Horror MM and predictable outcome

[Herbstnebel1975]

6 hours ago, SurfaceFish said:

MM is crap because almost all players are dog crap with less than 45% WR, so they don't know where to go, best ships to target and can't hit what they are shooting.

 

Very few unicums either play with try hard div or good enough to carry solo. Us decent players are just have to play with MM rolling a loaded dice. Once in a while we get a decent game, most of times, it makes no difference to the outcome no matter what we do.

 

Accept this and stop wasting flags and boosters outside clan battles. You will care less when MM makes you lose. 

You are so right, I couldn't have said any better.

[Herbstnebel1975]

45 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

We do not know that, since you did not.

 

But it is funny when people complain about their choices.

I don't complain about my choice of vessel, and maybe because I choose a sub I did survice till the end and was able to sink a BB. To be honest, it's just the skills of my team vs the enemy that frustrates me.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

I don't complain about my choice of vessel, and maybe because I choose a sub I did survice till the end and was able to sink a BB. To be honest, it's just the skills of my team vs the enemy that frustrates me.

As I said, that was not obvious from your screenshots.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

1 hour ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

Belgium has the best beer. I guess you are a Heineken lover or an Englishman who prefers beer without a collar....also known as pipi ;-)

You know the best belgian beer? Erdinger! Because the belgians don't have any good beer.

[Redcap375]

1 hour ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

You are so right, I couldn't have said any better.

 

I know, he is completely right. 

 

Get MM as it makes things so much better.  You don't worry if your team is full of muppets and a lose is close to expected. Easier for the soul.

[159Hunter]

3 hours ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

Belgium has the best beer.

I don't doubt that, but it sure as heck isn't Duvel.

 

[Verblonde]

Not sure about 'horror', but whoever coded the Coop MM would be - were they an ice-cream flavour - Pralines & Richard:

 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

8 hours ago, Verblonde said:

Not sure about 'horror', but whoever coded the Coop MM would be - were they an ice-cream flavour - Pralines & Richard:

 

 

 

[Herbstnebel1975]

11 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

I don't doubt that, but it sure as heck isn't Duvel.

 

In the south of Belgium they say, les goûts et les couleurs on ne discutent pas and in the north, over smaken en kleuren discusiëren we niet. Duvel is my favorite, but I also like Palm 5.5°, Malheur Blond 10°, Westmalle Tripel 9.5°, Geuze Marriage Parfait 8.5°, Karmeliet 8.5°, Orval 6°. Only the amber, blond and white beers. Visit Belgium and try them all ;-)

[Herbstnebel1975]

It's weekend...carry harder they say...Got 3 free premium days from WG, I think as a motivation to keep me online. #HorrorMM during the weekends  

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

17 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

It's weekend...carry harder they say...Got 3 free premium days from WG, I think as a motivation to keep me online. #HorrorMM during the weekends  

If you don't win, you haven't carried hard enough. And looking at the results, you haven't really tried. So... git gud?

 

[Herbstnebel1975]

5 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

If you don't win, you haven't carried hard enough. And looking at the results, you haven't really tried. So... git gud?

 

You're a funny man

[Herbstnebel1975]

Just wanted to share this, first time I spawned on this map with Orion tier 4. Great, let's have a start  ...

[Herbstnebel1975]

It's not all, but a lot about luck and not only skill. First win of this weekend after X battles..

[MarChil]

Just now, Herbstnebel1975 said:

It's not all, but a lot about luck and not only skill. First win of this weekend after X battles..

Luck is the only thing WG can add when they fail to understand their own game. Get used to it, they will only add more RNG based stuff as they run out of common-sens.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

1 minute ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

Just wanted to share this, first time I spawned on this map with Orion tier 4. Great, let's have a start  ... 

You haven't specced into fire protection. I can tell by the pixels and the double fire in the middle of the ship. But then it's a low tier tech tree ship - I sincerely hope you don't have a 21 point captain set up for it.

 

19 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

You're a funny man

I can fully accept it if your argument is that you have reached an insurmountable skill barrier. But then I wonder - why do you complain in the first place?

 

14 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

It's not all, but a lot about luck and not only skill. First win of this weekend after X battles..

Well, yeah, that's one way to look at it - for some it is luck. Luck to find someone to carry them.

 

[lup3s]

On 2/25/2023 at 6:00 PM, Herbstnebel1975 said:

Belgium has the best beer. I guess you are a Heineken lover or an Englishman who prefers beer without a collar....also known as pipi ;-)

 

I agree that Belgium has a lot of good beers, but Duvel really isn't one of them; not very tasty with a high alcohol percentage for people to get drunk faster.

 

Orval, Chimay Bleu, Rochefort 10, Westmalle triple, Duchesse, Cuvée des Trolls, St. Feuillien, Cuvée de Château, LaChouffe, all the Geuzes ... too many to name that (imo) outclass Duvel by miles.

 

 

On 2/25/2023 at 11:47 AM, Redcap375 said:

Either way, I bet that was a crap game that not even the winners enjoyed.

 

So basically almost every (high tier) Random Battle ?

[Herbstnebel1975]

30 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

You haven't specced into fire protection. I can tell by the pixels and the double fire in the middle of the ship. But then it's a low tier tech tree ship - I sincerely hope you don't have a 21 point captain set up for it.

 

No, 16 skill.

[MrWastee]

On 2/25/2023 at 11:29 AM, MrWastee said:

winning team got 6. that nebraska with 2 buddies would've been 5/8. 3 subs and up to 5(!) player controlled squads in the air AFTER AA/cv "rework".... now let's escalate that up to the point where both, us hybrids and rn subs, are fully released.... why rts again got scrapped?!?........ nubs!

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... i need a new game ^^

*on a note (not into that beer thing here, learn german ):

... i kinda forgot about support cv's, tone and that dd with controllable plane. thus, in not so far future it will be possible to meet teams on which... every... single..... surface ship.... essentially is kind of a cv lmao. count airstrike ships on top, coz why not, plus 2 subs ltao per side having a class A popcorn show....

 

hmmm... guess choice is only to, or not to

[Redcap375]

1 hour ago, lup3s said:

So basically almost every (high tier) Random Battle ?

 

Higher tiers can be fun that's what makes it so sad.

 

I have had some really fun games over the years.  When two evenly match teams (between 1-2% WR avg), with no CV to dumpster anything that moves and no noncounter subs staying undetectable for 3/4 of the game.  When the stars a line, and forgetting about OP ship knocking around if we can, there can be some great games.  Hard fought and well worth the time we put into playing this game.

 

But having 2 toxic classes in the game that has few counters is too much. CV rework? Fine, barely manageable if both are total muppets.

 

People don't like to go against things they can no see (sub), can not hide from less smoke or do very little against (CV), hence why the majority of the community think it's toxic as....People don't want to feel defenceless, they need something they can do to at least counter a threat. Using the A and D buttons is not good enough.  Not when a sub is 5km away and a CV can drop at will simply by avoiding pre-programed flack.

 

I mean when good DD players are refusing to hunt subs (and rightly so, nor do i) that should tell you just how messed up this arcade game is. A ship designed to kill DD's become the worst to do it and CL that are designed to take out planes are worthless. That never used to be the case. 

[SurfaceFish]

21 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

I mean when good DD players are refusing to hunt subs (and rightly so)

Most DD don't have hydro, some are too slow to get on top of a sub to use depth charge. Even if you see a sub and shot your guns, the sub will div while taking very little damage thanks to the French DD saturation feature, then your DD will light up for 20 seconds to red ships ghun fire. 

 

THIS IS BY DESIGN PEOPLE! As the earlier version DD had passive hydrophone to hunt subs, and subs can't recharge div time. I'm guess the performance of the average sub players are so bad, WG changed to the current version of no go area around subs. Too bad most sub players are still dog sh*t.

 

At least CV (not soviet) in good hands helps to win games, sub are just there to farm useless damage and annoying people with pings.

[Kiagy]

 

I see this happen so often win/lose, its just not natural

 

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

 

I see this happen so often win/lose, its just not natural

Probably because there are not that many options for a match result. And draws are thankfully rare.

[Herbstnebel1975]

Tell my why, I don't like Mondays

I wanna shoot the whole day down !!!   (both defeats btw ;-)  )

 

 

[Aethervoxx]

On 2/26/2023 at 11:07 PM, ColonelPete said:

And draws are thankfully rare.

What an, imo, stupid observation. A Draw indicates that both sides played very well, so well &/or so evenly that the battle was a draw. We both know, Pete, draws were more common earlier in WoWS. Unlike the many 'roflstomps' we see in these more recent years. A draw (extremely rare now) or a close battle (rare now, no matter how you define 'close') are now exceptions to the many majority joke results that masquerade as decent battles (now).