JUST DODGE?

[Andrewbassg]

Yo......we had here a nice video of Chieftain...saying somethin' along the lines, that subs ....and they are fragile and........ a fragile stealthy class........ which just "shoot" torps......is not workable..... and also somethin' else........wait a second...... i will remember it in a moment....... not like I'm a youngster anymore......pain in the joints and stuff.....

 

Ah yes!!!..

 

 

"NO, No, No, NOPE, subs DON'T belong to the game!!"

Yo..... what happened to that noice video??

 

[TSD_87]

I haven't seen anything from Chieftain for about 2/3 years.

 

Maybe that was his point, and now he got fired or left...!?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Yo......we had here a nice video of Chieftain...saying somethin' along the lines, that subs ....and they are fragile and........ a fragile stealthy class........ which just "shoot" torps......is not workable..... and also somethin' else........wait a second...... i will remember it in a moment....... not like I'm a youngster anymore......pain in the joints and stuff.....

 

Ah yes!!!..

 

 

"NO, No, No, NOPE, subs DON'T belong to the game!!"

Yo..... what happened to that noice video??

 

 

 

[Andrewbassg]

8 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

 

Yep. Dis is da one

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, tsounts said:

I got a warning for posting it in various parts of the forum within an hour...

 

Well, here's some newer topics for warning I mean discussion.

 

 

 

[Andrewbassg]

12 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

Well, here's some newer topics for warning I mean discussion.

 

 

 

Wazz u mean, the players don't like pressing G??

[Humorpalanta]

6 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

Wazz u mean, the players don't like pressing G??

I have issues finding the G...

[Andrewbassg]

On 3/6/2023 at 1:52 PM, Ubertron_X said:

I cant wait for da new slogan "just sail away". 'Just dodge is sooo 2020....

[Aragathor]

On 3/8/2023 at 2:22 PM, TSD_87 said:

I haven't seen anything from Chieftain for about 2/3 years.

  

Maybe that was his point, and now he got fired or left...!?

Technically Nicholas "The Chieftain" Moran is a WoT technical advisor. He isn't involved with the WoWS team much.

Plus he has his own channel on YT where he talks tank tech mostly.

 

At this point, WG $hitting out cr@p like Alliance just illustrates how the company has no idea how to design the game.

My advice, stop spending, reduce play time.

I'm having fun in BF1 now.

[ClappingLollies]

17 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

At this point, WG $hitting out cr@p like Alliance just illustrates how the company has no idea how to design the game.

They are flat out making fun of their playerbase on twitter now. 

If you needed any more evidence that WG is giving 0 shits about its players, then here you go. 

Also don't think they understand how overloaded the DCP is in this game atm. 

But hey. Just dodge right? 

 

25 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

My advice, stop spending, reduce play time.

I'm having fun in BF1 now.

This^^ But like 2-3 years ago. 

[Porpoise]

21 hours ago, Aragathor said:

My advice, stop spending, reduce play time.

 

The sad thing is there were just 2 naval warfare games that got me engaged. The original Navy Field and WoWS. 

Unfortunately naval warfare does not attract masses, because it is slow paced and tactical combat so WG has no competition on the market. They put a lot of effort into the ships models, graphics, sounds etc. and so few into making the game actually better. Imagine how great this game could be if they have focused on the simpliest and most basic mechanics of the combat - gunnery, armor protection, spotting system. I think the best balance in WOWS was when it was 2 nations only. But some clever heads found out that more gimmick=more fun and completely ignored the original game as a benchmark for the future. 

[HMS_Edinburgh_C16]

i like how none of the wg staff like @MrConway @Seraphice @Crysantos and who the [edited]is else on the so called "wg staff" come here to tell us how we are going to enjoy this

bunch of ****

 

[Aragathor]

12 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said:

i like how none of the wg staff like @MrConway @Seraphice @Crysantos and who the [edited]is else on the so called "wg staff" come here to tell us how we are going to enjoy this

bunch of ****

 

If I were them I wouldn't be bothering answering, instead I would be on LinkedIn updating my profile. They know the game's going down the drain and they will soon need a new employer.

Remember, this is still a Russian made game, and Russians never admit to failure even if it costs them their livelihood.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said:

i like how none of the wg staff like @MrConway @Seraphice @Crysantos and who the [edited]is else on the so called "wg staff" come here to tell us how we are going to enjoy this

bunch of ****

 

Presumably, WG are not *entirely* stupid; they'll be aware that - of the forum population - something like only 15% of us (+/-) think submarines should be in the game in their present form; given that, the forum is probably not a channel that's it's worth spending much time on if you're trying to market the damn things.

 

Conversely, I suspect that actively marketing submarines on the forum is more likely to have a net negative impact on income as it'll remind a chunk of the players how angry they are about having half-baked submarines forced on us (in the game's primary modes), which is probably a less than ideal mindset to have people in if you want to extract money from them.

[arttuperkunas]

7 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said:

i like how none of the wg staff like @MrConway @Seraphice @Crysantos and who the [edited]is else on the so called "wg staff" come here to tell us how we are going to enjoy this

bunch of ****

 

Nah mate I’m sure everything is going according to the plan.

 

Now where have I heard that  one before?

