[SPACE] farko1 Players 41 posts 16,001 battles Report post #1 Posted March 1 Link: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2022/12/illinois-tier-ix-american-battleship.html Main Battery Armament: Main Battery 3 x 4 203 mm/55 RF Mk.16 in a turret: Max Range: 18.5 km Reload: 9.0 s Minimum Shell Type Switching Time: 10.0 s 180° Turn Time: 30.0 s Dispersion at Max Range: 203 m Sigma: 1.8σ Estimated Resource Cost: 46,000-48,000Research Points A little bit long reload ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[88TH] Siagor Players 1,336 posts Report post #2 Posted March 1 Des Moines/Salem guns, but due to balans komrade they got twice the reload. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,162 battles Report post #3 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Siagor said: Des Moines/Salem guns, but due to balans komrade they got twice the reload. Well they're having same base reload as Baltimore. 48k RB is minimum price. I would say 48-50k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #4 Posted March 2 It will be fun to watch ppl trying to hit something with this with range mod (if aviable) and 40s shell flight. I'd rather play Annapolis or any BB with proper guns with overmatch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPACE] farko1 Players 41 posts 16,001 battles Report post #5 Posted March 2 6 hours ago, Siagor said: Des Moines/Salem guns, but due to balans komrade they got twice the reload. shouldnt BB have better reload then cruiser. They have bigger space, better conditions ... 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #6 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, farko1 said: shouldnt BB have better reload then cruiser. They have bigger space, better conditions ... Shouldn't BBs that have a cleveland strapped to the side be able to use that firepower? It's a arcade game... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted March 2 Great! Finally a cruiser that won't get overpenetrated all the time. What a tasty HP pinata. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPACE] farko1 Players 41 posts 16,001 battles Report post #8 Posted March 2 as much as i know it was training ship for gunners. It can be a good anti dd and anti cruiser ship ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #9 Posted March 2 2 hours ago, farko1 said: shouldnt BB have better reload then cruiser. They have bigger space, better conditions ... you know this is funny ... from all the information on the actual project this is based on, they had some serious trouble fitting the autoloader into quad turrets even on a BB hull ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #10 Posted March 2 It's an interesting concept, I look forward to seeing it in action. In theory it might work, as the DM guns are super good at short to medium-short range, and the only real weakness is the fragility of the platform. That said, close range optimised BBs are in general a pretty difficult concept to execute at least in current randoms meta. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPACE] farko1 Players 41 posts 16,001 battles Report post #11 Posted March 2 secondary build is not so bad. i think that is good for coop at least ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #12 Posted March 2 3 hours ago, farko1 said: shouldnt BB have better reload then cruiser. They have bigger space, better conditions ... BUffalo has 11 sec reload with same amount of guns. Cant really compare different tier ships to one another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,162 battles Report post #13 Posted March 2 8 hours ago, Lootboxer said: It will be fun to watch ppl trying to hit something with this with range mod (if aviable) and 40s shell flight. I'd rather play Annapolis or any BB with proper guns with overmatch. It's a medium range BB, most effective at 14-15km. Base range is like Salem range mod, about 18km which is fine for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #14 Posted March 2 IMHO 1) Reload is crap, if you are taking the BB slot with 8” guns at least you could be expected to bring the DPM to the table 2) If she is RB I might get her just for the giggles as I have RPs to spare anyway but other then some coop I wouldnt expect much unless they give her superhral super secs or both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,256 battles Report post #15 Posted March 2 I'm still unclear why she is better than a cruiser or BB. Like others said, guns are easy to knock out and have battleship burn time. I like cruisers with BB guns. But I'm not seeing how a BB with cruiser guns can have much match impacts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #16 Posted March 2 So... is this better or worse than the Massachusets? This is also T9, so no good for operations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #17 Posted March 2 Finally an actually good cruiser. No utility but very good armor, next to impossible to citadel, good guns, acceptable AA, ok handling, concealment and an improved heal. Promising battle cruiser.(unlike the ones that use cruiser icon minus alaska.) 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,824 battles Report post #18 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: This is also T9, so no good for operations. ...yet 🙂 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[URUC] S_h_i_v_a Players 674 posts Report post #19 Posted March 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #20 Posted March 2 Another RBP ship that I won't get. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2 3 hours ago, SurfaceFish said: I'm still unclear why she is better than a cruiser or BB US Cruiser Heavy AP is nasty stuff. The main brake on it is the fact that the ships which have it have to spend most of their time hiding from enemy fire. This one doesn't. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,256 battles Report post #22 Posted March 2 28 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: US Cruiser Heavy AP is nasty stuff. The main brake on it is the fact that the ships which have it have to spend most of their time hiding from enemy fire. This one doesn't. But how would you play her effectively? If you play nose in, then you risk getting your turrets permanently disabled. Open water spamming HE? But there are far better cruisers can do that? I'm trying to come up with some advantages she offers over the currents ships I have in port other than it is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #23 Posted March 2 Fantasy crap when real US battleships are missing, New Jersey and Wisconsin Illinois was actually laid down in 1942 but was scrapped before completion Had it been completed it would have like its sisters, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin and New Jersey been armed with 9 x 406mm (16") guns, not some stupid 203mm Desmo clone rubbish 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAOWS] Fediuld Beta Tester 326 posts 9,629 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2 Illinois looks like a really good ship. First of all the hull is an enhanced Iowa, with the citadel under water, while is faster than some cruisers at 32.5knt (Iowa is at 28knt). With Plotting Room 1 has 21.33km range with the typical Desmo/Salem arc it can set fires from above islands, plus 5% better accuracy. Last slot can use either Main Battery Mod 3 to lower reload at 7.92s or Artillery Plotting Room 2 for 11% better accuracy and 9s reload. Considering has the American cruiser 203s, it can set fires and even citadel even battleships like Montana if aim at the flat strip bellow the deck. I will get her with RBP since all the current options aren't than interesting to me and bought UU modules that make a difference like the Atrocious, Harugumo ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,573 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2 woat i c: cl characteristic guns on a bb hull.... like in: "big'un'cl" with actual armor ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites