[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #1 Posted February 14 Hi all, Changes to combat economy are in testing... "Changes to combat economy – Closed Testing 12.2" https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/419 Quote 14.02.2023 13:00 Changes to combat economy – Closed Testing 12.2 We’re providing an overview of planned changes to economic rewards related to performance in battle. The economic rewards granted for accumulating spotting damage have been increased to the same level as the rewards given for dealing direct damage with main armament types. This change takes away the weight of having to decide between increasing your own personal earnings or helping your team achieve better results by giving fairer rewards for the latter. You can evaluate the damage inflicted by your teammates using your spotting in the post-battle stats screen—a feature added in Update 12.0. To balance this adjustment and keep average earnings on a similar level, the rewards for dealing direct damage, spotting torpedoes as well as earning "Spotted" and "Defended" ribbons, have been reduced. Rewards for earning potential damage were reduced for battleships. Rewards for spotting ships and torpedoes are now equal for all ship types. The economic rewards granted for dealing damage with secondary armaments have also been increased to be on par with the rewards for dealing direct damage with main armament types. Thus, the average earnings of battleships whose gameplay is weighted towards using the secondary battery will increase to the same level as other battleships. The average XP and Credit earnings for some ship types and Tiers have been slightly changed. The goal of this change is to minimize the differences in average earnings of all ship types at the same Tier: previously the differences at high Tiers could be as high as 10%, but now they have been reduced to 2%. The most noticeable changes will occur to Tier V-VII battleships—they will receive up to 5% fewer Credits—as well as Tier V-IX destroyers, whose Credit and XP yields will increase by 1-3%, depending on the Tier. The profitability of supercarriers and super cruisers has also been reduced: they will now receive 8% less experience and 6% fewer Credits. I must say that I am puzzled by what will happen to CV / Hybrid spotting damage and proposed changes above... Also, I would guestimate that for most players this would result in reduced earnings... Leo "Apollo11" 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted February 14 Great another economy nerf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Sir_Grzegorz Beta Tester 798 posts 16,103 battles Report post #3 Posted February 14 Good. I just need to get my campaign mission done (I am using CV United States) and they can nerf it to the ground :D I do believe that silver earnings are to high and would not mind a 10% nerf to it in general. That being said it looks like a buff to subs or I have misinterpreted wording. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #4 Posted February 14 Just what the game needed, more encouragement to be passive and rewards for cruising around the map dealing next to 0 damage or mindlessly pressing W and letting the AI do the work for you, forget about positioning, good aim, target selection, defending/attacking the objective, nah just in the back spam HE or just roam around and spam your tottally not over the top 15 to 20km torpedoes. Game is cattering to casuals patch by patch. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #5 Posted February 14 It's good for DDs and CVs, bad for everybody else. Especially for BB mains. Oh and also subs will benefit from that even more..... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #6 Posted February 14 Great, Subs, hybrids and CV:s need ways to increase their earnings 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #7 Posted February 14 Sooo how many times has the economy been redesigned? 6 or 7 so far? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #8 Posted February 14 19 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Great another economy nerf Not for CVs or subs, for them it's a big buff. What a happy coincidence! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #9 Posted February 14 Hi all, 1 minute ago, KillStealBoss said: It's good for DDs and CVs, bad for everybody else. Especially for BB mains. Oh and also subs will benefit from that even more..... And Hybrids... let us not forget them as well... for example in "Airship Escort" game mode I regularly had around 100K Spotting damage with Delaware... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #10 Posted February 14 So when will WG introduce the plane-spotting-limited-to-minimap change? 1 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,302 battles Report post #11 Posted February 14 Quote The economic rewards granted for dealing damage with secondary armaments have also been increased to be on par with the rewards for dealing direct damage with main armament types. Thus, the average earnings of battleships whose gameplay is weighted towards using the secondary battery will increase to the same level as other battleships. hahaha what? do they not know that all secondary ships are damn OP considering the dmg they do?? So NOW I will earn even more with my Massa haha, well nice ty. Imagine the Schlifens now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, Miscommunication_dept said: Not for CVs or subs, for them it's a big buff. What a happy coincidence! Yeah guess you are right subs will earn even more and everybody else even less, we have to put the players into those things any way possible dont we WG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,302 battles Report post #13 