[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #1 Posted March 2 I just saw, in battle, three Alte Barossos. A T2 ship. These part of an incoming Spanish Cruiser tech tree line? I will get something in that tech tree line when it goes live - not sure which one yet tho it will definitely be a historical one rather than some napkin design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #2 Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: I just saw, in battle, three Alte Barossos. A T2 ship. These part of an incoming Spanish Cruiser tech tree line? I will get something in that tech tree line when it goes live - not sure which one yet tho it will definitely be a historical one rather than some napkin design. To be fair the Almirante Baroso *is* historical. see here One of only three ships in the line (the t1 and La Argentina (t5)) you can say that about. Don't think any River class frigate was armed with 2x2 102's though.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #3 Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, lafeel said: a Cofferdam-type armored belt to protect vital areas, a double hull, a battering ram and two masts. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #4 Posted March 2 7 minutes ago, lafeel said: Don't think any River class frigate was armed with 2x2 102's though.. The Modified River aka Bay class (though technically it's a type and not a class), Culgoa class (based on hull number) or Murchison class (based on construction date), also known as the Royal Australian Navy's River type escort Group II, was equipped with 2*2 102 They came so late that they were finished post-war, and thus only four were even completed, with at least 10 cancelled. So it's no wonder they get overlooked. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #5 Posted March 2 16 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Thank you, always good to have a laugh. Also, I stand corrected, some Aussie Rivers did indeed mount 2x2 (one forward, one aft, just as the tier 1) 102's. 13 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: The Modified River aka Bay class (though technically it's a type and not a class), Culgoa class (based on hull number) or Murchison class (based on construction date), also known as the Royal Australian Navy's River type escort Group II, was equipped with 2*2 102 If you want to be technical the Bays were modified Lochs, themselves a modification (simplification) of the River class intended for mass production. Of course with the large head start the Rivers had they out produced the Lochs something like 3 to 1.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #6 Posted March 2 14 minutes ago, lafeel said: To be fair the Almirante Baroso *is* historical. see here One of only three ships in the line (the t1 and La Argentina (t5)) you can say that about. One of those, then, is the Ship I will retain. T1 is a non-starter (well the starter) hence that means the T2 or the T5 for me. * the bonus for T2 is it never sees the abominable reworked CVs (nor even the chance of a T6 Sub if one plays a T5 Cruiser). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #7 Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, lafeel said: If you want to be technical the Bays were modified Lochs, themselves a modification (simplification) of the River class intended for mass production. Of course with the large head start the Rivers had they out produced the Lochs something like 3 to 1.. I'm not aware of all the details and intricacies when it comes to escort vessels, but in such number, there's bound to be supertypes and subclasses all over. But it doesn't seem too much of a stretch to call them all part of a big river supertype of sorts. By the way, I don't really follow what happens in the game at all, is there a 2*2 102 river type boat in there now ? Like, they doin an Australian branch... or what ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #8 Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: One of those, then, is the Ship I will retain. T1 is a non-starter (well the starter) hence that means the T2 or the T5 for me. * the bonus for T2 is it never sees the abominable rewirked CVs (nor even the chance of a T6 Sub if one plays a T5 Cruiser). As a further bonus she should play near as *edited* to identical to her sister in the USN tree. Which, of course, would be the Albany. (the USN bought her before she could sail to Brazil) 11 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: I'm not aware of all the details and intricacies when it comes to escort vessels, but in such number, there's bound to be supertypes and subclasses all over. But it doesn't seem too much of a stretch to call them all part of a big river supertype of sorts. By the way, I don't really follow what happens in the game at all, is there a 2*2 102 river type boat in there now ? Like, they doin an Australian branch... or what ? Yes there is. Catch is, it's the Pan American tier 1. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #9 Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, lafeel said: Yes there is. Catch is, it's the Pan American tier 1. Waw. There really wasn't a better pick for a pan-american branch hu ? -.- Rethorical question. Don't mind it. I shouldn't have asked, I knew what to expect. If they really wanted a River type at tier one that could have taken Asheville or Natchez, at least that qualifies as "pan american". Or any canadian one for that matters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,162 battles Report post #10 Posted March 2 26 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: I just saw, in battle, three Alte Barossos. A T2 ship. These part of an incoming Spanish Cruiser tech tree line This is not Spanish line, it's Pan American. I thought that you saw an upcoming Spanish line ship that wasn't even leaked yet. Calling it Spanish is like calling Japanese ship as "Pan Asian". Not really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #11 Posted March 2 10 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: Waw. There really wasn't a better pick for a pan-american branch hu ? -.- Rethorical question. Don't mind it. I shouldn't have asked, I knew what to expect. If they really wanted a River type at tier one that could have taken Asheville, at least that qualifies as "pan american". Could not agree with you more. But I don't get WG's logic either.. At least they had more sense than to even *try* to make something higher tier than 1 out of the Rivers.