Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #26 Posted February 23 Because for some twisted reasons ranked system allows people with negative winrate to climb up all the way up to gold league and even claim R1. All you have to do is spam games, like play 50 games a day and you'll be in gold league even if you're a mouthbreathing ape. When the new sprint started I played 3 games, lost two, and I had the biggest amount of exp earned in each. Top 1 exp. As a CV. In gold league. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Seraphice WG Staff 1,664 posts 7,808 battles Report post #27 Posted February 23 On 2/22/2023 at 7:53 AM, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Radar trap and murder the DD, that's basically the first step to victory. Since you only have three BBs, they are still at the spawn at the first engagement and can't crossfire you, assuming a well balanced setup of DD, 2CA, 3BB ( @Seraphice you should increase the reload and/or dispersion by 25% for BBs in ranked, then we wouldn't have so many - they're a scourge. Or mabye simply deactivate the overmatch mechanic) For game influence, BBs are not usually the best choice - DDs usually have far greater impact on the match. Just because they are more popular doesn't mean they are better or need any nerfing, especially because this would only be relevant to one mode. Additionally in randoms, having 5-6 battleships out of twelve is also about 50% of the team, but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. Fair seas! 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #28 Posted February 23 On 2/21/2023 at 9:24 PM, NicramDuel said: One thing that you might wish to try is to avoid the peak period of 16:00-21:00, and the "daytime" hours of weekends in general - if you would like to reduce the chances to witness an outstandingly retarded performer on your group. Of course it can happen during all hours of the mode being open. In my experience however, in both ranked and operations, during non-peaktimes, you tend to get more of those players who are up late or early to get something done. You have less of those who just log in, press some buttons, don't give a damn, and perhaps don't even realize how much they hinder other's experience. This. Applies to randoms as well. Late night or morning you have nicest games usually or at least higher chance for those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #29 Posted February 23 I would like to know who came up with the idea of tier VI for ranked. Literally the most panful tier you could have chosen. As a cruiser main its enough to want you to give up...AGAIN!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #30 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Seraphice said: Additionally in randoms, having 5-6 battleships out of twelve is also about 50% of the team, but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. I do. All the time. And having one class overly represented always is a the cost of their primary target. Imagine 6 Asashios in a game with one or two bbs... the tears would drown the forums. Just look what WG did when their pet class was threatened by an actual class capable of hunting them? Laser guided nuclear tipped airstrikes! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #31 Posted February 23 Vor 2 Stunden, Seraphice sagte: For game influence, BBs are not usually the best choice - DDs usually have far greater impact on the match. Behold my teammates in my only (for reasons!) Ranked Battle today. Go and tell me that their choice of ship class would have changed their impact on the match in any positive way (for my team, of course). 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,744 battles Report post #32 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Seraphice said: Additionally in randoms, having 5-6 battleships out of twelve is also about 50% of the team, but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. Wait, what? Have you never spoken to or listened to any cruiser main or just somebody who occasionally enjoys playing cruisers? 5 BB in every random battle is just aweful. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #33 Posted February 23 Is a crap show because 99% of the playerbase are subnormals!!!! SUBNORMAL 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #34 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Ubertron_X said: Wait, what? Have you never spoken to or listened to any cruiser main or just somebody who occasionally enjoys playing cruisers? 5 BB in every random battle is just aweful. I dont know if you can call me a cruiser main, but i have most games in cruisers. And i prefer the games where there are alot of BBs. Maybe thats just me though, but i think BBs should be the core of the game, too many light units creates a unfun mess (atleast for me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #35 Posted February 24 16 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said: I would like to know who came up with the idea of tier VI for ranked. Literally the most panful tier you could have chosen. As a cruiser main its enough to want you to give up...AGAIN!! I was also a Cruiser main, but in ranked i rather play BB or DD. Thats where usually the most stupid players are, and they will make you lose. And a Cruiser cant compensate that. I guess if it has to be a Cruiser id go with Perth/GS/Leander. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Seraphice WG Staff 1,664 posts 7,808 battles Report post #36 Posted February 24 15 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Behold my teammates in my only (for reasons!) Ranked Battle today. Go and tell me that their choice of ship class would have changed their impact on the match in any positive way (for my team, of course). Of course, a large difference in player skill is many times more important than ship type, but the matchmaking accounts only for the league you play in, not for your winrate. 15 hours ago, Ubertron_X said: Wait, what? Have you never spoken to or listened to any cruiser main or just somebody who occasionally enjoys playing cruisers? 