Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #1 Posted February 17 so I tried the russian cv and their skipping bombs.... fact...the bomb never rises more than about 5 metres then how come on more than one occasion I see the bombs fly OVER the dd's on second or third "skip" did they suddenly make dd that is only 4 meter tall? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #2 Posted February 17 its for balancing so you have to be more accurate with your strikes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #3 Posted February 17 Vor 5 Minuten, Spearhawk1969 sagte: did they suddenly make dd that is only 4 meter tall? Questioning realism while using a "Russian CV"... 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #4 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Questioning realism while using a "Russian CV"... thats so true, its like flying a kite in space, makes about as much sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #5 Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: thats so true, its like flying a kite in space, makes about as much sense ... as are skipping bombs on the open ocean. Aren't there lines, on the aiming reticule, showing where the bombs skip on the water's surface though? Line them up with the hull of the ship so the bombs hit the ship at their lowest point in their trajectory. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #6 Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: ... as is skipping bombs on the open ocean. Aren't there lines, on the aiming reticule, showing where the bombs skip on the water's surface though? Line them up with the hull of the ship so the bombs hit the ship at their lowest point in their trajectory. until today, I would say skipping bombs was a fake idea, but I googled it, and it is there.... why would anyone ever come up with an idea like that, its not like the ocean is going to be level or plain and you can skip bombs that weight **** kg on the surface. I would say the waves and difference in height etc due to waves would make it very difficult to hit something but as they say in the wikipedia, the skipping was ment to be so close, and so fast that it would be almost french kissing the sailors in the other ship. also the aircrafts was suppose to be so fast they could avoid AA, anyone at WG tried flying the aircrafts in a Sarov(or whatever its name is) I could get out and run past them. but I guess its all just for laughs and giggles, and it make me giggle to see the DD not once, not twice but 3 times get overflown by skipping bombs. whats next? flying torpedoes? guided by the gas from the engines , oh wait, thats Star Trek..... oh yeah and the reticule is a "guide" then add rng and other stuff then the bombs does not really skip where the lines was so its basically a guessing game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #7 Posted February 17 9 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: whats next? flying torpedoes? guided by the gas from the engines , oh wait, thats Star Trek..... Well, at least stun bombs (on the WIP Support CVs) were dropped ... for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #8 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Well, at least stun bombs (on the WIP Support CVs) were dropped ... for now. WUT? Stun bombs, seriously? who in WG thought it would be...hmmm...well... you COULD have used a EMP, but was that even discovered then? and would not an EMP travel across a LOT of water in effect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9 Posted February 17 33 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: so I tried the russian cv and their skipping bombs.... fact...the bomb never rises more than about 5 metres then how come on more than one occasion I see the bombs fly OVER the dd's on second or third "skip" did they suddenly make dd that is only 4 meter tall? And how exactly you've measured its 5 meters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #10 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: WUT? Stun bombs, seriously? who in WG thought it would be...hmmm...well... you COULD have used a EMP, but was that even discovered then? and would not an EMP travel across a LOT of water in effect? Yup, it was a proposal that was, well let's say ... "unpopular". It's not like DCP is now under-utilized or anything ... *ping* *ping* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #11 Posted February 17 Just now, Panocek said: And how exactly you've measured its 5 meters? that was according to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_bombing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #12 Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Spearhawk1969 said: that was according to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_bombing And since when "real life" or "logic" apply to this game? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #13 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Yup, it was a proposal that was, well let's say ... "unpopular". It's not like DCP is now under-utilized or anything ... *ping* *ping* according to wiki, EMP was discovered in the 1950's so, could come to game but that would make the game more Star Wars than anything, instead they should concentrate on maps and perhaps more AI (PvE) games thats challenging, I could see historical battles upcoming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #14 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, Panocek said: And since when "real life" or "logic" apply to this game? never, and I hope it never does ;) except the concept of the game was to make it as authentic as possible.