WG being transparent on early access tokens

[Yosha_AtaIante]

I just noticed by reading the patch notes for the upcoming patch that WG unlike most other games with similar monetization models actually tells the players how far they can get with the free to earn tokens straight upfront.

Most others don't tell you at all making it unclear how many steps can be completed for free without calculating it yourself. Yes they charge you a lot to have further steps towards t10 completed but that's alright I guess as that content will be available for free anyway. 

 

WG is one of the more transparent companies and thats really good.

just compare it to this 

 

 

I really like the direction WG is going therefore with their monetization as they seem to put most focus on early releases and the battlepass for 2.5k doubloons seems to still be their best deal. WG did not choose the path of "we give you just short of 5tokens to complete the next step, just purchase this 20€ package to complete it" and that'd appreciated 

[lovelacebeer]

I have to give them credit for giving us that information. It is very convenient when you can work out exactly what you will get. 

[WingedHussar_Adler]

dear god.....what is this...praize for WG.....wink twice if you are forced to typ praize for WG :)  :)

[Hugh_Ruka]

9 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

I just noticed by reading the patch notes for the upcoming patch that WG unlike most other games with similar monetization models actually tells the players how far they can get with the free to earn tokens straight upfront.

Most others don't tell you at all making it unclear how many steps can be completed for free without calculating it yourself. Yes they charge you a lot to have further steps towards t10 completed but that's alright I guess as that content will be available for free anyway. 

 

WG is one of the more transparent companies and thats really good.

just compare it to this 

 

 

I really like the direction WG is going therefore with their monetization as they seem to put most focus on early releases and the battlepass for 2.5k doubloons seems to still be their best deal. WG did not choose the path of "we give you just short of 5tokens to complete the next step, just purchase this 20€ package to complete it" and that'd appreciated 

Since they have a layer hidden behind missions usually, they are the same as the others. It is the same situation as the original PR dockyard. "You can get PR for free" was true, but hid the amount of grind one had to go through.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, WingedHussar_Adler said:

dear god.....what is this...praize for WG.....wink twice if you are forced to typ praize for WG :)  :)

I think its important to point out companies who don't try to emulate fully the predatory practices of other bigger companies. It's already becoming normal so might aswell praise the ones that don't go all the way 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

Since they have a layer hidden behind missions usually, they are the same as the others. It is the same situation as the original PR dockyard. "You can get PR for free" was true, but hid the amount of grind one had to go through.

No you are wrong. These missions are very easy to complete compared to PR so its not even comparable 

[_Kokushibo_]

[Aragathor]

That is true, after the changes to communication WG is open about what F2P players can get.

No more guessing games. Whales can roll the dice on RNG stuff.

 

Also, I find the lack of cheaters in the game refreshing. A lot of good dev decisions early on made the game safer. Too many online games are infested with cheaters and RMT stuff.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

48 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

I think its important to point out companies who don't try to emulate fully the predatory practices of other bigger companies. It's already becoming normal so might aswell praise the ones that don't go all the way 

apsolutly

[_neKeJlbHe_KpoJleH9l_]

1 hour ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

I just noticed by reading the patch notes for the upcoming patch that WG unlike most other games with similar monetization models actually tells the players how far they can get with the free to earn tokens straight upfront.

Most others don't tell you at all making it unclear how many steps can be completed for free without calculating it yourself. Yes they charge you a lot to have further steps towards t10 completed but that's alright I guess as that content will be available for free anyway. 

 

WG is one of the more transparent companies and thats really good.

just compare it to this 

 

 

I really like the direction WG is going therefore with their monetization as they seem to put most focus on early releases and the battlepass for 2.5k doubloons seems to still be their best deal. WG did not choose the path of "we give you just short of 5tokens to complete the next step, just purchase this 20€ package to complete it" and that'd appreciated 

You are use manipulation comparison of donations estimates.

 

I explaine in example: 

Someone (lat it be Tod)  has dog as pet. His friend Frank has bear as pet. In comparison pets of Tod and Frank - bear is huge against dog.

And we have Tony (friend of Tod and Frank). He also has pet - mice. In comparison to his friends pets - mice is smallest among all.

 

You choose what "pet" do you like.