5 BB in every random battle is just aweful. As someone who plays plenty of cruisers, I think its fine, and to be fair, no I don't hear this sentiment often. Fair seas captain! ~Sera 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #37 Posted February 24 19 hours ago, Seraphice said: Additionally in randoms, having 5-6 battleships out of twelve is also about 50% of the team, but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. We gave up to complain about it long before you joined, because WG didn't listen (while stating themselves that there are too many BBs). So yes, we still need less BBs in random battles. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #38 Posted February 24 8 hours ago, DFens_666 said: I was also a Cruiser main, but in ranked i rather play BB or DD. Thats where usually the most stupid players are, and they will make you lose. And a Cruiser cant compensate that. I guess if it has to be a Cruiser id go with Perth/GS/Leander. Totally agree. Funny enough dusted off the Leander (Rnl Line still very fun to play) and thanks to the smoke proceeded to save 3 stars in a row. still fustrating game play though as plagued by unnecessary losses. Was forced to try the P E Fredrich for a while and had some success too, but just....cant do too many Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #39 Posted February 24 On 2/23/2023 at 3:27 PM, Seraphice said: Additionally in randoms, having 5-6 battleships out of twelve is also about 50% of the team, but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. We need less Battleships in Random Battles. with only 6 players it genuinely feels very caliber (BB) dominant. Especially at tier 6. Imo anyway.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #40 Posted February 24 On 2/23/2023 at 5:32 PM, SeaWolf7 said: I would like to know who came up with the idea of tier VI for ranked. Literally the most panful tier you could have chosen. As a cruiser main its enough to want you to give up...AGAIN!! This is the same complaint every ranked season/league no matter the tier below 10 ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #41 Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Hugh_Ruka said: This is the same complaint every ranked season/league no matter the tier below 10 ... To be honest, tier 7 was a shitshow because of certain ships that bring a gun to a knife fight, tier 8 at least brings all the basic counters more or less equally - not counting that russian abomination BB with radar and other balans brainfarts. But the brainfarts are much worse on T7. But tier 6 and below? Come on.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #42 Posted February 25 On 2/22/2023 at 4:21 AM, GarrusBrutus said: Ranked is just randoms with fewer ships. Change my mind. *with low tier peasants who die like flies 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #43 Posted February 25 14 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said: Was forced to try the P E Fredrich for a while and had some success too, but just....cant do too many Are you playing it secondary specced? I like PEF, but with the small caliber guns you struggle against BBs. The Sec helps with that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #44 Posted February 25 5 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Are you playing it secondary specced? I like PEF, but with the small caliber guns you struggle against BBs. The Sec helps with that Some players sure profit from not having to manually aim their guns.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CTO] CTO_KPAKEHOB Players 95 posts Report post #45 Posted February 25 On 2/24/2023 at 12:44 PM, Seraphice said: Of course, a large difference in player skill is many times more important than ship type, but the matchmaking accounts only for the league you play in, not for your winrate. Well maybe there's time to introduce some skill based entry criteria for Ranked Battles? I mean, like having a 50% or more win rate for the ship a player wants to play in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,256 battles Report post #46 Posted February 25 38 minutes ago, CTO_KPAKEHOB said: Well maybe there's time to introduce some skill based entry criteria for Ranked Battles? I mean, like having a 50% or more win rate for the ship a player wants to play in? How would that benefit WG's pocket? They want players to be able to play all mods, no matter their skill level. That's how they get new players to spend money. Make it more difficult for most players who are bad at this game does the opposite to WG's financial benefits. WG is planning to give more XP to spotting and secondary hits and reducing XP for doing damage and potential damage tanked. You know give more xp to red potatoes for doing nothing sailing blindly around the map and penalise those who knows how to play and staying alive by angling their ship and good positioning. This tells you how badly the majority of the players are performing. There are not enough players with +50% WR to fill many teams for all the hours when Ranked is active. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #47 Posted February 25 On 2/23/2023 at 3:27 PM, Seraphice said: but I have yet to hear anyone say that we need less battleships in random battles. That's kinda selective deafness there. It is a recurring theme on the forum. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #48 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Some players sure profit from not having to manually aim their guns.... True ofc But the WW1 350mm guns on the PEF struggle against BBs, atleast when they are angled. PEF is best against Cruisers, and decent against DDs thx to the accuracy. And Cruisers in ranked are... rare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LMER] vaapad_master Alpha Tester 249 posts 5,978 battles Report post #49 Posted February 25 On 2/21/2023 at 11:51 PM, GarrusBrutus said: Ranked is just randoms with fewer ships. Change my mind. Hmm I don't agree entirely. There are no unicum tryhard divs in the ranked to stomp the other team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CTO] CTO_KPAKEHOB Players 95 posts Report post #50 Posted February 25 2 hours ago, vaapad_master said: Hmm I don't agree entirely. There are no unicum tryhard divs in the ranked to stomp the other team. Instead, there are unicum tryhard CV players to stomp the other team :) 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
