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Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer )  where matches are just not fun anymore , 

Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . 

 

 

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This is the bargaining stage of grief.

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8 minutes ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed .

The gamce cannot consider anything. It is a program.

WG can do that, but they have considered it and decided against it.

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I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue.

 

I seriously don't understand the hate towards CV.

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1 hour ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

Long and short of it, this has been brought up ad nauseum, and the answer has always been the same, no.

48 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue.

And this would be why WG keeps shooting this idea down.

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1 hour ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer )  where matches are just not fun anymore , 

Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode .

This (very good, although I wouldn't exclude CVs, believe it or not) idea comes up quite frequently, especially now that submarines are almost everywhere.

 

Sadly, it'll probably never happen (unless WG's income craters horribly, and perhaps not even then):

  • As mentioned earlier, it would probably kill the queues for whichever class was being escaped from.
  • It would be a de facto admission that submarines were a mistake, and WG almost never admit to making mistakes.

I'm afraid that if - like me - you find PvP with submarines intolerable, the only escape is to retreat to PvE and the remaining few PvP modes that don't have submarines, or stop playing. I'm a mixture of both, personally...

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The Stages Progress.

 

The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten.

The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore

The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well

The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. 

 

And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?"

 

 

Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash.

 

And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance.

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1 hour ago, Sunleader said:

The Stages Progress.

 

The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten.

The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore

The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well

The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. 

 

And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?"

 

 

Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash.

 

And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance.

 

We?

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1 hour ago, LordBodoM said:

How about a game mode without DD's? :Smile_trollface:

How about we remove paper? Scissors are just fine. Sincerely, rock.

 

But yeah, considering the amount of facerolling BBabies, I feel this is not entirely implausible that someone would go ahead and ask this....

Also, the amount of DDs willing to suffer supershit CVs, radar everywhere and so on and now submersible scum that spots them to death is getting lower and lower, so it's not soo far fetched - just from a different angle.

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3 hours ago, Sunleader said:

The Stages Progress.

 

The First Stage which was Hope aka "Dont Implement Subs" has long been Forgotten.

The Second Stage which was Denial aka "Subs are not Ready. They should be Removed" is not even mentioned anymore

The Third Stage which was Anger aka "Submarines kill the Game and must be Removed" still has some Followers but is mostly gone as well

The Fourth Stage which was Defiance aka "Submarines should get a Seperate Gamemode and not be in Randoms" is Slowly Phasing out now. 

 

And thus we are now at Stage Five which is Desperation aka "Could we maybe pretty pls get a Seperate Gamemode without Subs ?"

 

 

Soon we will hit Stage Six which is Begging aka "pls add new Ships with better ASW and Buff Asw" which WG will be all too Happy to Oblige to rake in more Cash.

 

And Finally maybe at the end of the Year we will hit Stage Seven which is Reluctant Acceptane aka "Subs aint Good but they aint such a Big Issue that it really matters" which Signals to WG that they can now Nerf the ASW on the New Ships again to bring them in line with General Balance.

Next will be the premium sub hunting ships that everyone will have to buy

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I think a large part of the players would be happy about such an option and would also use it and that's exactly why it won't come.

The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes.  It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating.

 

The development is a shame. And since Wargaming doesn't listen to feedback, players show their displeasure in other ways.
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We'll see where that leads, but I don't think the quality of the rounds will improve again, quite the opposite.

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Vor 5 Stunden, black_falcon120 sagte:

I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of only submarines and CVs in the normal queue.

FTFY

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I want a server with all the ship types but only players worse than me and their selection of ships is made so that my ship does not have to face an OP opposition.

 

Seriously.

 

I get focus by a CV i demand an end to their ship type

I get shotgun by a sub I want them thrown out too

I get blapped from across the map by a BB that I didn't think could reach me. Blam, I want a no BB server

I get a face full of torps from a DD that I overlooked. Yup, let shave them outta here.

I get burned down by HE spam cruisers sitting behind islands. NO longer to be tolerated

 

Get a grip people

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2 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said:

I think a large part of the players would be happy about such an option and would also use it and that's exactly why it won't come.

The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes.  It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating.

