a collision course. 26 minutes ago, ClappingLollies said: STOP supporting it financially. I'd, actually, for a 'dedicated clan flag slot' ...... but (butt) ... after all these years the Bozos still haven't offered that for . WG doesn't like ? ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #20 Posted March 11 17 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer ) where matches are just not fun anymore , Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . Not happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #21 Posted March 11 5 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: Technically, Wrong, Pete. WG allows play without CVs or SSs in T1 through T3. That is no game mode... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #22 Posted March 11 19 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said: Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's are not allowed . there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer ) where matches are just not fun anymore , Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . Ok, fair enough. But then can we have the option to play a game mode with no bb's, or cruisers, or even dd's? When I play dd's I don't want anything with radar on it because this ruins my fun contesting caps and playing the stealth game. When I'm in a cruiser, I don't want bb's playing because they can citadel me too easily. Etc etc. Choice is king and fair is fair. If not, why? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #23 Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Shaka_D said: Ok, fair enough. But then can we have the option to play a game mode with no bb's, or cruisers, or even dd's? When I play dd's I don't want anything with radar on it because this ruins my fun contesting caps and playing the stealth game. When I'm in a cruiser, I don't want bb's playing because they can citadel me too easily. Etc etc. Choice is king and fair is fair. If not, why? Single class brawls would fit the bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #24 Posted March 11 My opinion Was all "fun and engaging" until the CV rework which was a major catastrophe Then the captain rework "happened" Now it is the submarines, another very poorly implemented class Not at all so "fun and engaging" nowadays, grinds lead to more grinds and that is about it.. (And they nerfed the Zaö LM that I grinded) So yes I would very much enjoy a gammode without subs and CV:s 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TES6L] Hawker_gb Players 283 posts 14,329 battles Report post #25 Posted March 11 I gave a chance after long break and game is even more in bad shape then before. So sad that once great game become this horrible mess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites