WG: By HEAVILY nerfing BaseXP earnings in Brawl because of short game length you really removed the incentive for players to play it!

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

WG: By HEAVILY nerfing BaseXP earnings in Brawl because of short game length you really removed the incentive for players to play it!

 

 

Please check this:

 

 

 

 

 

I did almost 100K damage in under 5 minutes and killed enemy ship - and got well below 1.000 BaseXP.

 

Every member of enemy team earned less than 200 BaseXP.

 

 

They would get more in CoOp... this is really really ridiculous now...

 

@Seraphice

@YabbaCoe

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

let me ask why do you need these usless XP anyway ?

 i have 58 million xp ... can do nothing with them :D

 

[Aethervoxx]

13 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

By HEAVILY nerfing BaseXP

TY, Leo_Apollo11. If this is correct  then this confirms my correct  decision to not even bother getting suckered into playing another  mode that further divides  the player base .

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

17 minutes ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

let me ask why do you need these usless XP anyway ?

 i have 58 million xp ... can do nothing with them :D

 

 

I have 46M... but that is beside point... the point is that BaseXP earnings directly influence the CaptainXP and FreeXP...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

9 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

I have 46M... but that is beside point... the point is that BaseXP earnings directly influence the CaptainXP and FreeXP...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

i have millions commander XP and millions free XP also ...

 

btw , you are not going to play brawls all the time right ? you get the rewards then go back to randoms , so ... :D

[SurfaceFish]

It’s a quick battle, so sh*t basic xp, WG learned from their mistakes of give too much basic xp for people to farm ship grind, like 4 ships divisions run. Remember how quickly WG shuts off asymmetric battles when lower tier ships were able to farm nice xp against higher tier ships?

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

43 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

[...] you really removed the incentive for players to play it!

 

Instructions unclear - Are we playing the same game?

You play exactly one brawl, win it and get 750k silver on top. That's it. Then you proceed to wait for the next season to do it again, with another atrocious setup or tier.

 

I fail to see how exp play into that.

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

have millions commander XP

Never enough commander exp. I bet you don't have 122 commanders with 21 points like I do. And I want more and more. Cause why not? 

[Andrewbassg]

Far from trying to be contrarian, but the main appeal of this round is one thing . A complete lack  of monkes. I mean of the diving and of the flying variety.So legit fun can be had.

 

As for the topic, obviously it is designed this way. I had one game where I got 2200 BXP. I sunk all four ships  and did 160+k dmg ( no screen). On the other hand I also had this

 

 

On 3/4/2023 at 2:27 AM, Andrewbassg said:

Also what ranked?

This is a brawl. Except me nobody entered in the caps We lost and nobody sunk.....

 

 WHAT... ranked?? That;s what Weegee has done to the game...... 

 

 

But what was striking was the absolute lunacy and  idiocy of the MM. On NA I had constantly games where the TWO dd;'s been cast on the red team. I can understand once, maybe twice, but Im talking about 10+ games, while never on my side and that's even statistically is impossible.

 

So it is clear that it was manipulated.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

7 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

On NA I had constantly games where the TWO dd;'s been cast on the red team. I can understand once, maybe twice, but Im talking about 10+ games, while never on my side and that's even statistically is impossible.

 

So it is clear that it was manipulated. 

You can easily manipulate this yourself so that you will always have at least one DD on your side: Just play it yourself.

[159Hunter]

16 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

You can easily manipulate this yourself so that you will always have at least one DD on your side: Just play it yourself.

Or play a cruiser that is useful for dealing with DDs 

[Andrewbassg]

1 hour ago, 159Hunter said:

Or play a cruiser that is useful for dealing with DDs 

Except I consider Agir a good fit for brawls, overall. Tanky(!!), almost very good secondaries, german hydro, torps, 9 hard htting guns and if not build into concealment.. good maneuverability.

 

 

[Shaka_D]

16 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

WG: By HEAVILY nerfing BaseXP earnings in Brawl because of short game length you really removed the incentive for players to play it!

 

Yep, one of the reasons I stay away from Brawl. WG need to rethink many of their policies. But then again, if they're not as invested in playing their own as we are, they'll never be able to empathise with how players feel about things.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

2 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Except I consider Agir a good fit for brawls, overall. Tanky(!!), almost very good secondaries, german hydro, torps, 9 hard htting guns and if not build into concealment.. good maneuverability.

But why complain about your counter then? You could choose an otherwise weaker cruiser that brings radar to the table to deal with a DD. It's like rock complaining about paper...

Also, you bring hydro, torps for smoke combing and secondaries to help with aiming issues - that's way more than other ships have. If you are really entirely incapable of dealing with a DD, thats more akin to a rock complaining about wet toilet paper...

 

Also - you make it sound as if the enemies do have two additional DDs. But your team has one other class more, which also helps, if you manage to fight on your terms.

[BlueMax1916]

Ridiculous:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunk all four enemy ships after all three of my team mates died early (Rupprecht and both cruisers yoloed in) and conquered back both caps. Match lasted 7:42.

 

One enemy DD was on full health , the other one nearly full health. Should have awarded good BXP.

 

 

 

[159Hunter]

7 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Except I consider Agir a good fit for brawls, overall. Tanky(!!), almost very good secondaries, german hydro, torps, 9 hard htting guns and if not build into concealment.. good maneuverability.

But bad against DDs. So you need to make a choice: do you want a utility CA to deal with DDs or do you want a tanky CA to deal more dmg.

Choices like this are good for the game. 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

30 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

But bad against DDs. So you need to make a choice: do you want a utility CA to deal with DDs or do you want a tanky CA to deal more dmg.

Choices like this are good for the game. 

Also speccing into RPF helps if DD issues persist. At least you know from which direction to expect torpedos. Used up all skill points on dealing more damage? Tough luck... or git gud so you don't need RPF anymore.

[Andrewbassg]

50 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

But bad against DDs. So you need to make a choice: do you want a utility CA to deal with DDs or do you want a tanky CA to deal more dmg.

 

So.....yes and no. Its actually not bad ( at all) against a dd and my point was about constantly having games( on NA) against TWO dd's while my side having routinely none. Or in best case one.

 

50 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

 Choices like this are good for the game. 

 Absolutely and also are personal choices. Except MM casting constantly two dd's on one side..... RPF ( which I have do have) or not.

[lup3s]

Ofc the BXP is nerfed into the ground ... WG can't have too many people playing a mode where there are no CVs nor Submarines 

[TonyStarkshoudnthavedied]

A Brawl, even 4v4 lasts appr. 1/3 of a random or ranked game. 1/3 of BXP is logic. And it is not 1/3 it is more like half. And if the low XP earnings will keep away the players who will bring to Brawl the ships they are just grinding, all the better. I can live for two-three days on the weeks when we have brawl with lower per battle (but not lower per day) earnings for exchange of an exciting battle type with radically different MM then the main types. Brawl is definitely a different type of challenge, and this week it is so nice, T9, no CV or sub, really interesting team compositions which makes you think how to counter and I really like the map where we spawn wide out and have to solve that. This brawl was the best in a long time.

[lup3s]

17 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

So.....yes and no. Its actually not bad ( at all) against a dd and my point was about constantly having games( on NA) against TWO dd's while my side having routinely none. Or in best case one.

 

You should easily win these, no ?

 

In a small environment DDs are less strong, imo.

 

We went with Pommern + Rupprecht + Siegfried + Alaska. Won all but one. Muh variety. 

[DFens_666]

3 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

You should easily win these, no ?

 

In a small environment DDs are less strong, imo.

 

We went with Pommern + Rupprecht + Siegfried + Alaska. Won all but one. Muh variety. 

 

I think it was more fun when it was 3x3 and you HAD to have 1 of each class. Having 2 BBs and 2 BCs is too stale imo. The BCs just lay anchor bow on and the BBs are fighting with secondaries on who gets better fire RNG.

 

[lup3s]

2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Having 2 BBs and 2 BCs is too stale imo.

 

Basically what this game has become, imo.

[Seraphice]

Hello Leo!

The rewards in brawls were changed to be more in line in terms of time/reward like other modes. Previously brawls was giving a lot of rewards compared to less time spent, so we have adjusted it. We're closely monitoring the rewards now and seeing if we need to make any further adjustments, though of course I understand your concerns.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[Andrewbassg]

3 hours ago, lup3s said:

You should easily win these, no ?

  

In a small environment DDs are less strong, imo.

 

Well....yes and no. Dd's have a significant speed advantage, which translates into early capping, which in turn puts pressure on the "team" and teams are......yeah. On certain maps having 2 dd's is like an autowin.

 

3 hours ago, lup3s said:

We went with Pommern + Rupprecht + Siegfried + Alaska. 

Solo warrior.

3 hours ago, lup3s said:

 Won all but one. Muh variety. 

:)