OMG ... I'm So Lucky!

[VeteranGamer84]

I consider myself to be so lucky that I started playing this game at 2015 before I run into this "Early Access" bullSh*t. When this game launched in the beginning you can easily get the full tech tree lines when it's ready. But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game. In the old days the old resource that you really cared about was the Free XP, But now inorder to get the ship you want you need to do countless of hours of grinding. Thank God I got most of the ships I wanted including "Puerto Rico". Now I really don't care about this game as I did before.

[Wulf_Ace]

18 minutes ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

But now inorder to get the ship you want you need to do countless of hours of grinding. 

What? in contrast to before now you need ultra less time to get new ships. With economic boosts you can research a new ship in just a few battles, even high tiers.

 

And judging by the amount of battles you have, you have no problems for grinding.

[NicramDuel]

Sadly, WG is not to blame for this. Our community is. True, they did come up with the concept, and slowly sniffed out what exactly our whales are willing to pay for, and just how many whales there are.

 

Perhaps they themselves didn't think at the time that people would be ready to dish out a 5-digit amount of doubloons in sequential bundles just to be able to buy the last ship, and the permacamos (actually some are very nice - but of course, you can't "just" buy them for the measly 5-8k doubloons they used to sell for - now you have to sequence them). Mogador, then Jinan (or just Sejong? not sure), All three Italian lines, and hell, I can't even tell what order the rest came in - these make profits similar to new prem ships. With thanks and love to our blubber-padded buddies. 

[NicramDuel]

18 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

What? in contrast to before now you need ultra less time to get new ships. With economic boosts you can research a new ship in just a few battles, even high tiers.

 

And judging by the amount of battles you have, you have no problems for grinding.

 

True.

 

My last reset on the Pan-asian cruisers consisted of approx. 50 games, only initially using some free exp, and only using blue boosters.

- approx. 60k free exp to T6

- T6 Rahmat: 5 runs in operations, even losing one of them.

Spoiler

 

-T7 Chumphon: 7 runs, lost 2 of them. 

Spoiler

 

T8 Harbin: 15 games, lost half of them due to the mistake of entering operations on a weekend. 

T9 Sejong: 20 games in Airship mode until I hit T10(random might have been faster, but I hate randoms).

 

It's 50 games with just blue, and not red eco-bonuses to get a T10 nowadays. Without any free exp to spend, it's about 10 extra games in a T1 or anything else to get up to T6 from free exp by using blue free exp boosters. Also, if someone wants to blow free exp on tiering up faster, it can be done in about half as many games.

 

...And if someone wants to go all the way and has red boosters, 10-15 games of using both xp and free xp are enough. There was nothing like this up until a few years ago. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

48 minutes ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

I consider myself to be so lucky that I started playing this game at 2015 before I run into this "Early Access" bullSh*t. When this game launched in the beginning you can easily get the full tech tree lines when it's ready. But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game. In the old days the old resource that you really cared about was the Free XP, But now inorder to get the ship you want you need to do countless of hours of grinding. Thank God I got most of the ships I wanted including "Puerto Rico". Now I really don't care about this game as I did before.

One does not need to.

Just wait till their are released. Then it is the same as 2015...

[SV_Kompresor]

Uh...no? In the "good old days" you potentially needed hundreds of battles to finish a grind. Now you only need a few dozen. The only things approaching that are some dockyards.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 7 Stunden, VeteranGamer84 sagte:

But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game.

It might be my subjective view, but nothing WG offers for money could improve my gaming experience, let alone make the game they have been utterly wrecking since 2019 "enjoyable". It is "bearable" at most, and even this only under optimal circumstances. There is no "need" to buy anything, not even an incentive.

[Varian_Dorn]

9 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

I consider myself to be so lucky that I started playing this game at 2015 before I run into this "Early Access" bullSh*t. When this game launched in the beginning you can easily get the full tech tree lines when it's ready. But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game. In the old days the old resource that you really cared about was the Free XP, But now inorder to get the ship you want you need to do countless of hours of grinding. Thank God I got most of the ships I wanted including "Puerto Rico". Now I really don't care about this game as I did before.

If you got the Puerto Rico, no matter if this was on the first or second time, you eagerly made use of this "bullSh*t" yourself.

 

And while I agree that WG is overdoing the early access events the basic concept how tech tree ships come into the game and are made available has not changed; there´s just an extra stage pasted in before their "regular" launch.

So you have a choice: participate in the event and get those ships as soon as possible OR wait until they are introduced into the tree fully and can be unlocked for free.

 

As for your diminished enthusiasm for the game... well, thats another choice of yours. My preferred games change over time too. The only difference here is I don´t make grand speeches about it, I just... start and stop playing as I like.

[Varian_Dorn]

2 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

It might be my subjective view, but nothing WG offers for money could improve my gaming experience, let alone make the game they have been utterly wrecking since 2019 "enjoyable". It is "bearable" at most, and even this only under optimal circumstances. There is no "need" to buy anything, not even an incentive.

While I don´t agree with the "wrecking" part I do respect your choice here. Although if I would consider something "bearable" at best I sure wouldn´t spend much time on that game and certainly not in its forum.

[tomkrist]

Holy respect for all of your battles:)

[VeteranGamer84]

4 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said:

If you got the Puerto Rico, no matter if this was on the first or second time, you eagerly made use of this "bullSh*t" yourself.

I didn't pay any real money to get the ship. I just kept playing ranked battles over & over again till I got the doubloons I needed to get the ship.

