[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #26 Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: I totally agree, its a clusterfoook of epic proportions and apparent to everyone actually playing this game. Same goes for Arms race. Both these modes will force even good DD players to play a certain way that is stupid A-F, like going for buffs middle of the map at game start or sailing in a perfect visible to both teams circle and sailing along a perfect visible to both teams path in Airship escort, that they NEVER would have taken in a regular randoms game. So WG pretty much say to all DD players "Go in and suicide for buffs or airship speed or just hand the win over to the enemy team". Its not really hard for all the rest of the team to know where to pre-aim, torp, send planes .... and there is a dead DD. So, DDs suicide even faster than they do in regular randoms and it snowballs into even faster games then we already suffer from in T10. WG tries to "fix" the problem with 5 min steamroll matches by adjusting some score numbers for ship sunk, its like trying to fix Titanic by putting a band aid on it. But of course, bu forcing players to play these modes in random (that they never choosed btw) will force they to waste a lot of pricy eco buffs and flags on whet will result in shitty 5 min steamroll games where even winning team will have crappy damage and XP, which will make players have to buy more flags and buffs to waste in new games with same lame results. They could rename Arms race "DD suicide mode 1" and Airship escort "DD suicide mode 2", but I guess thats not as "catchy"..... These to modes could maybe work in randoms if WG at the same time introduced that shrinking gas cloud from PUBG so the BBs and cruisers also needs to suicide in for the buffs or circles as well instead of like what you see every game now, there are heading away from the directive and trying to sail out of the map while there DDs lose their life in the center. No more 10-line camping with full HP and 4 un-used heals. In the Airship games I have played as DD the majority are wins because I don't suicide.. I spot and I torp, it's not my job to escort the balloon.. I look at the map and consider where I should best be positioned and then near the end I find a spot to hold up the enemy Balloon whilst pushing mine forward. You still have to think a little, I am decided on my path once I see the map and opponent details. I don't suicide in Arms Race either... But I do need a switched on team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #27 Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: In the Airship games I have played as DD the majority are wins because I don't suicide.. I spot and I torp, it's not my job to escort the balloon.. I look at the map and consider where I should best be positioned and then near the end I find a spot to hold up the enemy Balloon whilst pushing mine forward. You still have to think a little, I am decided on my path once I see the map and opponent details. I don't suicide in Arms Race either... But I do need a switched on team. So, your airship isn't moving at all then? Or is it a ghostship escorting it, or do you find a BB player willing to risk all by doing that job. So your team dont get all the valuable buffs in the middle of them map then? Id say its hard to win in Arms race if you ignore the buffs and just play like a normal DD would. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #28 Posted February 16 32 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: So, your airship isn't moving at all then? Or is it a ghostship escorting it, or do you find a BB player willing to risk all by doing that job. So your team dont get all the valuable buffs in the middle of them map then? Id say its hard to win in Arms race if you ignore the buffs and just play like a normal DD would. 1) Where did I say that the allied Airship isn't moving? Where did I say I am not working for the team? 2) Where did I say I or my teams don't get the Buffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #29 Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said: 1) Where did I say that the allied Airship isn't moving? Where did I say I am not working for the team? 2) Where did I say I or my teams don't get the Buffs? Well, from your previous post I gathered that you're playing DD but you dont go in Airship circle or go for mid buffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] DiceTea Players 118 posts 35,161 battles Report post #30 Posted February 16 8 hours ago, JeanLouisII said: Haha hat da jemand angst mit seinen cvs mal in eine bubble zu fliegen? 🤣 No. Everybody flies into bubbles. And on topic: Just because one bad choice has been made, it does not mean another has to follow. I like this game. If your child makes a mistake, you stil want to stop it from making another. A mode with a pre-determined and pre-timed route is fun to play as a diversion. But (in my opinion) it does not fit into randoms, because it restricts choices in the battle, and reduces the usefulness of certain ships while enhancing the one of others dispropotionally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #31 Posted February 16 6 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said: I said in 2018 after the CV rework that this game was being dumbed down.. The Sub Faecal Show was proof of that and the removal of friendly fire made people careless in game because you don't have to think anymore when you fire torps or guns.. Even random operations against the Bots are messed up now. This game is now a shadow of its former self. It has been being dumbed down all the way back to the introduction of German BBs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #32 Posted February 16 6 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: I totally agree, its a clusterfoook of epic proportions and apparent to everyone actually playing this game. 1. You Say that about Literally any Change WG ever makes. 