[KLON] Firkines Players 788 posts Report post #76 Posted February 28 12 minuty temu, CTO_KPAKEHOB napisał: I would say this sounds like an overkill. WG could just convert qualifying battles to the 1 vs 1 mode, and I think that alone would prevent most players with not enough skill from entering the next league. There will be NO team to leech on, you know. Great idea if someone likes to play Schlieffen... I'm sure Daring has a good chance against him in 1 vs 1 mode and only skill will matter in such a duel... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,256 battles Report post #77 Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, CTO_KPAKEHOB said: 1 vs 1 mode I think that benefits people's with better ships than a true tests of skill. Massachusetts and Tirpitz are just OP when it comes the 1vs1 BB. The 1vs1 with CV and sub against surface class was for sure not a test of player's skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #78 Posted February 28 We all know 'skill' is a dirty word with WG. They rather have luck and certain ships to have the advantage. Don't forget their goal is to make sure everyone has a chance to play every ship and every mode and have a feeling of succes afterwards. Trivial things like skill and experience get in the way of that. Play ranked without the need to win and despite WG's best efforts you will have a fun round a couple of times. (at least there isn't a flyboy in every 3rd game or so) Just don't make the common mistake to do your best, it's rather useless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EZKIL] Sir_Sinksalot Players 1,510 posts 8,243 battles Report post #79 Posted March 1 21 hours ago, MarChil said: Just don't make the common mistake to do your best, it's rather useless. Ya, work your backside off and still lose a very one-sided rofl stomp featuring teammates that were either AFK or utterly hopeless. "But you finished top of the losing team so didn't lose a star! What's the problem you lazy bum?" Ya epic. Especially 4-5 times in a row and literally made no progress in ranked for that entire session and probably and hour of gameplay. You sat down, clicked battle, played for an hour and literally gained nothing other than the delightful experience of witnessing the human gene pool regressing around you. In fact you probably lost a start in the last battle of that session after finally getting triggered by a run of such auto-lose teams and played red-mist mode which is never a good idea. Much fun and progress were had. Well, come back tomorrow sir and do it all over again but maybe you get 4-5 wins a row for picking your nose instead because that's always possible too. Either way, you don't get rewarded for playing well amidst a team of hopeless sea cucumbers that lose, nor punished for playing worse than a bot when on the winning team, all of which eventually makes "Just spam battles with the fastest ship you can, yolo at the enemy, get in a few token shots, get killed, rinse and repeat and through sheer volume of quantity over quality you'll eventually get the required wins for the loot" a very attractive proposition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,256 battles Report post #80 Posted March 1 6 minutes ago, Sir_Sinksalot said: "Just spam battles with the fastest ship you can, yolo at the enemy, get in a few token shots, get killed, rinse and repeat and through sheer volume of quantity over quality you'll eventually get the required wins for the loot" a very attractive proposition. I read somewhere (waterline of future development?) players no longer have to wait for the battle to finish to play the same ship again if that player died early in the game. WG probably want potatoes to grind to T10 even quicker than they do now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Porpoise Players 653 posts 775 battles Report post #81 Posted March 1 I like rankeds, because it is much easier for me to carry the team.... if there is something you can actually carry. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #82 Posted March 1 17 minutes ago, Porpoise said: I like rankeds, because it is much easier for me to carry the team If that is what makes you tick, be my guest. But as long as WG's utter stupidity prevents any gamemode from testing skill, don't feel to bad about losing. Losing teams are build in by design, as WG lacks the vision, competence and skills to make it any other way. It's like the CM's message every stream: Just have fun sailing around and shooting, teamplay is just a side effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #83 Posted March 1 28 minutes ago, MarChil said: Losing teams are build in by design, as WG lacks the vision, competence and skills to make it any other way. So there should be people with 100% WR? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KhorneFlake Beta Tester 340 posts 6,802 battles Report post #84 Posted March 1 39 minutes ago, MarChil said: If that is what makes you tick, be my guest. But as long as WG's utter stupidity prevents any gamemode from testing skill, don't feel to bad about losing. Losing teams are build in by design, as WG lacks the vision, competence and skills to make it any other way. It's like the CM's message every stream: Just have fun sailing around and shooting, teamplay is just a side effect. Wow, what nonsense. There is as much skill needed as in any other teamgame, it's easy as that. But I guess you're a pro Dota or LoL player where balancing is no issue at all and all players are super unicums... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #85 Posted March 1 16 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: So there should be people with 100% WR? You either can't read or are desperate to troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #86 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, KhorneFlake said: Wow, what nonsense. There is as much skill needed as in any other teamgame, it's easy as that. But I guess you're a pro Dota or LoL player where balancing is no issue at all and all players are super unicums... It's WG themselfses that states this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #87 Posted March 1 20 minutes ago, MarChil said: You either can't read or are desperate to troll. So you are claiming that the MM is making deliberately games which are losses? Wouldnt it make more sense to screw with RNG to achieve this? In a 6v6 (or whatever team-size) random composition its impossible to always win. Id say somewhere around 80% is the maximum which is winnable. Maybe super unicum CVs could win more, no idea. In 1v1, 100% WR is possible with the most OP ships for the best players. And even then they cant face each other (which is unlikely anyway) because then 1 would lose. The more people you add, the lower the maximum achievable WR will drop. Solo randoms its like 65-70% depending on the ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #88 Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: So you are claiming that the MM is making deliberately games which are losses? And where do you think I claim this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #89 Posted March 1 Oh the weekly ranked is bad topic is as healthy as ever 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #90 Posted March 2 14 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said: Oh the weekly ranked is bad topic is as healthy as ever thoroughly reflexs the quality WG is offering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #91 Posted March 2 20 minutes ago, MarChil said: thoroughly reflexs the quality WG is offering. well this is a game, not a job ... if you are not having fun feel free to play something else ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #92 Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: well this is a game, not a job ... if you are not having fun feel free to play something else ... lame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #93 Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, MarChil said: lame yeah sure ... you could start by defining how you would measure skill from existing stats ... I am genuinely curious ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #94 Posted March 2 8 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: yeah sure ... you could start by defining how you would measure skill from existing stats ... I am genuinely curious ... Why should I want to do that? You are convinced that is what is needed? Because I can tell you it's not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EZKIL] Sir_Sinksalot Players 1,510 posts 8,243 battles Report post #95 Posted March 2 18 hours ago, SurfaceFish said: WG probably want potatoes to grind to T10 even quicker than they do now. Rise of the potato! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #96 Posted March 2 15 hours ago, MarChil said: And where do you think I claim this? 17 hours ago, MarChil said: Losing teams are build in by design 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #97 Posted March 2 Comprehensive reading isn't a strong point I see. Contrary to your assumtions, you are wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #98 Posted March 2 32 minutes ago, MarChil said: Comprehensive reading isn't a strong point I see. Contrary to your assumtions, you are wrong I can see that arguing is not your strong point. When you write something dumb, atleast try to back it up with something, instead you follow up with more stupidity. At first i was interested what you actually meant, now i know its just stupid crap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #99 Posted March 2 Just now, DFens_666 said: I can see that arguing is not your strong point. When you write something dumb, atleast try to back it up with something, instead you follow up with more stupidity. At first i was interested what you actually meant, now i know its just stupid crap. Stawmanning and assumptions are not a way to show interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #100 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, MarChil said: Why should I want to do that? You are convinced that is what is needed? Because I can tell you it's not. well you are the one advocating for some skill based MM or did I misunderstand ? so I'd like to know how that should look like ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
