New day, new bizarre concept from WG (dev blog - new EU dd line)

[Captain_Breeze]

Looks kind of interesting. I will defo be trying them out. 9k radar on a dd....bring it on.

 

 

[Hugh_Ruka]

14 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

9 km dd radar is pretty nuts, even with the short duration. And given the short reload you can basically deny a cap entirely until you run out of radars.

This ...

 

You can get 13 seconds radar duration and 51 seconds reload. Basically any DD that survives and does not turn back is then prey for allied radar cruiser. If he tries to trade, you just kill him or both smoke and you traded better. If he runs and tries to come back, your radar is about ready to go again ...

 

And the DPM is good enough.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

If useless in randoms then their release is just fine. Wows isn't a comp game.

What are you talking about? For years now, WG tells us that it's "A thinking mans action game" that it's totally "esports ready". Best comp game of the decade, probably century … ah heck, of the millenium! 👍😂

[Ymustihaveaname]

13 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

You can get 13 seconds radar duration

My other thought is you get this for each DD if you play as a div then you can share and get two or three hits....?

[22cm]

2 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

That will make it quite hard to balance imo.

Talking about balance in a WG game.... You must be joking, comrade.

[Hugh_Ruka]

1 minute ago, Ymustihaveaname said:

My other thought is you get this for each DD if you play as a div then you can share and get two or three hits....?

just imagine a Gdansk/DM or Gdansk/Petro division ... I don't want to ...

[tocqueville8]

3 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

You have very long range radar for a DD (9 km) coupled with smoke... but it has pathetic 10 second base duration. But the reload duration is very short.

Great for resetting caps, I suppose.

[KhorneFlake]

58 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

9 km dd radar is pretty nuts, even with the short duration. And given the short reload you can basically deny a cap entirely until you run out of radars.

Yes exactly, thats what im saying.

 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

7 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

I know the new line is only in development.

 

I know these stats will change.

 

But seriously... wtf? These numbers make no sense. You have very long range radar for a DD (9 km) coupled with smoke... but it has pathetic 10 second base duration. But the reload duration is very short.

 

What is this supposed to be? What kind of gameplay are they trying to create?

 

It seems to me this is just a random assembly of gimmicks that is completely inconsistent with anything we have in the game right now (radar range of 9 km is out of whack with existing DD radar; radar duration of 10 seconds seem almost useless from gameplay point of view... smoke with radar is supposed to be pretty much a nono or at least something you pay very dearly for).

 

 

 

Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....Gimmicks .....

 

They have a spinning wheel at WG headquarters featuring DIFFERENT RADARS - SUBS - OP CVs - AIRSTRIKES - MINE FIELDS - DOLPHINS WITH BOMBS - CLUSTER BOMBS - FLYING CVs that they spin a couple of times for every new line. So if were unlucky we get a DD line with CVs on their backs with radar.

[Bellegar]

6 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

I looked at the Greek T9 DD and mistook it for a T3... how much do you have to twink the numbers to make that ancient design work at T9?

Did you mean to say that? 

 

 

That is one hilarious typo!!  

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 7 Minuten, Bellegar sagte:

Did you mean to say that?

Thanks. I meant tweak, of course. Twinks are secondary RPG characters.

[Verblonde]

What's the best surface detection you can get out of this thing; something like 7.7 km? DDs with cr4ppy sneakiness never really did it for me, so these'll just be another Coop line for me, I think, unless something changes drastically during testing...

[Redcap375]

Never put radar and smoke together and these clowns have done it again *slow clap*.

 

Then slap on a duration premium mod to extent that time to more than 10 secs.

 

just to reinforce that point...they have done it AGAIN.

[SeaWolf7]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lootboxer]

Now imagine spotting this Gdańsk in a open 7.6 km with your DD. Bum radar, then it starts bombing you with hard hitting fast French shells with around 3s reload on 6 barrels with modules and AR. You have to smoke/turn and run or it will rush you so you've shown side and lost up to 50% of HP, he's meanwhile disappeared in his smoke not taking damage unlike Smalland, Ragnar or YY still lighted up by you/your team would. 50s later this can happen again. Caps will be no go zones. I know how much even poorly played Smalland or Black has area control, this one is going to be similar level toxic. It's only 10-13s but those first 10-15seconds are usually when most of damage is done, later anyway you should be able to angle/run/hide anyway if you are good with DDs.

Imagine also how this thing will AP citadel in smoke CL at a 6-9km km. But WG knows that CLs are OP so it's OK I guess

Later when you've killed DDs still you can play it like Kaba or Modagor. It will need 21 pointer and and extended range to really shine but by now everyone has at least one.

I think that it will be OP in good hands and pain in to play against for DDs, even against potato players because of toxic combo of gimmics.

Maybe not much fan to play but definitely much less fun to play against.

[Shadowdancer__]

Před 15 hodinami ThePurpleSmurf řekl/a:

O čem to mluvíš? Již několik let nám WG říká, že je to „akční hra s přemýšlejícím mužem“, že je zcela „připravená na esporty“. Nejlepší compová hra desetiletí, pravděpodobně století... sakra, tisíciletí! 👍 😂

Sure, and WG have milions players to world.😂😂😂

[Panocek]

20 hours ago, KillStealBoss said:

Wanna see you play Grom and do well. With torps that have less range than Farragut torps and half of their dmg, 6.8km concealment, meh smoke and T5 level of gun range. Ok. 

Maybe against T5s. Try playing on T9 MM. Blyska itself is labeled as "bad". Grom os worse. Good luck. 

Except Grom have from get go 7km detection, compared to 7.6km on Błyskawica. Doesn't help much against tier 8+, but when kept to same tier, Grom concealment suddenly gets competitive while packing quite the guns.

 

20 hours ago, KillStealBoss said:

Well yeah. T8-10 are ok. Cause art least they got reload, so you can build full range to get 15km + flat shells . But T5-7 are crap. They don't even get flat shell arcs. Just free exp to T8. Eh, why even bother with this 🙄

Reminder, Jinan despite having the same guns as Sherman/Austin, doesn't get magic air drag, so "French 139/50 known for good ballistics" can suddenly develop severe case of parachute when put on "it could be assumed" ship, killing any and all 8km+ gunnery.

[Ronchabale]

It´s a mess and its getting worse

[fumtu]

20 hours ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

just imagine a Gdansk/DM or Gdansk/Petro division ... I don't want to ...

 

Imagine Gdansk + Kleber div. No DD could survive such engagement, 10(12)sec radar is enough to basically if not kill than to make that DD useless for the rest of the game. Initial stats on Gdansk are insane, whole concept of having radar on DD is bad. On something like YY it could work due its DPM, shell velocity, no smoke ..., on something like French DD it is just brutal. Lot of DDs can outtrade YY and it can not hide as no smoke if it is using radar, not many will be able to outtrade Gdansk. Just stop WG

[Bellegar]

17 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Thanks. I meant tweak, of course. Twinks are secondary RPG characters.

Well depending on the type of game you play (the more... euhm... adult type of game), they can also be fairly main NPCs giving great... satisfaction... 

[coolrunings_99]

After a quite some time I am kinda looking forward to Split, a lot, mostly cause I am from country which sailed the said ship historically..actually after many game additions that I couldnt care less about, this one I ll take with the spoon it came with🤟😎