2. Love that Completely Unnecessary Hyperbole. 3. I am Playing the Game but dont See it. Would You mind not Pretending to be Speaking for Everyone ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #33 Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Sunleader said: 1. You Say that about Literally any Change WG ever makes. 2. Love that Completely Unnecessary Hyperbole. 3. I am Playing the Game but dont See it. Would You mind not Pretending to be Speaking for Everyone ? 1. Wonder why? Have you seen the forums? Im not alone. Maybe you that "silent mayority" WG keeps talking about?? And actually I quite LOVED the change when they allowed my to use my 21 point Legendary captain on every ship I play. Also since every change is to make us forced to spend money in a free to play game .... yeah I think I might be on to something. 2. Unnecessary? 3. Cool! So, you love to play games where you chose a ship because reasons and then just happen to land in some completely other type of game style where you just end up loosing credits, XP, flags, boosters. Idk about you but I would actually chose completely different ships for standard and random and Arms race and Airship, but if you dont then good on you mate. Im apparently not speaking for you but again ... see the thread and see the forum. 4. Lets agree to disagree. None of us will make the other see their point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #34 Posted February 16 21 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said: They should have kept epicentre, that Arms Race is just crapmode. Arms race IS Epicenter but on steroids. So instead of just playing for an epicenter ytou make DDs suicide at start for buffs and then one team receives majority of all buffs and then its ends in Epicenter. So WG just took a game mode that everyone hates (Epicenter) and then changed it so it would follow the formula of that other thing everyone hates (games ended quickly) ..... and we have ARMS RACE ... sheiit show 2.0 Enjoy! 19 hours ago, JohnMac79 said: They are going to put it into randoms because they are concerned about player numbers. Thats why they put Arms race in randoms. They are worried about their crappy matchmaking taking too long because people are queuing for different game modes. To all moderators - my thoughts and opinions are my own, i have no affiliation with WG nor any inside information. Please dont ban me for misinformation... Im just wondering why they even have different modes at all? Why not just cram everything into Randoms que? Ranked, operations, Coop! Easy fix and it seems some in this thread wouldn't have a problem with that. Just load your (insert ship name here) with flags and boosters and suddenly enjoy a 4 min Coop game.... Cool right? Why not?! Its a new and exciting thing, right? Silent majority and spreadsheets say so. 19 hours ago, Sunleader said: Players want to be entertained by new and exciting things. Is that YOU pretending to speak for Everyone.....? I didn't thing YOU would do such a thing..... 15 hours ago, JeanLouisII said: Haha hat da jemand angst mit seinen cvs mal in eine bubble zu fliegen? 🤣 Im probably just crap faced ...... it happens.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #35 Posted February 16 55 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: 1. Wonder why? Have you seen the forums? Im not alone. Maybe you that "silent mayority" WG keeps talking about?? And actually I quite LOVED the change when they allowed my to use my 21 point Legendary captain on every ship I play. Also since every change is to make us forced to spend money in a free to play game .... yeah I think I might be on to something. 2. Unnecessary? 3. Cool! So, you love to play games where you chose a ship because reasons and then just happen to land in some completely other type of game style where you just end up loosing credits, XP, flags, boosters. Idk about you but I would actually chose completely different ships for standard and random and Arms race and Airship, but if you dont then good on you mate. Im apparently not speaking for you but again ... see the thread and see the forum. 4. Lets agree to disagree. None of us will make the other see their point. 1. Ok. Lets assume the Forums Represent the Playerbase and have hated almost everything WG does for Years. So the Silent Majority does not exist. So now lemme Ask ya something. How is WG making so much Money and keeping Stable Playernumbers ? 2. Yep. Nothing Epic or such here. Its a Super Minor thing. 3. Yes lol. Its called RANDOM Battles. Guess what. Not everyone likes to do the same the whole Time. Many Players want Diversity. 4. Then dont Argue First lol. 32 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Is that YOU pretending to speak for Everyone.....? I didn't thing YOU would do such a thing..... Read the Room lol. If You cant see what I did there dont bother. 32 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Im probably just crap faced ...... it happens.... Huh You Are ? Well. If you say so :) 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #36 Posted February 17 4 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Arms race IS Epicenter but on steroids. So instead of just playing for an epicenter ytou make DDs suicide at start for buffs and then one team receives majority of all buffs and then its ends in Epicenter. So WG just took a game mode that everyone hates (Epicenter) and then changed it so it would follow the formula of that other thing everyone hates (games ended quickly) ..... and we have ARMS RACE ... sheiit show 2.0 In Epicentre I just went into the middle with a fat BB... slowly, but surely. Let's see them try get me dead, LMAO. Usually they had a hard time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites