[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #26 Posted March 5 22 minutes ago, Captain_Lootbox said: Flamu definitely seems a lot less angry recently in his videos. Married? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BIF] K82J Players 827 posts 10,200 battles Report post #27 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Andrewbassg said: Married? My all-time favourite sitcom ( or how is it categorised ). 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Thalandor_gaming Players 79 posts 28,195 battles Report post #28 Posted March 5 (edited) Le 05/03/2023 à 19:57, Andrewbassg a dit : False. 1) Irrelevant If those ships can realistically met in battle. 2) Irrelevant, for the above mentioned reasons 3) Again, irrelevant, for the above mentioned reasons 4) And again, irrelevant, for the above mentioned reasons. 5) Not irrelevant , however just underscore the validity of the video. 6) Irrelevant for N number of reasons I can elaborate if you really want.... Even though they can meet, they will never meet under the circumstances shown in the video (My point 3). Making of all your statement false. [edit] But I do appreciate that you took the time to write some arguments and not just repeat what other players are saying. Edited March 7 by Gaso_ This message has been edited due to his inappropriate content. Gaso_ 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #29 Posted March 5 I think such simple maneuvers as you recommend WG are only possible without any brain activity..?!? Of course, I don't expect an answer, since our feedback doesn't interest you anyway. It is clear to me that the silent majority wants exactly that, so my best regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XYZ] Cheeky_chappie Players 192 posts 6,376 battles Report post #30 Posted March 5 He just posted a full video on that:Dodging Alliance Torps - These Things Are Like Taxes - YouTube 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #31 Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 1) A heal Kyiv is arguably the worst T8 anti sub DD. Bad rudder shift and concealment put the Kyiv at a disadvantage. So, he should only test with the best ships and ignore ships with disadvantages? 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 2) The map Ocean doesn't allow the Kyiv to go dark, which puts him at an even greater disadvantage. True, then again, you have plenty of open spaces on all maps and he isn't using the entire map. 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 3) We dont know which submarine he faced, it could be a T10 for all we know. But we do know, and it aint a tier X. 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 4) The engagement was within a controlled environment. This particular 1on1 situation will almost never happen in a real match. Indeed, the sub would spot his opponent who will then also get pounded by the subs teammates. So this particular situation is more in favor of the Kiev. 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 5) Crosstorping with one sub has always been possible. It doesnt just suddenly spring into existence because one emotional unstable streamer makes one video about it. This type of torps is not in game yet. They turn and track way better than all other torps. And oh yeah, it's a premium sub... 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: 6) Even in this unrealistic situation, where there are no other objectives, the Kyiv can still win. Your HP don't matter in a fight against a sub if you can get a good attack vector on the sub. Sure, but the sub can also win. 4 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: My personal conclusion: Stop eating up Flamus BS videos and spread his childish behavior. Yeah, he is toxic and loves the drama. This video however was quite nice as a showcase to this sub's capabilities? 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #32 Posted March 5 (edited) Le 05/03/2023 à 21:08, Thalandor_gaming a dit : [edit] So no offence but a) you do sound like one. Coz you came here, to a public forum. However it is true that you can freely chose to whom to respond b) while your stats ( whatever they may be, I don't look up stats ) have relevancy in terms of "courtesy' and respect, they have none in a discussion/debate, no matter how you feel about them.The only thing that matters is the value of your words, reasoning and arguments. c) appealing to stats is called "argument from authority" and legit can be countered by so called "ad hominem" arguments (attention !! not attacks) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Types_of_ad_hominem_arguments (Note look up circumstancial ad hominems and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Usage_in_debates and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority# So.....just eff off with this stats whoring. Le 05/03/2023 à 21:08, Thalandor_gaming a dit : Even though they can meet, they will never meet under the circumstances shown in the video That's solely your assumption, based on thin air aka petting your belly. Le 05/03/2023 à 21:08, Thalandor_gaming a dit : (My point 3) Except that this clip is an excerpt from a longer video. And this one addresses all your concerns. And.... Le 05/03/2023 à 21:08, Thalandor_gaming a dit : Making of all your statement false .....no they are not. False are opinions masquerading as facts. What I've said are all factual* aka fact based), however you can still dispute the relevancy of them.And also you can still feel about them as being false, just like there are people out there who feel that..... the Earth is flat. That being said, stats or not stats......as you can see, you can educate yourself a bit further on ....debates. :) And.... sorry* (I mean not really) my points still stand.... Edited March 7 by Gaso_ This message has been edited due to his inappropriate content. Gaso_ 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #33 Posted March 5 Vor 3 Stunden, Karasu_Browarszky sagte: a little memento Excuse me?! 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #34 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Excuse me?! Minimemento? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUMR] bouncer8409 Players 463 posts 31,462 battles Report post #35 Posted March 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #36 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Excuse me?! I was busy acting smartie and this gem went over my head...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #37 Posted March 5 4 hours ago, KhorneFlake said: Cool, another Flamu fanboy. You do realize Flamu is just a crybaby? For you he is a crybaby, for some other players he is just someone who is giving the facts on the table. You like those facts or not that is your problem personaly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #38 Posted March 5 7 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: https://clips.twitch.tv/LightAnimatedDugongCoolStoryBob-f5ktt9wo5x4s5mnq Oh boy you amateurs... This is how you do it 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #39 Posted March 5 5 hours ago, Miscommunication_dept said: You just fire to each side of the target then hit the ping when they are to the sides of the ship. Alliance torps look like they have half the turning circle though Yes, half the turning cycle and apparently dont stop homing until they're next to your hull..... good testing there Wedgie ..... good selling point for players to throw money at tho. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #40 Posted March 5 Just a quick reminder folks that.... ....meaning we are TARFU, FUBAR, BOHICA and..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #41 Posted March 5 Minimum homing for Alliance on DD is 110m for a single ping and 70m for a double ping, on CAs it's 650m and 330m and for BBs it's 900m and 750m. No surprise that only BBs do stand a chance and even if BB would fail to dodge he can can take a few, not a big deal with all those HP. But try to dodge torps actively intercepting your position until 70m - what with WoWS speeds and ship sizes is point blank range. There is no DD capable of doing this. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SEAL1] BREAD_123 Players 2 posts 5,761 battles Report post #42 Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: And at the risk of sounding like an elitist snob, but with a 48% WR there is nothing you can elaborate that I don't have a better understanding of. Cool, I have a 0.34% win rate higher than yours so obviously your claims are [edited] too 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #43 Posted March 5 6 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said: Do you seriously believe I care about people on the forums? Yes you do. Otherwise you'd not be posting here .... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhound421a Players 82 posts Report post #44 Posted March 5 Well alliance never got spearfish mod 0! Though amusingly lasts just long enough to get the early and dreadful tigerfish torpedoes (the late models were still terrible but at least worked more often )which are massively outclassed by the fictional torps in game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOKTR] Viridem Players 381 posts 13,270 battles Report post #45 Posted March 6 Well, the homing capabilities of these torps seem absolutely outrageous. As if hunting a submarine in a DD wasn't a hard enough task already... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #46 Posted March 6 Just add antiship missiles to the game already. Don't just shoot it in the head once when you have a full clip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Porpoise Players 653 posts 775 battles Report post #47 Posted March 6 It is basically impossible to dodge these torps in a DD without burning your DCP. Considering the fact the DDs have no anti torp protection it is an another dissaster to the class. The range at Alliances torps stop homing on DDs is sub 100m. GL dodging that. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #48 Posted March 6 14 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said: Even though they can meet, they will never meet under the circumstances shown in the video (My point 3). Making of all your statement false. And at the risk of sounding like an elitist snob, but with a 48% WR there is nothing you can elaborate that I don't have a better understanding of. But I do appreciate that you took the time to write some arguments and not just repeat what other players are saying. What could a scrub like that teach a Hatsuharu main like you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] endlessBoogie [_I_] Players 270 posts 12,752 battles Report post #49 Posted March 6 Vor 13 Stunden, bouncer8409 sagte: Sub-mains be like: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ELEC] LiveWire___ Players 1,195 posts 9,252 battles Report post #50 Posted March 6 (edited) Le 05/03/2023 à 18:24, Zuihou_Kai_Ni a dit : Do you seriously believe I care about people on the forums? This will probably be the last thing I post for a while but here we go. [edit] I've seen it all and I don't need this sort of entertainment anymore as it has become stale. Have fun Edited March 7 by Gaso_ This message has been edited due to his inappropriate content. Gaso_ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
