Scuttle ship/Abandon ship

[plain_average]

Hi,

 

I think it would be nice if there were an option to scuttle your ship, i.e. if you are the last person alive on a team, you should be allowed to just abandon ship.

 

I just had a game where a sub was all that was left on the other team and we had to spend 3-4 minutes just waiting for the timer to tick out, since he clearly did not want to be killed and its bordeline impossible to find a sub tht do not want to be found.

 

I would have been happy with him just "abandoning" the ship and game could have ended immediately - even though we might have lost a tiny bit of XP not waiting.

 

I know that in most situations I would just abandon ship if I was the single player against 4-5 others (depending on the situation obviously)

 

And it was quite normal to scuttle your ship in ww2 if if was either too badly damanged or to prevent it from falling in enemy hands.

 

Alternative could be to suggest surrender to the enemy team and they could vote whether or not they would accept the surrender - or spend time chasing down a last ship.

[MixuS]

 

Besides, what makes you think that people who waste everybody's time by hiding when they are last one alive, would suddenly scuttle their ships? They can already outsource the scuttling to the enemy team.

[WarburtonLee]

No i do not agree, there is already the problem in the game, where you are about to claim the prize of some good dmg, and the game ends on points.

[plain_average]

3 minutes ago, MixuS said:

 

Besides, what makes you think that people who waste everybody's time by hiding when they are last one alive, would suddenly scuttle their ships? They can already outsource the scuttling to the enemy team.

Well - I know many would not do it - but some would - just to get it over with - it can also be that 4-5 ships (BB's) are in A1 and the last enemy ship are in The opposite corner - and if it would take 4 minutes just to be able to see each other,  everyone would win if the game could just end there, since those 5 minutes could be used on a different game.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

This topic again huh

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, plain_average said:

Hi,

 

I think it would be nice if there were an option to scuttle your ship, i.e. if you are the last person alive on a team, you should be allowed to just abandon ship.

 

I just had a game where a sub was all that was left on the other team and we had to spend 3-4 minutes just waiting for the timer to tick out, since he clearly did not want to be killed and its bordeline impossible to find a sub tht do not want to be found.

 

I would have been happy with him just "abandoning" the ship and game could have ended immediately - even though we might have lost a tiny bit of XP not waiting.

 

I know that in most situations I would just abandon ship if I was the single player against 4-5 others (depending on the situation obviously)

 

And it was quite normal to scuttle your ship in ww2 if if was either too badly damanged or to prevent it from falling in enemy hands.

 

Alternative could be to suggest surrender to the enemy team and they could vote whether or not they would accept the surrender - or spend time chasing down a last ship.

The option would not have helped as he clearly was not ready to give up...

 

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[plain_average]

3 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

No i do not agree, there is already the problem in the game, where you are about to claim the prize of some good dmg, and the game ends on points.

I know its always nice to rip the last ship apart, but this is for the situations where you know you cannot get the other ship and you just have to wait.

 

It could also be that you were not allowed to scuttle your ship if you were spotted a minute ago or less.

 

That would prevent people from just ducking behind an island and scuttle their ship.

[plain_average]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

The option would not have helped as he clearly was not ready to give up...

 

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Thanks - I am surprised that so many people are against this - I would expect being able to get into the next battle quick would be optimal - in particular for those that do not have 10 hours to play every day.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, plain_average said:

Thanks - I am surprised that so many people are against this - I would expect being able to get into the next battle quick would be optimal - in particular for those that do not have 10 hours to play every day.

People can already do that...

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Perhaps this could work if the last ship was a CV?

[plain_average]

They could even give the XP of the last ship shared amongst the remaining people on the other team - and obviously your repair bill would be the same as if it was destroyed, which scuttling does.

 

Then if people are against it, it has nothing to with XP/Credits - but simply that they refuse to let the game end quicker because they enjoy tormenting the last player. (Or wasting everyones time)

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, plain_average said:

They could even give the XP of the last ship shared amongst the remaining people on the other team - and obviously your repair bill would be the same as if it was destroyed, which scuttling does.

 

Then if people are against it, it has nothing to with XP/Credits - but simply that they refuse to let the game end quicker because they enjoy tormenting the last player. (Or wasting everyones time)

The last player is free to sail into the enemies and show broadside, if he wanted that.