[Nov_A]

5 minutes ago, _neKeJlbHe_KpoJleH9l_ said:

I explaine in example: 

Someone (lat it be Tod)  has dog as pet. His friend Frank has bear as pet. In comparison pets of Tod and Frank - bear is huge against dog.

And we have Tony (friend of Tod and Frank). He also has pet - mice. In comparison to his friends pets - mice is smallest among all.

I understood everything yet understood nothing.

[22cm]

2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

I just noticed by reading the patch notes for the upcoming patch that WG unlike most other games with similar monetization models actually tells the players how far they can get with the free to earn tokens straight upfront.

 

WG is one of the more transparent companies and thats really good.

just compare it to this 

 

 

 

 

Do you mean the upcoming patch, the one with the early acces for the first sub tech tree line, and the tokens for the same sub line?!

 

If so, I would not give half-a-fukc about it.

 

 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

WG is one of the more transparent companies and thats really good. 

The words you're looking for are "a little less bad" or "almost as scummy".

 

If you would, say, compare the worlds worst surgeons, you wouldn't claim one is "good" because he uses a clean scalpell, either.

[MementoMori_6030]

Still no job offer from WG? 

[_neKeJlbHe_KpoJleH9l_]

1 hour ago, Nov_A said:

I understood everything yet understood nothing.

Use coma (",") in sentence.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

54 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

The words you're looking for are "a little less bad" or "almost as scummy".

 

If you would, say, compare the worlds worst surgeons, you wouldn't claim one is "good" because he uses a clean scalpell, either.

If you had no choice which one to choose at some point anymore because all are by default bad as normalized there is a new standard for "good" emerging 

[Panocek]

3 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said:

dear god.....what is this...praize for WG.....wink twice if you are forced to typ praize for WG :)  :)

WG does things worth dumping steaming payload on, but their transparency is commendable.

 

Also game model/gameplay loop/grind are actually one of the easiest to stomach and you can plan around stinkers. Shitty playerbase is a given, in any multiplayer game so its not really WG fault there

 

20 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

If you had no choice which one to choose at some point anymore because all are by default bad as normalized there is a new standard for "good" emerging 

Or lesser evil would be the term. Which is something?

 

1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Still no job offer from WG? 

If/when local WG office posts hiring for what I'm familiar with, I might apply just for the kek of it. Unlikely they will beat current very cushy job I have, but I might have an answer to "are you familiar with Wargaming products"  its been 12 years...

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

4 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

If you had no choice which one to choose at some point anymore because all are by default bad as normalized there is a new standard for "good" emerging 

Hah, yes, surely. It's like slaves talking about their owner which one whips them least - The good master. He only whips you when you deserve it, say because you spilt his tea. Thank you Sir, for showing me the error of my ways!

 

 

You're mistaken in your assumption. They're addicted to my money, I'm not addicted to their content.

Just vote with your feet. Say, EA or Ubisoft, I personally made the decision that they can go themselves with a cactus for all I care, I just don't buy that , no matter the carrot they're dangling in front of my nose. I just don't and I am perfectly happy with that.

It's not even a money issue - it's my lack of stupidity that prevents me from getting screwed over sideways. And what will I do, when everyone tries these [edited] moves? Well, I wanted to take up sport shooting for quite a while now, maybe I'll do that?

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

51 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

Just vote with your feet.

I agree with you that these practices are shitty. But the game isn't to me. I enjoy the game. No one else is keeping this live service up and I would like to continue to enjoy this game. So there is no way around it. I have to take what they offer and since they are not like many other live services when it comes to predatory monetization I like to point out that I'm happy about this and therefore would like it to stay that way.

 

I habe no say in them changing this and no, I will not protest by not participating. Its my choice.

54 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

, I wanted to take up sport shooting for quite a while now, maybe I'll do that?

This is obviously your choice then and it's fine. Just because you will do sport shooting though won't change the fact that monetization is getting worse every year for live services because for every person like you 10 others swipe 💳 

[Yedwy]

6 hours ago, 22cm said:

If so, I would not give half-a-fukc about it.

Come now I am sure we ll be able to exchange those tokens for something usefoul like silver or flags or some flaming garbage (yes even that is more usefoul)... 

[lafeel]

It's not exactly high praise to compare them favorably with Activision-Blizzard, who recently took (from EA) the title of worst company in the world now is it?