[Kiagy]

On 3/5/2023 at 12:48 PM, Thalandor_gaming said:

edit: And please note, how I'm not actually defending submarines, their role in this game or their power balance. This post is about Flamu's clip and OPs no word thread about it, nothing else. 

[ImTryingButYouDontHelp]

On 3/5/2023 at 1:48 PM, Thalandor_gaming said:

The informational value of this clip is close to zero.

1) A heal Kyiv is arguably the worst T8 anti sub DD. Bad rudder shift and concealment put the Kyiv at a disadvantage.

2) The map Ocean doesn't allow the Kyiv to go dark, which puts him at an even greater disadvantage.

3) We dont know which submarine he faced, it could be a T10 for all we know.

4) The engagement was within a controlled environment. This particular 1on1 situation will almost never happen in a real match.

5) Crosstorping with one sub has always been possible. It doesnt just suddenly spring into existence because one emotional unstable streamer makes one video about it.

6) Even in this unrealistic situation, where there are no other objectives, the Kyiv can still win. Your HP don't matter in a fight against a sub if you can get a good attack vector on the sub.

 

My personal conclusion:

Stop eating up Flamus BS videos and spread his childish behavior.

 

At the very least take some time and write some arguments about the situation and what you think should be done about it. You know, like a self thinking person and not a brainless disciple.

 

edit: And please note, how I'm not actually defending submarines, their role in this game or their power balance. This post is about Flamu's clip and OPs no word thread about it, nothing else.

 

Dude, you have a mental problem for sure. It doesn't matter who claims; if it's a right claim, SYMU.

 

 

[ImTryingButYouDontHelp]

12 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said:

i like how none of the wg staff like @MrConway @Seraphice @Crysantos and who the [edited]is else on the so called "wg staff" come here to tell us how we are going to enjoy this

bunch of ****

 

I don't think they are going to answer anything here, dude. They are in full coward mode on. I don't even think there are moderators anymore in this forum, besides that "IA" that edits certain words.

[lovelacebeer]

On the whole issue of getting a reply;

 

 I remember last week on the WOWS twitch stream where they said that forums are a dying medium for engaging players as discord has replaced them. 
 

So I presume we will see a steady reduction of interaction here from WG as well as a continuing reduction in the amount of active moderation ( not that I’m criticising those who volunteer their time to do moderation, I just get the impression there’s hardly anyone left who does it).

[Aragathor]

8 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

I remember last week on the WOWS twitch stream where they said that forums are a dying medium for engaging players as discord has replaced them. 

A forum is not a dying medium, it's just easier to ignore discord thanks to the chat like structure.

WG are cowards.

[MixuS]

I have always wondered why subs need homing torps in the first place. Only reason I can think of is to have some way of attacking other subs, but even then homing torps could just be able to hit only other subs.

How subs are better than torp dd's even without homing torps:

• They are already stealthier than torp dd's
• They reload faster than torp dd's
• They can single launch torps, which only UK dd's can do
• They can move in stealth to point blank range before attacking. Only ITA DD's with their smoke can do that, and their targets are warned by aproaching smoke screen
• Can launch torps forward and backward (not all though)

How subs are worse than torp dd's:

• Slower (with exceptions)
• Cannot launch torps to sides
• No guns (except JPN one)

So with subs already being better torp boats than torp dd's, why do they need homing torps on top of that?

[endlessBoogie]

Vor 25 Minuten, MixuS sagte:

So with subs already being better torp boats than torp dd's, why do they need homing torps on top of that?

To make the 30%ers open their wallets...

[Andrewbassg]

 

2 hours ago, MixuS said:

Only reason I can think of is to have some way of attacking other subs, but even then homing torps could just be able to hit only other subs.

Yes that was a good point and idea. Of course only lasted until they removed that.

 

2 hours ago, MixuS said:

I have always wondered why subs need homing torps in the first place

I think it has to do with their lack of vision, them bumbling around for 3 years and the challenge to shoehorn a class into the game in which doesn't belong. And now it is about laziness  ( "we somehow did something, so lets just leave it as is" sorta way).

[MarChil]

23 hours ago, Porpoise said:

The sad thing is there were just 2 naval warfare games that got me engaged. The original Navy Field and WoWS. 

 Unfortunately naval warfare does not attract masses, because it is slow paced and tactical combat so WG has no competition on the market. They put a lot of effort into the ships models, graphics, sounds etc. and so few into making the game actually better. Imagine how great this game could be if they have focused on the simpliest and most basic mechanics of the combat - gunnery, armor protection, spotting system. I think the best balance in WOWS was when it was 2 nations only. But some clever heads found out that more gimmick=more fun and completely ignored the original game as a benchmark for the future. 

To hard for them, Asia seems to want just nice pixels (and that's the only growth market right now), they need to spit out new ships every patch no matter what because that's what it's all about (at least, that's what WG's EU mouthpiece says, so who knows if it is true), they ran out of good ideas a while back, so now we just get the ones that didn't make it first time, etc, etc, etc.

[MarChil]

2 hours ago, MixuS said:

So with subs already being better torp boats than torp dd's, why do they need homing torps on top of that?

Because they have this wonderous idea that if they don't pump-out ships at a rate that makes a vickers MG feel slow, they will loose players. The fact that they are loosing players because they just pump out ships without thinking them through hasn't occeured to them, because WG seems to favor hiring rejects from the middle-earth academy for dice designers as senior devs I guess.