If he does not, he did not want that. There is no torment of the last player...

[JohnMac79]

How many times do we have to say no?

[WarburtonLee]

20 minutes ago, plain_average said:

I know its always nice to rip the last ship apart, but this is for the situations where you know you cannot get the other ship and you just have to wait.

 

It could also be that you were not allowed to scuttle your ship if you were spotted a minute ago or less.

 

That would prevent people from just ducking behind an island and scuttle their ship.

Many people will just use this to troll aswell, im sure. Like scuttling if you dont like MM and such

[plain_average]

29 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said:

How many times do we have to say no?

Until WG makes it an option I guess :-)

 

Just because you don't want the option, does not mean it should not be implemented.

 

26 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

Many people will just use this to troll aswell, im sure. Like scuttling if you dont like MM and such

Its not trolling if you are the last person alive on your team - obviously it should not be possible from the start of the game.

 

33 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

The last player is free to sail into the enemies and show broadside, if he wanted that.

There is the humiliation - scuttling is a different way of suiciding.

 

[JohnMac79]

2 minutes ago, plain_average said:

Just because you don't want the option, does not mean it should not be implemented.

Its a dumb idea. Just stop. If you are the last person on the team you can stop running into the corner of the map and simply charge in a die. There is zero need for what you advocate. You do know the solo warrior award exists right?

[lafeel]

Absolutely terrible idea. Why? Because people *will* abuse it. 

 

And thankfully WG has enough sense to have refused this suggestion in the past.

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, plain_average said:

There is the humiliation - scuttling is a different way of suiciding.

 

Where is the humilation if it is ones choice? Where is the difference to giving up?

[Animalul2012]

Add a "Kick" option as well. They should make ranked simillar to cs go competitive land scape. Kick and player, receive a bot, enemies are leading 10 to 0? Better surrender!!

You can kill you allies, finally! Receive 7 days ban from ranked. VOICE CHAT... 

 

[plain_average]

15 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said:

Its a dumb idea. Just stop. If you are the last person on the team you can stop running into the corner of the map and simply charge in a die. There is zero need for what you advocate. You do know the solo warrior award exists right?

How about being constructive?

 

I see the need, other people see the need - just because you dont does not mean there are 0 need for it. Please stop with this "holier than thou" BS.

 

And yes - I know the solo warrior award exist and people are free to pursue that pipe dream, but please give me an option to leave the game without being flagged and does not involve me having to get shot at.

 

[plain_average]

16 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Absolutely terrible idea. Why? Because people *will* abuse it. 

 

And thankfully WG has enough sense to have refused this suggestion in the past.

Explain how a single player can abuse something?

 

I dont want multiple people to be able to "give up" - its only when you are alone.

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, plain_average said:

Explain how a single player can abuse something?

Imagine a lone ship on a winning team vs 3 ships on the losing team.

Time runs out, even suiciding will not lose the match as there is not enough time, but the there is scuttle option --> trolling the other 11 players on the team.

[JohnMac79]

7 minutes ago, plain_average said:

How about being constructive?

What is there to be constructive about? Its a terrible idea, in what way would you like me to convey this?

 

7 minutes ago, plain_average said:

but please give me an option to leave the game without being flagged and does not involve me having to get shot at.

Why on earth are you bothered about being shot at in a naval warfare game? You sound like part of the problem that has pushed this game to the mess we see today...

 

7 minutes ago, plain_average said:

I know the solo warrior award exist and people are free to pursue that pipe dream...

 

Pipe dream?

[lafeel]

12 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Imagine a lone ship on a winning team vs 3 ships on the losing team.

Time runs out, even suiciding will not lose the match as there is not enough time, but the there is scuttle option --> trolling the other 11 players on the team.

Or if he sees something he doesn't like at the start of the game and scuttles immediately.

[plain_average]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Imagine a lone ship on a winning team vs 3 ships on the losing team.

Time runs out, even suiciding will not lose the match as there is not enough time, but the there is scuttle option --> trolling the other 11 players on the team.

Well, they can just prevent this, so if you are winning, "no can do" - but I see your point