[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,744 battles Report post #51 Posted February 13 My biggest problem with submarines is that with a not too uncommon composition of 2 subs, 3 DDs and 1 CV thats a full 50% of the team that "does not want to play the game". Return fire? You must be kidding... 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuddly_Spider Players 401 posts 4,953 battles Report post #52 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: if you die there are only 2 options: - you messed up - you got outplayed it is not a mistery What about option 3? - WG intentionally made the game so that I, [insert name here], would play it for for a few thousand games, then lose a game and hate it, so that they could [insert personal gripe here]. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 272 posts 5,823 battles Report post #53 Posted February 13 On 2/11/2023 at 10:31 PM, bouncer8409 said: So who else would like to see the Submarines inserted into the moron that thought they are a good addition to the game. Show of hands please ! when the patch hits, the battles will be [edited]unplayable 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #54 Posted February 14 21 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: if you die there are only 2 options: - you messed up - you got outplayed No. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #55 Posted February 14 2 hours ago, 22cm said: No. Da Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #56 Posted February 14 3 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: Da No. You may die because your teammates run away, or camp the backline, etc. If you only die when you messed up or get outplayed means that you are playing from the back line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #57 Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, 22cm said: No. You may die because your teammates run away, or camp the backline, etc. agree...but that is also some kind of "outplayed" but on team part...you did not thing wrong but died Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STRMO] ReverendFlashback Players 123 posts 4,005 battles Report post #58 Posted February 14 Doesn't really matter if you call it outplayed or messed up, I sink subs all the time. Most embarrassing kill was most likely yesterday, when I had the staggering ammount of 90hp left in Cossack and still managed to 100 to 0 a sub while my team was already decimated and the game lost. Subs ain't much trouble unless you're alone AND playing a bb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SD-7] ooh_err_missus Players 66 posts Report post #59 Posted February 14 52 minutes ago, ReverendFlashback said: Doesn't really matter if you call it outplayed or messed up, I sink subs all the time. Most embarrassing kill was most likely yesterday, when I had the staggering ammount of 90hp left in Cossack and still managed to 100 to 0 a sub while my team was already decimated and the game lost. Subs ain't much trouble unless you're alone AND playing a bb. Whilst I agree, for the correct DD (like pretty much any UK DD, I have and love most of them) subs are easy meat.. for things like Battleships they are desperately unfair.. the BB positions correctly etc, then gets hammered because a sub slips past your less stellar team mates and has a field day on the back row with little to no chance of being countered due to the skill-less homing torps limited damage control and nerfed to death anti-sub countermeasures, unless you have a competent DD player come to your rescue. That's not a good recipe for Randoms. DDs have to work hard to slip past the enemy DDs and cruisers.. subs do it by default. It's one of the reasons I've gone sub hunting in my cossack, it keeps my capital ships alive so can save/win games. One thing I'd like to see is, if a sub pings you, it should speed up the damage con cool down, each ping, knocking 10seconds off the cooldown. i.e. be sparing with the pings.. a sort of adrenaline rush effect. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,878 battles Report post #60 Posted February 17 On 2/11/2023 at 8:31 PM, bouncer8409 said: So who else would like to see the Submarines inserted into the moron that thought they are a good addition to the game. Show of hands please ! Topic is locked. Even though I can understand the frustration sometimes, try in a better language next time. And in one of the general submarine topics. I suggest the sticky one. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