 

4 minutes ago, tomkrist said:

Holy respect for all of your battles:)

Thanks mate. I've never spent this amount of time on a single game before.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 34 Minuten, Varian_Dorn sagte:

Although if I would consider something "bearable" at best I sure wouldn´t spend much time on that game and certainly not in its forum.

In my case, spending more time in the forum than in the game is a direct result of the game going down the drain. Reading dumb stuff here is entertaining, while witnessing the same dumb stuff in the game is frustrating.

[Andrewbassg]

10 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

I consider myself to be so lucky

 

 

 

Couldn't help myself

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just to remind people that what we refer as 'grind' didn't feel like grinding in the old days. It felt like something different, something altogether strange. We called it playing the game.

[VenividiviciNL]

4 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

 

 

 

Couldn't help myself

 

 

The Baseline is the same with all S.A.W. productions.

 

Maybe we therefore won't give up with WoWs, thanks to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgTUtfb0Ok8

 

 

Perhaps there is some hope for the future with this game :)

 

 

[Varian_Dorn]

9 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

In my case, spending more time in the forum than in the game is a direct result of the game going down the drain. Reading dumb stuff here is entertaining, while witnessing the same dumb stuff in the game is frustrating.

When you put it that way I have to agree with you. Depends on my day-to-day mood which is at times more irritating though 

[159Hunter]

19 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

When this game launched in the beginning you can easily get the full tech tree lines when it's ready.

So what's changed? When a line is launched, you can also get all ships by grinding them. Just like it was in 2015

19 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game. 

So you are telling me that I cannot possible enjoy the game because I'm not buying stuff?

That's not how fun works.

 

 

[TheAlba2014]

I honestly don't mind WG trying to monetise their content, it's the way they do it at times that's seriously questionable.

[VeteranGamer84]

2 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

So what's changed? When a line is launched, you can also get all ships by grinding them. Just like it was in 2015

 

What's changed is that WG is using the hype for the new tech tree lines to grab your money or you will just need to wait for a stupid 2 months until the line is released.

 

2 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

So you are telling me that I cannot possible enjoy the game because I'm not buying stuff?

That's not how fun works.

Well, I'm not the one who is saying this, It's Wargaming. If you want to only hear your voice then this is something else but I'm stating facts.

[Igarigen]

Vor 22 Stunden, VeteranGamer84 sagte:

But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game.

No, you can play without anything of that.

[Verblonde]

34 minutes ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

or you will just need to wait for a stupid 2 months until the line is released.

I don't really mind this early access nonsense (sometimes, I buy into it, sometimes not - upcoming RN submarines being emphatically the latter); quite apart from anything else, it seems to reduce the usual 'new tree' spike in prevalence of the new ships dramatically, compared to the old release model.

 

I'm sure most of the old lags will recall the massive spikes in popularity that used to accompany trees, and how distorted MM could get as a result?

[159Hunter]

12 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

What's changed is that WG is using the hype for the new tech tree lines to grab your money or you will just need to wait for a stupid 2 months until the line is released.

 

Well, I'm not the one who is saying this, It's Wargaming. If you want to only hear your voice then this is something else but I'm stating facts.

Ok, so let me get this straight: some company is telling you that you need to spend money on their products or you won't have fun, is classified as a fact for you.

But when a player who doesn't spend money on such products tells you he also has fun it is not a fact?

 

You madam/sir are the perfect example of what's wrong with our modern Western society: must have it noaw noaw noaw.

Once you can get past that, life gets easier. A lot easier. 

[KhorneFlake]

15 hours ago, VeteranGamer84 said:

What's changed is that WG is using the hype for the new tech tree lines to grab your money or you will just need to wait for a stupid 2 months until the line is released.

 

Well, I'm not the one who is saying this, It's Wargaming. If you want to only hear your voice then this is something else but I'm stating facts.

So again, what changed? You had to wait for tech tree release in the old days, too.

It's not like they announced a new line and released it online one day later...

 

You can speed Up things now with Money, yes, but no one is forced to do so and it wont change the fact you always had to wait for a new branch to be released.

 

Telling people here you had immediate access to new ships back then is just a blatant lie

 

[togMOR]

Vor 19 Stunden, VeteranGamer84 sagte:

What's changed is that WG is using the hype for the new tech tree lines to grab your money or you will just need to wait for a stupid 2 months until the line is released.

In all honesty, that sounds a bit like a self-control issue on your part.

Of course WG is dangling with the Early Access carrot in front of our noses.

Simply don´t fall for it ...

[TheNubination]

On 2/16/2023 at 10:55 PM, VeteranGamer84 said:

I consider myself to be so lucky that I started playing this game at 2015 before I run into this "Early Access" bullSh*t. When this game launched in the beginning you can easily get the full tech tree lines when it's ready. But now you need to buy for "Early Access" & this stupid "Premium Pass" events to really enjoy the game. In the old days the old resource that you really cared about was the Free XP, But now inorder to get the ship you want you need to do countless of hours of grinding. Thank God I got most of the ships I wanted including "Puerto Rico". Now I really don't care about this game as I did before.

 

 

Game was a campy grindfest free-mium win game like WoT. Would never have played it back then, the upgrades were freemium, the game incentivized camping through the repair system, everyone sat behind island spamming fires with no gimmicks to push them out except the occassional shima torp who took 5 minutes to flank around the map (hurray, big play shima, I know, you cant do that now with carriers, big bummer :( ) 

 

Early access is a much better way to fund the game and if youve played since 2015 you have enough ships to keep you busy, christ. 


No, game is far better now.