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #12 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, lafeel said: As a further bonus she should play near as *edited* to identical to her sister in the USN tree. Which, of course, would be the Albany. (the USN bought her before she could sail to Brazil) Yes there is. Catch is, it's the Pan American tier 1. Ahh, so this is the Pan-American Cruiser tech tree line - nice to have something for the Latin American players &, ofc, any historical ship afficionados . The Albany you say? I have her - it is a beautiful looking ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #13 Posted March 2 11 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: Ahh, so this is the Pan-American Cruiser tech tree line - nice to have something for the Latin American players &, ofc, any historical ship afficionados . The Albany you say? I have her - it is a beautiful looking ship. She is. And historical, which is why she sits (largely gathering rust, along with the rest of the t4 and below premiums) pretty in my port. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #14 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: This is not Spanish line, it's Pan American. TY for the correction. Tho, in my defence, most of these ships do have Spanish names Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #15 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: The Albany you say? I have her - it is a beautiful looking ship. I've never really understood the appeal of older vessels. They always look a bit rough and clunky to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #16 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, lafeel said: which is why she sits (largely gathering rust, along with the rest of the t4 and below premiums) pretty in my port. Sad to see that sentiment as there are so many T4 & below ships that can be fun to play. Some play exclusively, of all tiers, in T1 . I don't stoop to that, however, I do play the other lower tiers - I random the ship I play from several lists of ships I have made. Too bad not more players will play the lower tiers these days (even T5 & T6). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #17 Posted March 2 12 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: Sad to see that sentiment as there are so many T4 & below ships that can be fun to play. Some play exclusively, of all tiers, in T1 . I don't stoop to that, however, I do play the other lower tiers - I random the ship I play from several lists of ships I have made. Too bad not more players will play the lower tiers these days (even T5 & T6). Could not agree with you more mate. There's even one t3 historical cruiser that I wouldn't mind getting, but as long as she's useless for missions I just don't feel like spending the money. What ship would that be I hear you ask? The Variag. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #18 Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: I've never really understood the appeal of older vessels. To each their own. A lot of players like the looks of these older in time vessels. WoWS, when it began, might have begun with even older ships - like 1880s/1890s ones (rather than, basically, 1900). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #19 Posted March 2 You all are ignoring the elephant in the room. Who plays a tier where one can notice tier 2 ships in the first place? Maybe @Aethervoxx is trying to apply for clan [COAL]? They can show him how to super unicum.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #20 Posted March 2 1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said: To each their own. A lot of players like the looks of these older in time vessels. That, sure. I just don't understand it. But... 1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said: WoWS, when it began, might have begun with even older ships - like 1880s/1890s ones (rather than, basically, 1900). I'm not sure that would have been a good thing, especially if you like these ships... But maybe that's once again a personal feeling~ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2 1 minute ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: You all are ignoring the elephant in the room. Who plays a tier where one can notice tier 2 ships in the first place? Maybe @Aethervoxx is trying to apply for clan [COAL]? They can show him how to super unicum.... LOL, you made my day, Karkong, lol. My current clan fits my battle chat banned personality rather too closely , however, maybe that clan would be a better fit? As to 'noticing a T2 unknown ship - I happen to play a bit in lower tiers - still fun there although there's 'Bots' - surprisingly, sometimes there are no Bots - we all know why some players 'refuge' into low tiers, now, don't we? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #22 Posted March 2 21 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: To each their own. A lot of players like the looks of these older in time vessels. WoWS, when it began, might have begun with even older ships - like 1880s/1890s ones (rather than, basically, 1900). Should do a special mode some time with actual sailing ships just for the lols.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #23 Posted March 2 Vor 44 Minuten, Karkong_the_Impaler sagte: You all are ignoring the elephant in the room. Who plays a tier where one can notice tier 2 ships in the first place? To be fair, currently WoWs stops being a ships game at T2. Above that, it's a planes and submarines game. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2 50 minutes ago, lafeel said: What ship would that be I hear you ask? The Variag. Here it is Iafeel, with the white perma camo, the Varyag - I think it was rather inexpensive to purchase with doubloons (image slightly off-center). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,343 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: You all are ignoring the elephant in the room. Who plays a tier where one can notice tier 2 ships in the first place? Maybe @Aethervoxx is trying to apply for clan [COAL]? They can show him how to super unicum.... One reason is regrinding ships. I have now on my regrind on RN battlecruisers, the early access got me nearly all without playing so now I start the old fashioned way for a new line from T3, a few games on each tier and now I am just finished with Queen Mary a fine looking vessel, and also famous for one thing apart from exploding in connection with the IJN Imperial Japanese Navy. Does anyone of you know what? Spoiler The IJN had a few observers onboard RN ships during the battle of Jutland and one of them was onboard Queen Mary and perished with the ship. As you maybe know Corbett was onboard Asahi during the Tsushima battle and wrote large books of Russo_japanese war (which I have, quite interesting) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
