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WG: The "Brawl" rewarding was changed recently - but something is very very strange here... I don't think the BaseXP is calculated OK...

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Hi all,

 

WG: The "Brawl" rewarding was changed recently - but something is very very strange here... I don't think the BaseXP is calculated OK...

 

 

Have you experienced this this guys?

 

 

WG?

 

@Seraphice

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Damage done trough secondaries earns you much less base exp than the usual. A downside of letting the AI play for you.

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hello Leo!

As per the patchnotes of 12.0:
"Base earnings in Brawls now depend on the battle duration. Earnings will be lower in short battles; protracted battles will bring more XP and Credits compared with previous versions of Brawls in similar formats. The changes will affect all Brawl formats except 1 vs. 1."
So if your games are rather short, then you will indeed be earning less base xp per match now.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

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Hi all,

 

13 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

hello Leo!

As per the patchnotes of 12.0:
"Base earnings in Brawls now depend on the battle duration. Earnings will be lower in short battles; protracted battles will bring more XP and Credits compared with previous versions of Brawls in similar formats. The changes will affect all Brawl formats except 1 vs. 1."
So if your games are rather short, then you will indeed be earning less base xp per match now.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

Ahh... this explains it... but I never expected that it would have such big impact... :Smile_honoring:

 

My battles lasted:

  1. 11:06
  2. 16:33
  3. 11:03
  4. 12:05
  5. 7:49

 

@Seraphice

 

BTW, can you please elaborate if the 20 minutes are selected as benchmark for battle duration (or some other value is used)?

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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53 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Ahh... this explains it... but I never expected that it would have such big impact... :Smile_honoring:

 

My battles lasted:

  1. 11:06
  2. 16:33
  3. 11:03
  4. 12:05
  5. 7:49

 

@Seraphice

 

BTW, can you please elaborate if the 20 minutes are selected as benchmark for battle duration (or some other value is used)?

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

20 minutes cannot be the benchmark, beacuse then this part of the scoring rules change would not be possible:

 

protracted battles will bring more XP and Credits compared with previous versions of Brawls in similar formats

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1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

hello Leo!

As per the patchnotes of 12.0:
"Base earnings in Brawls now depend on the battle duration. Earnings will be lower in short battles; protracted battles will bring more XP and Credits compared with previous versions of Brawls in similar formats. The changes will affect all Brawl formats except 1 vs. 1."
So if your games are rather short, then you will indeed be earning less base xp per match now.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

That incentivizes some weird abuse and/or corner camping and its really [edited]stupid. Not to mention that its the exact type of behaviour brawls aren't supposed to incentivize. I.e. you want short matches where people fight it out and dont care much. If anything it should be the opposite. Like I dont criticize WG nearly as much as most people here but thats completely balls to the wall insanse nonsense. 

And for once Im not shitposting. 

I dont even play brawl much (would if it was tier 5-6), Im just sorry for those who do. 

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1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

hello Leo!

As per the patchnotes of 12.0:
"Base earnings in Brawls now depend on the battle duration. Earnings will be lower in short battles; protracted battles will bring more XP and Credits compared with previous versions of Brawls in similar formats. The changes will affect all Brawl formats except 1 vs. 1."
So if your games are rather short, then you will indeed be earning less base xp per match now.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

The change the name to something else. Brawls are supposed to be short and hectic ...

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Hi all,

 

22 hours ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

Brawls are supposed to be short and hectic ...

 

Yep... and now we have penalization for shorter battles... :Smile_hiding:

 

Lets hope that we get the info of what is the benchmark (i.e. nominal game length) and how much the shorter battles suffer by ending quicker... :Smile_honoring:

 

 

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On 2/11/2023 at 12:52 PM, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Yep... and now we have penalization for shorter battles... :Smile_hiding:

 

Lets hope that we get the info of what is the benchmark (i.e. nominal game length) and how much the shorter battles suffer by ending quicker... :Smile_honoring:

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Very simply speaking, brawl economics were rather luxurious in their time/reward ratio compared to other gamemodes like ranked, randoms and operations, which is why it was tuned down for shorter battles, and increased for longer battles.

 

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~Sera

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Hi all,

 

3 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

Very simply speaking, brawl economics were rather luxurious in their time/reward ratio compared to other gamemodes like ranked, randoms and operations, which is why it was tuned down for shorter battles, and increased for longer battles.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

Can you please tell us what is the expected time for brawl and percentages of economics decrease for shorter battles and increase for the longer battles?

 

:Smile_honoring:

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

Very simply speaking, brawl economics were rather luxurious in their time/reward ratio compared to other gamemodes like ranked, randoms and operations, which is why it was tuned down for shorter battles, and increased for longer battles.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

What brawl duration (in minutes) would produce the same gains as before the change, and what are the boni for max duration, and mali for the shortest duration?

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Hi all,

 

@Seraphice

 

Would it be possible to get some more info about this and what is the expected time for brawl and percentages of economics decrease for shorter battles and increase for the longer battles?

 

:Smile_honoring:

 

 

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Hey @Leo_Apollo11. Unfortunately I'm afraid that we can't share this information right now :(

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

 

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Hi all,

 

2 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

Hey @Leo_Apollo11. Unfortunately I'm afraid that we can't share this information right now :(

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

 

 

RGR! :Smile_honoring:

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