How much more damage and kills I need to win more?

[vaapad_master]

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

[ThePurpleSmurf]

Well, you figured out how to farm damage. Now find out how to have battle impact.

[KillStealBoss]

By focusing on the right targets. Though sometimes your team just dies out and you can't cope with that. 

[ColonelPete]

7 hours ago, vaapad_master said:

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

You need the right damage and right kills.

Farming damage from the map border and snacking some enemy ships after the match is decided does not win matches.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Exceptional, but still within statistical variance.

[hellhound666]

like i use to say to my friend when he was not satisfied with the loss after an insane amount of kills/dmg - wrong place, wrong time ...

mostly it was unjustified though, he was exceptionally good ...

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

8 hours ago, vaapad_master said:

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

Nice damage farming, quite impressive.

 

Are you just sniping damage without tanking for your team? If so, you won't be able to improve your winrates, ever. Only ships(*)/BB's that put themselves in harms way will usually make a difference in map control, which is the essence of winning matches.

(*) with the exception of carriers ofcoarse because why the f not.

 

In your case: use BB's that will help your team by tanking damage. Drawing aggro and smart tanking is as important as applying damage and killing priority targets.

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 13 Stunden, vaapad_master sagte:

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

You do not need either damage nor kills to win.

Last Ranked sprint while playing in the Gold qualification (this means T10 with a few T9 mixed in), I experienced several games that were won or lost with only 1 or 2 ship out of 12 sunk (it's currently a 6 vs. 6 setting). These games were decided by capping and map control alone, without much actual damage.

 

Regards, Nightowl

[KhorneFlake]

16 hours ago, vaapad_master said:

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

You need to play better.

All you do is DMG Farming, probably at max range.

You're a burden to any team

[SurfaceFish]

You need to pay tribute to the WG RNG God in the form of doubloons. Keep on buying the 50k bundle until your WR improves. It is guaranteed to work, after some indeterminate time. 

[Sunleader]

16 hours ago, vaapad_master said:

Do I need to do 200-300k damage and 4-5 kills on average every single battle in TX+ ships to win the battle?

 

If You wanted to Guarantee a Win with Damage and Kills You would need roundabout 800k Damage and 12 Kills.

But thats not really something anyone will manage.

 

 

Instead whats Relevant to Win is not Damage or Kills.

Its Influence on the Battle.

 

A Single Importand Enemy Ship Killed Early is worth more than Killing 5 Enemy Ships with no Relevance to the Battle later in the Game. 

 

 

If for Example You just Position Yourself on a Flank and Sit there Shooting at whatever comes your Way in a Battleship.

You will Generally at least have 1 or 2 Kills at the end of the Match and get a good amount of Damage.

But Your Influence is basicly non existent.

 

 

So to Win more. You need to Learn which Enemy Ships are Positioning themselves to Win for their Team. And then Kill these or Push them out of their Position.

At the same Time You need to Position yourself to Threaten the Enemy Team and Win for Yours.

 

 

 

[SurfaceFish]

No point telling OP how to play without replay been provided. As we don't know if the low WR is caused by poor position/target selection or unlucky MM run. 

 

P.S. its often in those lossing games you do the most damage if you are the last few ships left on the losing side, as you have rich targets to farm from. 

[tocqueville8]

35 minutes ago, KhorneFlake said:

You need to play better.

All you do is DMG Farming, probably at max range.

You're a burden to any team

 

9 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

You need the right damage and right kills.

Farming damage from the map border and snacking some enemy ships after the match is decided does not win matches.

 

15 hours ago, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Well, you figured out how to farm damage. Now find out how to have battle impact.

The OP is a 55% solo WR player at Tier 10, so I don't think he deserves these comments. He probably just had an unfortunate matchmaker for the last couple of dozen games, which can happen to anyone.

[ColonelPete]

20 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

 

The OP is a 55% solo WR player at Tier 10, so I don't think he deserves these comments. He probably just had an unfortunate matchmaker for the last couple of dozen games, which can happen to anyone.

It was just the answer to his question.

[Saltface]

9 hours ago, Europizza said:

Nice damage farming, quite impressive.

 

Are you just sniping damage without tanking for your team? If so, you won't be able to improve your winrates, ever. Only ships(*)/BB's that put themselves in harms way will usually make a difference in map control, which is the essence of winning matches.

What he said ! (applies to BB)

 

[vaapad_master]

1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

 

The OP is a 55% solo WR player at Tier 10, so I don't think he deserves these comments. He probably just had an unfortunate matchmaker for the last couple of dozen games, which can happen to anyone.