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #15 Posted February 17 26 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: until today, I would say skipping bombs was a fake idea, but I googled it, and it is there.... whats next? flying torpedoes? guided by the gas from the engines , oh wait, thats Star Trek..... oh yeah and the reticule is a "guide" then add rng and other stuff then the bombs does not really skip where the lines was so its basically a guessing game. so you saw it is legit and "modern" weapon in WW2...and you still laught at it as stoopid idea? joke is on you my friend. why skipping bombs? they are cheeper than torpedos obviously and ship had much less chance to activly avoid them..also you could do skip bomb run in full speed while you could not do that with torpedos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #16 Posted February 17 1 minute ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: so you saw it is legit and "modern" weapon in WW2...and you still laught at it as stoopid idea? joke is on you my friend. why skipping bombs? they are cheeper than torpedos obviously and ship had much less chance to activly avoid them..also you could do skip bomb run in full speed while you could not do that with torpedos. I am alright with joke being on me, I can laugh at me and with me as well. the fun part, imagine being a guy on the deck of that DD seeing a bomb skipping above you I wonder what would go through that guys head.... Oh look a shiny bomb across the skies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #17 Posted February 17 Just now, Spearhawk1969 said: I am alright with joke being on me, I can laugh at me and with me as well. the fun part, imagine being a guy on the deck of that DD seeing a bomb skipping above you I wonder what would go through that guys head.... Oh look a shiny bomb across the skies. in RL, it would hit him in head...cause 4-5 meters were maximum altitude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #18 Posted February 17 22 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: until today, I would say skipping bombs was a fake idea, but I googled it, and it is there.... why would anyone ever come up with an idea like that, its not like the ocean is going to be level or plain and you can skip bombs that weight **** kg on the surface. I would say the waves and difference in height etc due to waves would make it very difficult to hit something but as they say in the wikipedia, the skipping was ment to be so close, and so fast that it would be almost french kissing the sailors in the other ship. Well, there is this *reasonably* famous example. Specially designed bomb, backwards rotation, range of about 800m. Poor old HMS Malaya being used as a test subject at the end of this video... Standard skip bombing was much shorter range and quite dangerous. Some newsreel footage of US pilot learning the technique shows what happens if not delivered precisely. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #19 Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: the fun part, imagine being a guy on the deck of that DD seeing a bomb skipping above you I wonder what would go through that guys head.... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #20 Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: never, and I hope it never does ;) except the concept of the game was to make it as authentic as possible.... Not even that. Game had some "realistic" aspirations in alpha times, then went with "historically flavored when its convenient". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #21 Posted February 17 Once WG realized that the glorious navy of the motherland had stopped commissioning domestically built battleships as early as during World War 1 and completely skipped aircraft carriers, the concept of "historical ships" was quietly binned. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Spearhawk1969 said: until today, I would say skipping bombs was a fake idea, but I googled it, and it is there.... why would anyone ever come up with an idea like that, its not like the ocean is going to be level or plain and you can skip bombs that weight **** kg on the surface. I am sure the wiki article has a history section to read... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO] SmokinSerj Players 459 posts 10,365 battles Report post #23 Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: why would anyone ever come up with an idea like that, its not like the ocean is going to be level or plain and you can skip As far as I know, they were not invented for being used on the ocean, but on the dams, where the water is rather calm. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BIF] K82J Players 827 posts 10,200 battles Report post #24 Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: whats next? flying torpedoes? guided by the gas from the engines , oh wait, thats Star Trek..... Henschel Hs 294 Quote The Hs 294 was a further development of the Henschel Hs 293, but was of an elongated, more streamlined shape. When launched from an aircraft, it was guided to its target with the same Kehl-Straßburg remote control system as both the Hs 293 and unpowered Fritz X armored precision-guided munition systems used for their MCLOS guidance needs. Just before it reached its target, it was guided into the water whereupon its wings would break off and then it then would run like a torpedo, propelled by its remaining kinetic energy; it would explode below the waterline of the vessel. The proximity fuze was that of a regular German torpedo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #25 Posted February 17 8 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: until today, I would say skipping bombs was a fake idea, but I googled it, and it is there.... The British used skipping bombs in the dambuster raids on the three German dams. Looking at various bit of film on the development and testing of these bombs they had one variant that was tested using a Mosquito plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