Posted February 14 Quote This change takes away the weight of having to decide between increasing your own personal earnings or helping your team achieve better results by giving fairer rewards for the latter. I dont think they know what team play is in this game, they just randomly pop out some words and think they understand their own game which they dont even play it. hint> submarines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #14 Posted February 14 Who cares...most sits on 240.000.0000.0000000.00000 silver anyway. Economy in wows is joke, you can earn 1.000.000 net per game with ease in tx "premium", you can eran tx ships in 15 games p.s. if they touched XP gains that would be a issue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #15 Posted February 14 Just remove ingame credit earnings completely. You can buy credits in the premium shop, get them from containers, missions rewards etc. - why bother with complicated and erratical changes to the economy? 1 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #16 Posted February 14 27 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said: Just what the game needed, more encouragement to be passive and rewards for cruising around the map dealing next to 0 damage or mindlessly pressing W and letting the AI do the work for you, forget about positioning, good aim, target selection, defending/attacking the objective, nah just in the back spam HE or just roam around and spam your tottally not over the top 15 to 20km torpedoes. Game is cattering to casuals patch by patch. wait....how you would spot siting in back? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #17 Posted February 14 Hi all, 1 minute ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: Who cares...most sits on 240.000.0000.0000000.00000 silver anyway. Economy in wows is joke, you can earn 1.000.000 net per game with ease in tx "premium", you can eran tx ships in 15 games I don't think that this is about Credits only... I think it affects the BaseXP as well (since everything is interconnected)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #18 Posted February 14 Just now, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, I don't think that this is about Credits only... I think it affects the BaseXP as well (since everything is interconnected)... Leo "Apollo11" well that would change thigs abit, but as it is writen it looks like it is economy only 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #19 Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: Who cares...most sits on 240.000.0000.0000000.00000 silver anyway. Economy in wows is joke, you can earn 1.000.000 net per game with ease in tx "premium", you can eran tx ships in 15 games p.s. if they touched XP gains that would be a issue You won't have so much credits after 68 lines regrinded (only 2 times was by free exp) and having all T11s available. Those regrinds cost me 1.7 bln credits and the 12 T11s that's another 500+ mln credits off + 2 more superships coming next patch. I also bought back most of the ships from T5-10 for the snowflakes, missing only few that I really hated to play, which did cost me another 300-400 mln + equipment and modules (maybe another 200 mln). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #20 Posted February 14 14 minutes ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: well that would change thigs abit, but as it is writen it looks like it is economy only Economy is exp too. The bonuses that we get and equip are called economy bonuses. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #21 Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: You won't have so much credits after 68 lines regrinded (only 2 times was by free exp) and having all T11s available. Those regrinds cost me 1.7 bln credits and the 12 T11s that's another 500+ mln credits off + 2 more superships coming next patch. I also bought back most of the ships from T5-10 for the snowflakes, missing only few that I really hated to play, which did cost me another 300-400 mln + equipment and modules (maybe another 200 mln). and after all of this i bet syou still have millions, tens of millions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #22 Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: Economy is exp too. The bonuses that we get and equip are called economy bonuses. yeah...but but they calculate economy and EXP different.....the way it is writen here it clearly indicates it is about economy not EXP....but it is WG....we need to wait and see 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #23 Posted February 14 Just now, WingedHussar_Adler said: and after all of this i bet syou still have millions, tens of millions No. I only have 150 mln . 100 mln will go for Sekiryu and Ushakov (included the upgrades and despite the -15% T11 discount when buying them). And I'll spend another 16 mln for upgrades on Z-42 and Brisbane. So I'll be left with 34 mln. It's ok but that's not crazy amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,400 battles Report post #24 Posted February 14 I welcome secondary damage being revalued, not spotting damage: it's often completely accidental and it's still ancillary to...actual damage, which someone has to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #25 Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: No. I only have 150 mln . 100 mln will go for Sekiryu and Ushakov (included the upgrades and despite the -15% T11 discount when buying them). And I'll spend another 16 mln for upgrades on Z-42 and Brisbane. So I'll be left with 34 mln. It's ok but that's not crazy amount. but after that you will have ALL OF THEM :) did you play WOT? remember economy there? :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