I just had a rage moment and probably shouldn't have even made this topic but all of those comments which they said are correct. Also yes, I should most likely just stopped playing after losing a couple of games in a row, but instead I continued and that affected my performance negatively.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said:

The OP is a 55% solo WR player at Tier 10, so I don't think he deserves these comments. He probably just had an unfortunate matchmaker for the last couple of dozen games, which can happen to anyone.

Well, if you look at his last 21 days, he played 115 battles. What is very obvious if you look a bit deeper is, that his average damage suddenly makes a 20%+ jump compared to his general average in the same ships he played during the last 21 days. At the same time where his damage skyrocket, his WR went down by a lot. Also, if you look at the high average damage in relation to the average kills, something seem to be off here as well. If you analyze this a bit, look at the bigger picture it is very clear what is going on - the op is farming for damage to push his PR instead to try to win games and push WR.

I never said he's a bad player, in fact he seem to play well above the average WoWs potato. He also strive to become better and improve, which again is more than the average fruit in WoWs tries to do. But I think he does it in the wrong way. If you look at other ships he played, e.g. DDs, he has significant lower average damage but a more solid WR, which means he has more battle impact. Taking all of this into account then yes, he absolutely deserved my previous comment.

[vaapad_master]

18 minutes ago, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Well, if you look at his last 21 days, he played 115 battles. What is very obvious if you look a bit deeper is, that his average damage suddenly makes a 20%+ jump compared to his general average in the same ships he played during the last 21 days. At the same time where his damage skyrocket, his WR went down by a lot. Also, if you look at the high average damage in relation to the average kills, something seem to be off here as well. If you analyze this a bit, look at the bigger picture it is very clear what is going on - the op is farming for damage to push his PR instead to try to win games and push WR.

I never said he's a bad player, in fact he seem to play well above the average WoWs potato. He also strive to become better and improve, which again is more than the average fruit in WoWs tries to do. But I think he does it in the wrong way. If you look at other ships he played, e.g. DDs, he has significant lower average damage but a more solid WR, which means he has more battle impact. Taking all of this into account then yes, he absolutely deserved my previous comment.

Yeah about that... I have to say that I didn't play for 90 days before playing wows recently so that probably also affected my recent performance. But still this doesn't explain my recent Stalingrad stats as I definitely played around the objectives and didn't PR farm.

[tocqueville8]

Just now, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Well, if you look at his last 21 days, he played 115 battles. What is very obvious if you look a bit deeper is, that his average damage suddenly makes a 20%+ jump compared to his general average in the same ships he played during the last 21 days. At the same time where his damage skyrocket, his WR went down by a lot. Also, if you look at the high average damage in relation to the average kills, something seem to be off here as well. If you analyze this a bit, look at the bigger picture it is very clear what is going on - the op is farming for damage to push his PR instead to try to win games and push WR.

I see lower WR than usual, higher damage but also higher tier. 132 kills over 115 games is 1.15 each, better than his average...

[Nov_A]

NOOOOOOO!!!

 

You cant just gain insight on your own errors and change your ways accordingly, you are supposed to get mad at anyone replying and blame everything and everyone else, except yourself!

[Ze_Reckless]

On 2/16/2023 at 8:19 PM, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Well, if you look at his last 21 days, he played 115 battles. What is very obvious if you look a bit deeper is, that his average damage suddenly makes a 20%+ jump compared to his general average in the same ships he played during the last 21 days.

Spoiler

 

At the same time where his damage skyrocket, his WR went down by a lot. Also, if you look at the high average damage in relation to the average kills, something seem to be off here as well. If you analyze this a bit, look at the bigger picture it is very clear what is going on - the op is farming for damage to push his PR instead to try to win games and push WR.

I never said he's a bad player, in fact he seem to play well above the average WoWs potato. He also strive to become better and improve, which again is more than the average fruit in WoWs tries to do. But I think he does it in the wrong way. If you look at other ships he played, e.g. DDs, he has significant lower average damage but a more solid WR, which means he has more battle impact. Taking all of this into account then yes, he absolutely deserved my previous comment.

 

 

 

Not necessarily, it could be an unlucky streak of terrible teammates which is very likely around patch day. With those you naturally lose more often, plus it is easier to do more damage because your teammates do very little and your enemy is more likely to throw their ship away to get a bit more damage before they win.

Maybe 115 isn't enough, check again after a couple hundred.

 

[vaapad_master]

BBs are such a fun class to play btw.