 

The development is a shame. And since Wargaming doesn't listen to feedback, players show their displeasure in other ways.
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We'll see where that leads, but I don't think the quality of the rounds will improve again, quite the opposite.

Alright, I am going to play the WG shill here.

 

WoWs on Steam is regularly holding cash or ingame reward events to attract players. The last one of this was in November to December 2022 and it only makes sense that after grabbing their 5 bux of Steam money most of the players left, since this is the reason why they signed up in the first place. Some were also bots but that was already discussed in another topic. In fact, you can see the playerbase rising right after the event was announced by approximately the amount that left in the 3 months after.

 

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Blaming this on subs or CVs seems more like feeding your own narrative of "asymetric class bad".

 

Uncool.

 

 

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11 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer )  where matches are just not fun anymore , 

Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode .

 

 

There is a gamemode that leaves both subs and CV's out of the picture:

Any other game!


Stop playing games you don't like. And above all... STOP supporting it financially. Don't buy WG's crap baits (like premiums and all the other crap) and eventually if enough people puts away mommys creditcard, they might start listening to the community. 

Emphasis on might, but probably not.

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12 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed .

It's already there, any T2 & T3 battle.

11 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

WG can do that, but they have considered it and decided against it.

Technically, Wrong, Pete. WG allows play without CVs or SSs in T1 through T3. 

11 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

 

NOPE! Will never happen

Happens, already,  in T2 & T3 (I ignore the Sea Scum Seal Clubbers who exclusively play T1)

11 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean if you created this mode, it would risk unbalancing the matchmaker and lead to excessive numbers of submarines and CVs in the normal queue.

 

It's already unbalanced. I say, pile the imbalance on (more). Make it excessive.

10 hours ago, Sunleader said:

Stage Five

Explode? 

6 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said:

The bad thing is that wargaming doesn't even see a problem with these two classes.  It's all about recruiting new players. It's just frustrating.

 

It's getting new players to :cap_money:.  Yes, 'frustrating' to see the Iceberg (two classes, reworked CVs & SSs) & WG on a collision course.

26 minutes ago, ClappingLollies said:

STOP supporting it financially.

I'd, actually, :cap_money: for a 'dedicated clan flag slot' :Smile_great: ...... but (butt) ... after all these years the Bozos :Smile_child: still haven't offered that for :cap_money: . WG doesn't like  :cap_money:?   ...  :Smile_amazed:

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17 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer )  where matches are just not fun anymore , 

Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . 

 

 

Not happening

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5 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Technically, Wrong, Pete. WG allows play without CVs or SSs in T1 through T3. 

That is no game mode...

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19 hours ago, HoB_Delcon said:

Will WOWS Consider having a game mode where the subs or cv's  are not allowed . 

 

there is just too many games now for me in my experience (casual gamer )  where matches are just not fun anymore , 

Id like to see the metrics of how many people would opt in to this mode . 

Ok, fair enough. But then can we have the option to play a game mode with no bb's, or cruisers, or even dd's?

 

When I play dd's I don't want anything with radar on it because this ruins my fun contesting caps and playing the stealth game. When I'm in a cruiser, I don't want bb's playing because they can citadel me too easily. Etc etc. Choice is king and fair is fair.

 

If not, why?

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2 hours ago, Shaka_D said:

Ok, fair enough. But then can we have the option to play a game mode with no bb's, or cruisers, or even dd's?

 

When I play dd's I don't want anything with radar on it because this ruins my fun contesting caps and playing the stealth game. When I'm in a cruiser, I don't want bb's playing because they can citadel me too easily. Etc etc. Choice is king and fair is fair.

 

If not, why?

 

Single class brawls would fit the bill.

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My opinion

Was all "fun and engaging" until the CV rework which was a major catastrophe

Then the captain rework "happened" 

Now it is the submarines, another very poorly implemented class

Not at all so "fun and engaging" nowadays, grinds lead to more grinds and that is about it..

 

(And they nerfed the Zaö LM that I grinded)

 

So yes I would very much enjoy a gammode without subs and CV:s

 

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I gave a chance after long break and game is even more in bad shape then before.

 

So sad that once great game become this horrible mess.

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